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Mutant z

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Mutant z wrote: »

The religion of peace again would it ever just **** off back to the desert and leave European civilisation alone.

That's not how it works.

The "religion of peace" exists to conquer.
And it's doing quite a good job of it.

Well it needs to be pushed right back before it manages to succeed in conquering the whole of Europe.

A Pint of Goo

Another wonderful day of Peace in the multi cultural paradise of western Europe.

On a more positive note the Hungarians have voted to criminalise those who help illegal migrants enter the country. It must be nice to live in a country where the politicians actually put the rights of the natives ahead of third world migrants and Muslim terrorists.

Nermal

wexie wrote: »

I appreciate you can't just keep people in prison beyond their original sentence just because you don't think he's going to be a good boy...

Yes you can, you just need the societal will to do it. We could end this problem in weeks by interring all Islamist extremists, whether they have committed violence or not. We are just too apathetic and weak to do what is necessary.

Dohnjoe

A Pint of Goo wrote: »

It must be nice to live in a country where the politicians actually put the rights of the natives ahead of third world migrants and Muslim terrorists.

In Hungary, out of a population of 10 million, only a few thousand are Muslim. Last census was something like every 1 in 2,000 Hungarians are Muslim. They've never had an Islamic related attack. No prizes for guessing what the majority of that population think is one of their most significant issues. Irrational thinking on a national scale. Absolutely goldmine for populists, nationalists and authoritarian autocrats

Dohnjoe

Nermal wrote: »

Yes you can, you just need the societal will to do it. We could end this problem in weeks by interring all Islamist extremists, whether they have committed violence or not. We are just too apathetic and weak to do what is necessary.

Do you think we should identify them somehow, perhaps a small crescent on an armband or something. Just so ordinary peaceful members of the public could distinguish them (for our own safety)

thebull85

Dohnjoe wrote: »

In Hungary, out of a population of 10 million, only a few thousand are Muslim. Last census was something like every 1 in 2,000 Hungarians are Muslim. They've never had an Islamic related attack. No prizes for guessing what the majority of that population think is one of their most significant issues. Irrational thinking on a national scale. Absolutely goldmine for populists, nationalists and authoritarian autocrats

Are you aware of the history between Hungary and islam? I think not.

Dohnjoe

thebull85 wrote: »

Are you aware of the history between Hungary and islam? I think not.

Ohhh right, history from hundreds of years ago, go on..

thebull85

Dohnjoe wrote: »

In Hungary, out of a population of 10 million, only a few thousand are Muslim. Last census was something like every 1 in 2,000 Hungarians are Muslim. They've never had an Islamic related attack. No prizes for guessing what the majority of that population think is one of their most significant issues. Irrational thinking on a national scale. Absolutely goldmine for populists, nationalists and authoritarian autocrats

Dreadful post. No islamic related attacks? Nah just a few invasions over the years no harm done eh?

Hungary are well placed for dealing the problem of islam, they've got hundreds and hundreds of years of experience.

But apparently its all populism, nationalism etc..

thebull85

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Ohhh right, history from hundreds of years ago, go on..

You havent a clue what you're talking about stop making a show of yourself.

gw80

Dohnjoe wrote: »

In Hungary, out of a population of 10 million, only a few thousand are Muslim. Last census was something like every 1 in 2,000 Hungarians are Muslim. They've never had an Islamic related attack. No prizes for guessing what the majority of that population think is one of their most significant issues. Irrational thinking on a national scale. Absolutely goldmine for populists, nationalists and authoritarian autocrats

Im morto for you.

Dohnjoe

thebull85 wrote: »

Dreadful post. No islamic related attacks? Nah just a few invasions over the years no harm done eh?

"Over the years" yeah?

Just curious, how recent a timeframe are we talking here

thebull85

Dohnjoe wrote: »

"Over the years" yeah?

Just curious, how recent a timeframe are we talking here

Anyone that had any sort of clue about Hungary would not post that tripe that you spouted a few posts back. Go educate yourself and come back to us.

wexie

Dohnjoe wrote: »

"Over the years" yeah?

Just curious, how recent a timeframe are we talking here

early 18th century I believe

Scars have only just healed like

Dohnjoe

thebull85 wrote: »

Anyone that had any sort of clue about Hungary would not post that tripe that you spouted a few posts back. Go educate yourself and come back to us.

I am sure you can manage to respond without the browbeating and insults

Which portion or period of Hungary's history are you referring to? from mid 1500's to late 1600's?

Dohnjoe

wexie wrote: »

early 18th century I believe

Scars have only just healed like

I know I'm just getting over my fear of Nordic people after those recent Viking invasions

Can't trust em

Captain Obvious

A Pint of Goo wrote: »

Another wonderful day of Peace in the multi cultural paradise of western Europe.

On a more positive note the Hungarians have voted to criminalise those who help illegal migrants enter the country. It must be nice to live in a country where the politicians actually put the rights of the natives ahead of third world migrants and Muslim terrorists.

Do you not live here?


http://www.thejournal.ie/aer-lingus-laundering-3598009-Sep2017/

He had been charged earlier with unlawfully facilitating the entry of two non-nationals into the State on 9 January and 22 January last.

thebull85

Dohnjoe wrote: »

I am sure you can manage to respond without the browbeating and insults

Which portion or period of Hungary's history are you referring to? from mid 1500's to late 1600's?

Dont mean to insult, but you would be one of the first to jump on an ill informed post.. Hungary has a long history with islam and yes going back 100s of years. But it is relevant and could go some way to explaining the fear of islam in Hungary. Its not just nationalism.

weisses

thebull85 wrote: »

Dont mean to insult, but you would be one of the first to jump on an ill informed post.. Hungary has a long history with islam and yes going back 100s of years. But it is relevant and could go some way to explaining the fear of islam in Hungary. Its not just nationalism.

And the fear of Roma .... frightened people those Hungarians

I think its safe to say today`s Hungary suffers more from the old Russian influence then Islam ...

american ninja warrior

Dohnjoe wrote: »

In Hungary, out of a population of 10 million, only a few thousand are Muslim. Last census was something like every 1 in 2,000 Hungarians are Muslim. They've never had an Islamic related attack.

Hungary might just be on to something don't ya think?

Dohnjoe

thebull85 wrote: »

Dont mean to insult, but you would be one of the first to jump on an ill informed post.. Hungary has a long history with islam and yes going back 100s of years. But it is relevant and could go some way to explaining the fear of islam in Hungary. Its not just nationalism.

Because they vividly remember the Ottoman wars and high taxation from mid-1500's to late 1600's.

What a pressing issue. They earn on average next to nothing for a European country and the corruption is staggering, but hey the hysteria about Muslims is a fantastic distraction

Dohnjoe

american ninja warrior wrote: »

Hungary might just be on to something don't ya think?

Yeah I have a rock that keeps bears away.. do you see any bears?

Think I'm on to something here

american ninja warrior

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Yeah I have a rock that keeps bears away.. do you see any bears?

Think I'm on to something here

could the number of muslims in a population have any correlation with the number of terrorist attacks, just a idea, anyone have a opinion?

thebull85

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Because they vividly remember the Ottoman wars and high taxation from mid-1500's to late 1600's.

What a pressing issue. They earn on average next to nothing for a European country and the corruption is staggering, but hey the hysteria about Muslims is a fantastic distraction

I believe 650 euro per month is the average salary, but then the cost of living is significantly lower than most other European countries, there are more people living in poverty in Ireland than in Hungary per capita.

Joe prim

Nermal wrote: »

Yes you can, you just need the societal will to do it. We could end this problem in weeks by interring all Islamist extremists, whether they have committed violence or not. We are just too apathetic and weak to do what is necessary.

Bit harsh, n'est pas? And plots in Glasnevin ain't cheap.

Nermal

Dohnjoe wrote: »

They earn on average next to nothing for a European country

A society is about more than money.

Joe prim wrote: »

Bit harsh, n'est pas? And plots in Glasnevin ain't cheap.

Freudian slip?

american ninja warrior

thebull85 wrote: »

I believe 650 euro per month is the average salary, but then the cost of living is significantly lower than most other European countries, there are more people living in poverty in Ireland than in Hungary per capita.

its about 50c for a 500ml beer outsize of tourist traps, gives some perspective on cost of living

old_aussie

cfuserkildare wrote: »

Yet another shooting in Belgium,

2 police dead, 2 bystanders dead!

Will they never learn that Integration Does Not Work???

When they have a mosque on every corner, you know like a pub on every corner, that's when they will learn!

Then it will be too late for the infidel.

Dohnjoe

thebull85 wrote: »

I believe 650 euro per month is the average salary, but then the cost of living is significantly lower than most other European countries, there are more people living in poverty in Ireland than in Hungary per capita.

Unfortunately, I know what life is like in Hungary. Work 10 years to get a decent position in a government job? make around 700 euros a month. An iphone still costs the same there as it does here. Food isn't that much cheaper. Rent anywhere near Budapest is shocking. They don't have much immigration for obvious reasons.

thebull85

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Unfortunately, I know what life is like in Hungary. Work 10 years to get a decent position in a government job? make around 700 euros a month. An iphone still costs the same there as it does here. Food isn't that much cheaper. Rent anywhere near Budapest is shocking. They don't have much immigration for obvious reasons.

So what are you saying now that you lived there ??

american ninja warrior

Dohnjoe wrote: »

. Rent anywhere near Budapest is shocking.

no different from Dublin then
except our social welfare is given out willy nilly to any "refugee" that turns up

fly_agaric

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44289404

"Police sources quoted in local media said the man was heard shouting "Allahu Akbar" ("God is greatest" in Arabic)."

Of course it is "Ramadan" isn't it.
At least the holy month of prayer, fasting, celebration (and ultra-violence in the name of the Prophet!) will be over in a few weeks.

Dohnjoe

american ninja warrior wrote: »

no different from Dublin then

Yeah, if you're comparing Dublin from the eighties with modern day Hungary then you'd be a little closer. Take a 5x hit in salary and you're getting only half off the milk - do the maths from there

That's of course if you can buy milk in Hungary what with all the Muslims everywhere and suicide bombings :pac:

emo72

It's all ****ed up. ****ed up man. No way for people to live. With that threat hanging over you. But maybe you have a better chance of dying from a peanut allergy.

Snake Plisken

They should take the Muslims who radicalised this scumbag and lock them in solitary confinement for 10 years! Same for any other Muslim prison gangs

weisses

Snake Plisken wrote: »

They should take the Muslims who radicalised this scumbag and lock them in solitary confinement for 10 years! Same for any other Muslim prison gangs

FYP ... Or is it only Muslim gangs you are opposing ?

wexie

weisses wrote: »

FYP ... Or is it only Muslim gangs you are opposing ?

Only Muslims, christian white supremacists are A okay

:rolleyes:

jmayo

wexie wrote: »

Only Muslims, christian white supremacists are A okay

:rolleyes:

They are not ok but at least the fookers are not radicalising people to go slaughter others who are not of the same beliefs.

BTW remember how the Cahrlie Hebdo attacker, Chf Kouachi, was radicalised in prison ?

Jeeze how long is since the Charlie Hebdo attacks?
Remember all the candles, the vigils and who could forget the march through Paris being led by politicians vowing this would be stopped.

Now how many attacks have there been since and how many more victims have there been, in France and outside France?

But of course to the usual downplayers of these atrocities a bit of whataboutery is always useful.
And when someone talks about radicalisation in prison one muppet asks if he was radicalised by vegans and another one trumps up what about far right christian white supremacists. :rolleyes:

Anything but face facts of where the huge issue really lies,.

Snake Plisken

wexie wrote: »

Only Muslims, christian white supremacists are A okay

:rolleyes:

Lol wexir and Weiss are back same poster I would say!

wexie

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Lol wexir and Weiss are back same poster I would say!

yeah that's exactly it, you genius you, ya worked it out.

Snake Plisken

Some of you deniers would want to watch this well researched video by Sargon
These killings prove it’s the Muslim gangs who are radicalising prisoners and run a lot of the prisons in the U.K. and Europe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD-BRJdnUsM

Captain Obvious

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Some of you deniers would want to watch this well researched video by Sargon
These killings prove it’s the Muslim gangs who are radicalising prisoners and run a lot of the prisons in the U.K. and Europe

Deniers of what, exactly?

wexie

Captain Obvious wrote: »

Deniers of what, exactly?

I've been trying to figure that out for a while.

I doubt a clear and concise answer will be forthcoming though

Snake Plisken

Captain Obvious wrote: »

Deniers of what, exactly?

Wexie and Weiss trying to deflect away from there being a Muslim gang issue in prisons across Europe and using the usual deflect to other religions excuse, well it wasn’t a white Christian gang that radicalised this scum bag who murdered 4 innocent people in Belgium! It seems to be all fun and games for Wexie!

wexie

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Wexie and Weiss trying to deflect away from there being a Muslim gang issue in prisons across Europe and using the usual deflect to other religions excuse, well it wasn’t a white Christian gang that radicalised this scum bag who murdered 4 innocent people in Belgium! It seems to be all fun and games for Wexie!

Not at all, and I'd love for you to show me where I've said anything of the sort.

As a matter of fact I think there's a 'gang' issue in prisons in general.

Difference between you and me is that I don't just single out the muslims but happily condemn them along with whatever gangs there might be. Like the far right ones...

I think most of us here know why that is though don't we?

thebull85

A fourth person has been found dead in Liege.

Snake Plisken

wexie wrote: »

Not at all, and I'd love for you to show me where I've said anything of the sort.

As a matter of fact I think there's a 'gang' issue in prisons in general.

Difference between you and me is that I don't just single out the muslims but happily condemn them along with whatever gangs there might be. Like the far right ones...

I think most of us here know why that is though don't we?

No spell it out go on I dare you!
I provided you with a well documented video above outlining credible reports of radicalising of not only ordinary Muslims but also high profile non-Muslim killers! Btw that video was published before the murders in Belgium by a day or two!

Ronaldinho

wexie wrote: »

Not at all, and I'd love for you to show me where I've said anything of the sort.

Difference between you and me is that I don't just single out the muslims....

I think most of us here know why that is though don't we?

Because this is a thread about a crime perpetrated by a Muslim??

enricoh

american ninja warrior wrote: »

could the number of muslims in a population have any correlation with the number of terrorist attacks, just a idea, anyone have a opinion?

Do u honestly expect a response from the usual suspects on here?! Rather naive, now let's talk about the klu klux clan instead!

thebull85

american ninja warrior wrote: »

could the number of muslims in a population have any correlation with the number of terrorist attacks, just a idea, anyone have a opinion?

Anyone???

weisses

Ronaldinho wrote: »

Because this is a thread about a crime perpetrated by a Muslim??

I think it's questionable he was a real Muslim to begin with