Car blocking the Luas and giving the owner time to move it!

Del2005

So the Red line was suspended because some moron decided to park on the footpath and track at Jervis. The Gardai were called and decided to give the driver time to move it! The car should be dragged from the area, can't lift due to the wires, and then lifted and any damage done tough and a huge fine.

Thousands of people impacted because this country is too soft on this stuff.


http://www.thejournal.ie/luas-suspended-jervis-4040904-May2018/

ShadyAcres

What kind of idiot parks their car on the Luas line? The mind boggles.

Wheety

Who said he/she was getting away with it? They were hoping the driver would return as that's the quickest and easiest way of moving the car.

Having said that, if I was the Guard, I would have asked some of the shops if they had a forklift capable of moving it.

TheQuietFella

She was apparently shopping in M&S!
Where else was she to leave it? She was only going to be a few hours!
But they couldn't have asked her to move it then, could they?
The cheek of 'em!

brianomc

I would hope that the time they were giving the driver to move it was only the length of time it took the tow-truck to arrive. Feckin eejit

bk

There should be one of these kept permanently in the city center:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOVn_-9-3u4

flazio

bk wrote: »

There should be one of these kept permanently in the city center:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOVn_-9-3u4

Too high for the Luas line unfortunately.

Yourmama

Wheety wrote:

Having said that, if I was the Guard, I would have asked some of the shops if they had a forklift capable of moving it.

And get yourself in trouble over compo payout for car damage.

lisasimpson

There should be a special hefty fine for gob****es who park on the luas line

bk

flazio wrote: »

Too high for the Luas line unfortunately.

Is it? Doesn't look that high to me, remember our Luas lines are high enough for a double decker bus to pass under.

Yourmama wrote: »

And get yourself in trouble over compo payout for car damage.

No different then any other tow truck. In fact from what I've read about these beasts, they actually cause less damage then the traditional kind, it is one of their selling points.

cruizer101

In instances like this car should be towed and if owner can't prove it was an emergency let it be auctioned off along with other cars which are seized by CAB.

bk

bk wrote: »

There should be one of these kept permanently in the city center:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOVn_-9-3u4

Or one of these:


http://www.mwctoys.com/images2/review_hted209_1.jpg

OldMrBrennan83

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TallGlass

DCC have a 4x4 truck that could have removed it, looks like this...



Where we DCC council?

Any car like that should be moved right away and impounded down the back arse of Donegal to make sure they never do it again.

Markcheese

Yourmama wrote: »

And get yourself in trouble over compo payout for car damage.

Only if the legislation allows it, if the legislation to allow removal of badly parked vehicles says its at owners risk then tough..., a winch and a side lift would remove most things...

vg88

When I lived in prague this was great to see, no clamps just towed straight away to the police cark park with a hefty fine.

Del2005

Wheety wrote: »

Who said he/she was getting away with it? They were hoping the driver would return as that's the quickest and easiest way of moving the car.

Having said that, if I was the Guard, I would have asked some of the shops if they had a forklift capable of moving it.

Getting away with blocking public transport and the fine will be negligible compared to disruption caused.

The quickest and easiest way to have moved it was a rope through the towing eye and drag the fecking thing out of the way, any claim for damage should be laughed at. Even a group of people could have moved it clear of the tracks with zero damage.

SPDUB

Just a thought .

Could the Luas sue the driver for disruption to their business .

I presume such disruption could easily be in 4 figures

CrankyHaus

Del2005 wrote: »

The quickest and easiest way to have moved it was a rope through the towing eye and drag the fecking thing out of the way, any claim for damage should be laughed at. Even a group of people could have moved it clear of the tracks with zero damage.

Yeah the car could be moved in seconds with relative ease. If you need manpower you have a Luas load ready to go. It really annoys me that we have a culture in this country of prioritising the interests of the person causing the disruption over the many being delayed.

Atlantic Dawn

SPDUB wrote: »

Just a thought .

Could the Luas sue the driver for disruption to their business .

I presume such disruption could easily be in 4 figures

They should be able to sue for loss of earnings and delays, €50k an hour or part thereof should be minimum for such an episode.

punisher5112

TallGlass wrote: »

DCC have a 4x4 truck that could have removed it, looks like this...



Where we DCC council?

Any car like that should be moved right away and impounded down the back arse of Donegal to make sure they never do it again.

This is widely used in the USA and very easy to use.

markpb

You're all looking for solutions that are very complicated. California Highway Patrol have long mastered the art of clearing disabled vehicles from roads. All of their patrol vehicles are fitted with bull bars so they just shove offending vehicles clear of the road. No ropes, no picking up, no towing, no elegance, just brute force.

Youtube

yabadabado

Car should be towed asap, no way should the cops decide to give the driver some time to come back.
The second it's reported a tow truck shoukd be sent.

Anyone who does that deserves a massive fine .

Chris_5339762

Somewhat surprised it wasn't clamped.

RobbingBandit

SPDUB wrote: »

Just a thought .

Could the Luas sue the driver for disruption to their business .

I presume such disruption could easily be in 4 figures

Thereby creating a new legal phenomenon The Luas Chaser, barristers will hence forth rush from the four courts after every LUAS hoping a stupid motorist is blocking access.

Stephen15

moloner4 wrote: »

When I lived in prague this was great to see, no clamps just towed straight away to the police cark park with a hefty fine.

Yes we need these in Dublin. Saw one in Italy where the car was blocking a bus from getting through on a narrow. Truck with hiab showed up quickly and had the car gone in under 90 seconds. Alternatively a few people could have bounced the car onto the pavement.

HeidiHeidi

moloner4 wrote: »

When I lived in prague this was great to see, no clamps just towed straight away to the police cark park with a hefty fine.

We used to have those in Dublin in the 90's!

_Puma_

Take a look at Galway city councils treatment of public transport this weekend.

https://www.reddit.com/r/bicycling/comments/8mjgtt/galway_city_council_blocked_a_cycle_lane_with_a/?utm_source=reddit-android

Spanish Eyes

Must have been an off duty cop's car :P

Zebra3

Del2005 wrote: »

So the Red line was suspended because some moron decided to park on the footpath and track at Jervis. The Gardai were called and decided to give the driver time to move it! The car should be dragged from the area, can't lift due to the wires, and then lifted and any damage done tough and a huge fine.

Thousands of people impacted because this country is too soft on this stuff.


http://www.thejournal.ie/luas-suspended-jervis-4040904-May2018/

Hundred of millions of euro in taxpayers’ hard earned money poured into PT and brought to a halt over one selfish idiot and nobody in authority seemingly having any knowledge or right to fix the issue.

Absolute shambles.

Teyla Emmagan

That's just hard to believe.

What sort of selfish thick are you!?!

Stephen15

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

We used to have those in Dublin in the 90's!

How come they were gotten rid of?

vicwatson

Assume the gardai gave them minimum a ticket when the idiot arrived back?

HeidiHeidi

Stephen15 wrote: »

How come they were gotten rid of?

No idea, but I'd guess that towing/clamping - which were run then by the Garda Traffic Corps - just got swept up in the rush to privatise everything.


The current clamping contractors have those monster-truck pick-up tow wagons which I see trundling around town all the time, yet I have literally never seen a car on the back of one. What do they do all day?

HeidiHeidi

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

We used to have those in Dublin in the 90's!

Was just going to say that, and they were operated by Gardai themselves.

Atlantic Dawn

The driver should have asked his passengers to move it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVY8uAncsc

TallGlass

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

No idea, but I'd guess that towing/clamping - which were run then by the Garda Traffic Corps - just got swept up in the rush to privatise everything.


The current clamping contractors have those monster-truck pick-up tow wagons which I see trundling around town all the time, yet I have literally never seen a car on the back of one. What do they do all day?

Was thinking the same myself, most of the clamped cars I see are just clamped for not paying for parking or over staying parking in a parking spot.

For me it the attitude of the driver really, it's a serious fúck anyone else and everyone else I will do what I want.

And to think I have to share the road with such a fúcking moron and I can bet ya, that's the type of clown that does 80 in the outside lane on the M50 then shoots off across four lanes and over the chevrons cause they are paying no attention to which exit they are going off at.

And I also hope that the Gardaí actually checked they have a licence to drive and all was in order with that car, usually that type of driving uncovers other problems with regards insurance, tax, NCT.

iamwhoiam

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

That's just hard to believe.

What sort of selfish thick are you!?!

Daughter got delayed on the Luas because of this thick and nearly missed an appointment

Stephen15

Other cities have muncipal police forces which deal with urban traffic offences such as illegal parking, directing traffic when lights are out, illegal usage of bus lane as well as the more minor crimes such as littering, dogs off leashes and that kind of thing issuing fines etc. They are employed by the council and are paid less than mainstream police officers. I think Dublin could do with these as a Garda backup.

punisher5112

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Somewhat surprised it wasn't clamped.

Park in a bust stop on the likes of rathmines or Eden Quay and one won't even get a ticket...

endacl

markpb wrote: »

You're all looking for solutions that are very complicated. California Highway Patrol have long mastered the art of clearing disabled vehicles from roads. All of their patrol vehicles are fitted with bull bars so they just shove offending vehicles clear of the road. No ropes, no picking up, no towing, no elegance, just brute force.

Youtube

The Dodge Charger Pursuit has a 3.6 litre V6 engine. Those bull bars wouldn't be much use sellotaped to the front of an auld Mondeo...

fritzelly

Stephen15 wrote: »

Other cities have muncipal police forces which deal with urban traffic offences such as illegal parking, directing traffic when lights are out, illegal usage of bus lane as well as the more minor crimes such as littering, dogs off leashes and that kind of thing issuing fines etc. They are employed by the council and are paid less than mainstream police officers. I think Dublin could do with these as a Garda backup.

The Gardai would be complaining their jobs are being taken away from them, remember the backlash with community gardai

Pelvis

Car should have been taken away and thrown into a crusher.

endacl

fritzelly wrote: »

The Gardai would be complaining they're jobs are being taken away from them, remember the backlash with community gardai

No. Community policing is a role within the service. It wasn't outsourced.

yabadabado

Stephen15 wrote: »

Other cities have muncipal police forces which deal with urban traffic offences such as illegal parking, directing traffic when lights are out, illegal usage of bus lane as well as the more minor crimes such as littering, dogs off leashes and that kind of thing issuing fines etc. They are employed by the council and are paid less than mainstream police officers. I think Dublin could do with these as a Garda backup.

Our cops could do all that type of work but don't. Dublin city centre is a free for all when it comes to traffic. Walk around the city centre any day of the week and thwre will be plenty of drivers acting the bollix but you rarely see a cop doing anything about it.

n!ghtmancometh

Driving in, blocking and parking in a bus lane (experience all 3 every morning & evening commute) is just as inconsiderate but is ignored by the authorities, media and general public. It's the tacit acceptance of that behaviour that leads motorists to believe that they can do whatever they like with impunity at the expense of us plebs who use public transport, because 9 times out of 10 they generally can. Even in this instance, lady in expensive car blocks a tram line and car wasn't even towed.

sexmag

TallGlass wrote: »

Was thinking the same myself, most of the clamped cars I see are just clamped for not paying for parking or over staying parking in a parking spot.

For me it the attitude of the driver really, it's a serious fúck anyone else and everyone else I will do what I want.

And to think I have to share the road with such a fúcking moron and I can bet ya, that's the type of clown that does 80 in the outside lane on the M50 then shoots off across four lanes and over the chevrons cause they are paying no attention to which exit they are going off at.

And I also hope that the Gardaí actually checked they have a licence to drive and all was in order with that car, usually that type of driving uncovers other problems with regards insurance, tax, NCT.

I was there and I recognised the car, it actually belongs to a judge. Won't name the court or district but there you go, make of that what you will and what punishment will be bestowed upon them

yabadabado

sexmag wrote: »

I was there and I recognised the car, it actually belongs to a judge. Won't name the court or district but there you go, make of that what you will and what punishment will be bestowed upon them

FFS not a thing will happen so.

OldMrBrennan83

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bk

Stephen15 wrote: »

Other cities have muncipal police forces which deal with urban traffic offences such as illegal parking, directing traffic when lights are out, illegal usage of bus lane as well as the more minor crimes such as littering, dogs off leashes and that kind of thing issuing fines etc. They are employed by the council and are paid less than mainstream police officers. I think Dublin could do with these as a Garda backup.

We have a very serious problem here in Ireland with having just the Gardai being our only "policing" force and not having other policing forces with focus in different areas.

Traffic wardens could be turned into a more municipal type police force, with responsibility to not only hand out parking tickets *, but to also direct traffic, have cars towed, enforce bus lanes, etc.

Two weeks ago I was in Killarney and there most have been a dozen Gardai there just directing traffic! Now it was because the citizenship ceremony was on, but what a waste of resources, surely just some folks in yellow tops could have done the same.

Transport Policing is another example of this, get rid of the useless ticket checkers and security guys and replace them with transport police service who can both check tickets and do security and policing.

* One issue is that our cities make so much money from parking tickets, that is all they are focused on. If they were out directing traffic or having an individual car towed, then they aren't making as much as they could just ticketing cars.

Also that throws up the issue on the city not wanting to give up street parking they earn money off of to buses and why they don't want to eliminate cars completely from the city, parking revenue.

The whole thing is a mess.

Mrs OBumble

The Luas is bigger than any poxy car. Why not just nudge it out of the way?