Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2018

The Mig

Big congrats to Jerome Sinclair on his way to Sunderland on a season long loan. Grass isn't always greener!

yourdeadwright

Anyone see on ESPN they claim we will make one more major signing ?

BullBlackNova

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Anyone see on ESPN they claim we will make one more major signing ?

Who is the 'they' in this instance?

Anyone I normally go to for updated news on our transfer business - Pearce, the Echo, Joyce - have all said we're done barring any late injuries.

Just curious to know where the alternative suggestions are coming from!!

54and56

citytillidie wrote: »

Anyone watch the game? Seeing google news on phone Man City fans moaning about Liverpool playing dirty

yourdeadwright

BullBlackNova wrote: »

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Anyone see on ESPN they claim we will make one more major signing ?

Who is the 'they' in this instance?

Anyone I normally go to for updated news on our transfer business - Pearce, the Echo, Joyce - have all said we're done barring any late injuries.

Just curious to know where the alternative suggestions are coming from!!

ESPN

BullBlackNova

yourdeadwright wrote: »

ESPN

Ah, yes, the famed reporter ESPN. :rolleyes:

Was it someone who normally has details about the club or someone new entirely?

ESPN wouldn't be the most reliable source of sports news but they do, often, have reporters on from other sources who are good with detail.

murpho999

yourdeadwright wrote: »

ESPN

Totally unreliable and probably linking to the persistent Vida rumours that have already been dismissed.

Boom_Bap

Joe Hart and Loris Karius on the same pitch, it should have been Clanger-a-palooza this morning!

Blackhorse Slim

Umaro wrote: »

1st team additions since Klopp joined:

With everyone fit and available this is pretty much our best 11- just swap Bobby F in for Shaqiri. Shows how much work Klopp has had to do, and how he's been backed.

8-10

Blackhorse Slim wrote: »

this is pretty much our best 11- just swap Bobby F in for Shaqiri

And Lovren and Henderson instead of Matip and Ox

Blackhorse Slim

Lovren maybe, but I'd take Ox over Hendo

Nerdlingr

Fabinho got burned for pace for one of their chances...havent seen anything of him really but is he that slow all the time?

ShamoBuc

Nerdlingr wrote: »

Fabinho got burned for pace for one of their chances...havent seen anything of him really but is he that slow all the time?

He got caught out really and couldn't catch up, bit similar to city's goal and Virgil.

MD1990

Nerdlingr wrote: »

Fabinho got burned for pace for one of their chances...havent seen anything of him really but is he that slow all the time?

Wouldn't pay too much detail too it in pre season.

Players are playing with very heavy legs. Training on days of games as well. I doubt City's preseason is as tough.

gstack166

MD1990 wrote: »

Wouldn't pay too much detail too it in pre season.

Players are playing with very heavy legs. Training on days of games as well. I doubt City's preseason is as tough.

May I ask what has planted the seeds of doubt in your mind to come to that.

yourdeadwright

gstack166 wrote: »

MD1990 wrote: »

Wouldn't pay too much detail too it in pre season.

Players are playing with very heavy legs. Training on days of games as well. I doubt City's preseason is as tough.

May I ask what has planted the seeds of doubt in your mind to come to that.

Well to be fair Jurgen has said they have been training hard on the mornings of matches something they only do at the start of pre-season,
I'd also imagine Fab has been putting in huge amounts of work on the training ground to get used to how Jurgen wants the midfield to work , as he is one of the new guys
No idea how City have gone about there pre-season

dogbert27

Blackhorse Slim wrote: »

Lovren maybe, but I'd take Ox over Hendo

From last season Ox had 5 goals and 7 assists compared to Hendersons 1 goal and 1 assist.

With Fabinho signed to play a DM role it would be interesting to see Henderson pushed forward this season and see what his return is.

Dickerty

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Well to be fair Jurgen has said they have been training hard on the mornings of matches something they only do at the start of pre-season,
I'd also imagine Fab has been putting in huge amounts of work on the training ground to get used to how Jurgen wants the midfield to work , as he is one of the new guys
No idea how City have gone about there pre-season

Agreed, we are known for working very hard in the first weeks. It's not about winning games, it's about putting in the hours now to carry you through the season. Neither Fabinho or VVD are about pace, and they would be working on tired muscles. The trick is to learn as a pair so that through ball doesn't happen...

Ste-

citytillidie wrote: »

Not on free sports according to their listing on there website

Not seeing it listed till Saturday at 8PM.

gstack166

Dickerty wrote: »

Agreed, we are known for working very hard in the first weeks. It's not about winning games, it's about putting in the hours now to carry you through the season. Neither Fabinho or VVD are about pace, and they would be working on tired muscles. The trick is to learn as a pair so that through ball doesn't happen...

No one is insinuating otherwise m, I’m just keen to know how someone would doubt City’s isn’t as hard is all. Neither here nor there I agree, just find it strange someone would say it is all.

TitianGerm

Blackhorse Slim wrote: »

With everyone fit and available this is pretty much our best 11- just swap Bobby F in for Shaqiri. Shows how much work Klopp has had to do, and how he's been backed.

Lovern and Henderson will be starters if we don't make any more signings along with Fun Bobby.

TitianGerm

dogbert27 wrote: »

From last season Ox had 5 goals and 7 assists compared to Hendersons 1 goal and 1 assist.

With Fabinho signed to play a DM role it would be interesting to see Henderson pushed forward this season and see what his return is.

Henderson played much deeper and very rarely got close to the box. His best perfances for us have been higher yup the field.

Boom_Bap

TitianGerm wrote: »

Henderson played much deeper and very rarely got close to the box. His best perfances for us have been higher yup the field.

Henderson improved at his nicking the ball off people in his deeper role towards the end of last season. If he's doing that higher up the pitch it means that there is less work for Fabinho

dogbert27

TitianGerm wrote: »

dogbert27 wrote: »

From last season Ox had 5 goals and 7 assists compared to Hendersons 1 goal and 1 assist.

With Fabinho signed to play a DM role it would be interesting to see Henderson pushed forward this season and see what his return is.

Henderson played much deeper and very rarely got close to the box. His best perfances for us have been higher yup the field.

Yep his last season in an advanced role was 14/15 when he scored 6 and had 9 assists. That's why I said it would be interesting to see what his return woild be if he moves forward this season.

Widdensushi

Dortmund asking price for pulisic 60million,sounds good to me

Agent Coulson

€70m is a lot cheaper than I would have expected after BVB sold Dembele to Barca for €105m I was expecting them to be looking for similar since the transfer market is now crazy.

TitianGerm

Widdensushi wrote: »

Dortmund asking price for pulisic 60million,sounds good to me

Jesus I'd be paying that no problem at all.

He'd be super backup and would be much less fall off in quality if Mane or Salah were out.

ricero

We should be all over that price if true

Riesen_Meal

ricero wrote: »

We should be all over that price if true

Surely with him being a United fan that scuppers our chances?

Would still love to see him at the club tbh

Dickerty

Fieldog wrote: »

Surely with him being a United fan that scuppers our chances?

If he's a professional, and he looks at which team he'd prefer to play for, it's a no-brainer for an attacking player looking to improve...

rgace

Nerdlingr wrote: »

Fabinho got burned for pace for one of their chances...havent seen anything of him really but is he that slow all the time?

Was it the same winger that burned Robertson in the first half and could have had a penalty? He looks like a flyer to be fair.

TitianGerm

Widdensushi wrote: »

Dortmund asking price for pulisic 60million,sounds good to me

Where did you see this? I can't see it on Reddit or anything.

Agent Coulson

It's in the Echo quoting his father saying a price of €70m is what BVB would be looking for.

Dickerty

Agent Coulson wrote: »

It's in the Echo quoting his father saying a price of €70m is what BVB would be looking for.

Interesting considering his father manages him, with a UK-based agency...

rob316

Be rude and stupid not to bid at that price.

Love to see us even do a Keita on it, buy now and loan back for the year.

Riesen_Meal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbiY0Sk1G0g

Mini documentary about him I saw a while ago and thought was decent...

Harry Palmr

murpho999 wrote: »

The hate is unreal. Why do some rival supporters just hate all rival teams and think everything that they do from signings, play and management is just rubbish.

Are Liverpool that hated though?

They call Liverpool fans delusional based on nothing.

On Blue Moon it all goes back to 2013/14 when Liverpool 'won the league' if judged by media reaction according to them - they feel really burned about how in their minds the media was all over a mad swashbuckling Liverpool side and the last gasp implosion rather than lauding City to the heavens. Added to that is the simple fact that only one team really knows how to beat them and then the CL games when they are convinced it was all a conspiracy to get Liverpool to the final at their expense. It would be wrong to judge all Manc Blues by the standards of a hothouse forum but they do have a whiff of 'rich kid' about them.

gstack166

Harry Palmr wrote: »

On Blue Moon it all goes back to 2013/14 when Liverpool 'won the league' if judged by media reaction according to them - they feel really burned about how in their minds the media was all over a mad swashbuckling Liverpool side and the last gasp implosion rather than lauding City to the heavens. Added to that is the simple fact that only one team really knows how to beat them and then the CL games when they are convinced it was all a conspiracy to get Liverpool to the final at their expense. It would be wrong to judge all Manc Blues by the standards of a hothouse forum but they do have a whiff of 'rich kid' about them.

Absolute utter nonsense. It’s obvious the majority of the media were rooting for Liverpool that year, the 20 odd year wait for the title, the Hillsborough anniversary, City haven’t won it 2 years previous, most media being top heavy with Liverpool ex players. There was no problem there all things taken into account. It was more so of the cockiness that year the constant social media posts of fans singing ‘we’re going to win the league’ which there isn’t anything wrong with by the way but you can’t make them clips etc & not have it thrown back at you if you fail to deliver on it.

The thing that really got on the fans nerves was the respect shown at Anfield for the Hillsborough Anniversary, the banners, the total silence & then the cheering of Liverpool fans of Yaya Toure being taken off injured & the attack of City fans’ buses after it.

As for Liverpool knowing how to beat them, yes they’ve beaten them & beaten them well in the last few years but don’t forget City have fished out beatings to Liverpool too & pipped them to 2 trophies in the last 3 years, I’m sure they’d gladly take losing to Liverpool every year if they won the league by a record margin.

The vandalism of the bus this year didn’t help things either but that’s only a small faction as you say! No one thinks of a ‘conspiracy’ in the CL this year, might feel a little bit hard done by in regards the offside goal at Anfield & the 2 good goals in either leg given wrongly for offside but know thinks Liverpool over the 2 legs weren’t the better team.

This ‘rich kid’ mentality on the club fans, do you actually know any City fans? They are the exact same as Liverpool fans in the mound that they are all working class fans, many of whom are waiting to wake up from the dream that’s happening last 10 odd years & a faction of the fan base who gladly admit although great it is now dining at the top table, they preferred the ‘typical City’ of the 70’s 80’ & 90’s.

It’s all in good spirits for the most part, what’s football without rivalry’s & for The 12 months it looks like it’ll get stronger! Let’s just have the craic & embrace it! Best of luck for the season!

gimli2112

yeah I don't think City hated us until last year when we dumped them out of Europe and embarrassed them at Anfield. (oh and Salah came from nowhere to rob POTY from De Bruyne) I always quite liked them but then again I used to be able to say that about Chelsea, until 2005.

gstack166

gimli2112 wrote: »

yeah I don't think City hated us until last year when we dumped them out of Europe and embarrassed them at Anfield. (oh and Salah came from nowhere to rob POTY from De Bruyne) I always quite liked them but then again I used to be able to say that about Chelsea, until 2005.

It’s this attitude why City fans have grown a dislike for you.

If getting beat 3-0 at Anfield is an ‘embarrassment’ then surely it’s an absolute obliteration Liverpool suffered at the Etihad last September in a 5-0 defeat, or do you forget about that?

Salah came out of know where to rob POTY? He consistently scored week after week & played brilliantly all year, hardly was off the bridal 6 furlongs like home like you’re suggesting.

I think the fans of the club are right to be a little bit bemused rightly or wrongly to ask the question how a man made a team go from 4th the year previous to 4th again with a 1 point total less get POTY ahead of a man who was the catalyst in a record breaking team.

There’s no right or wrong answer to that question, it’s opinions, I personally think Salah has every right to it as much as KDB. The outrage if the shoe was on the other foot & Salah came second would be totally different.

liam7831

gimli2112 wrote:

yeah I don't think City hated us until last year when we dumped them out of Europe and embarrassed them at Anfield. (oh and Salah came from nowhere to rob POTY from De Bruyne) I always quite liked them but then again I used to be able to say that about Chelsea, until 2005.

Doubt city fans will be bothered until ye actually win a trophy

GBX

Clyne given permission to head home for personal reasons.
https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/tour-2018/309175-nathaniel-clyne-liverpool-fc-tour

Agent Coulson

Gomez to right back and Ragnar to CB.

yourdeadwright

GBX wrote: »

Clyne given permission to head home for personal reasons.
https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/tour-2018/309175-nathaniel-clyne-liverpool-fc-tour

Wonder what that's about, Is it a move , Did he recently have a baby ?

robwen

Most fans of all clubs are hypocrites & cringy af on social media

yourdeadwright

robwen wrote: »

Most fans of all clubs are hypocrites & cringy af on social media

Most people on social Media are kids aren't they ?

dogbert27

gstack166 wrote: »

It’s this attitude why City fans have grown a dislike for you.

If getting beat 3-0 at Anfield is an ‘embarrassment’ then surely it’s an absolute obliteration Liverpool suffered at the Etihad last September in a 5-0 defeat, or do you forget about that?

Salah came out of know where to rob POTY? He consistently scored week after week & played brilliantly all year, hardly was off the bridal 6 furlongs like home like you’re suggesting.

I think the fans of the club are right to be a little bit bemused rightly or wrongly to ask the question how a man made a team go from 4th the year previous to 4th again with a 1 point total less get POTY ahead of a man who was the catalyst in a record breaking team.

There’s no right or wrong answer to that question, it’s opinions, I personally think Salah has every right to it as much as KDB. The outrage if the shoe was on the other foot & Salah came second would be totally different.

5starpool

liam7831 wrote: »

Doubt city fans will be bothered until ye actually win a trophy

That's us told then.

Thanks for the contribution.

BorneTobyWilde

Chelsea at 14-1 for league, if they keep their squad together and with their new signings they will go close. They did not try so hard last time under Conte, he had lost them.
Liverpool at 9-2 2f , seems everyone expects us to do it, even the bookies.

brevity

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Wonder what that's about, Is it a move , Did he recently have a baby ?

https://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/comments/91wnl2/clynes_baby_has_been_born_hes_called_nathaniel/