Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2018

charolais0153

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Perfect comparator in this case.

Sturridge had injuries all over his bodies. Thighs,ankles,calf,hip
Torres had a bad knee,the perfect comparator?

Harry Palmr

charolais0153 wrote: »

Sturridge had injuries all over his bodies. Thighs,ankles,calf,hip
Torres had a bad knee,the perfect comparator?

I mean and I'm sure you know this, that Sturridge has been an expensive, irrelevant player for Liverpool for three seasons. Be crazy to spend 50m on someone who could be equally pointless after one tackle.

Potential Underachiever

Gutted by the Fekir news, looks like we really Liverpooled this transfer up.

Noticeable that it's gone from brilliant signing by the club to fair play to them for not signing a crock.

It will be negligence if a similar player is not signed.

Ardent

I wouldn't rule out gamesmanship here between the two clubs. No-one knows what has transpired here but I'm hoping it's just a disagreement over the fee. Hoping he will still be a Liverpool player before the end of the transfer window.

Damien360

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Gutted by the Fekir news, looks like we really Liverpooled this transfer up.

Noticeable that it's gone from brilliant signing by the club to fair play to them for not signing a crock.

It will be negligence if a similar player is not signed.

It would be a damn site worse if we signed a player with injury concerns that left him out for months like Sturidge. Paying the biggest wages and getting nothing in return.

noodler

Damien360 wrote: »

It would be a damn site worse if we signed a player with injury concerns that left him out for months like Sturidge. Paying the biggest wages and getting nothing in return.

Aye not 100% clear yet the club was at fault.

OwaynOTT

I'd have much rather signed him and keep the tradition of signing crocks. Studge, aquaman and Fekir.

charolais0153

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I mean and I'm sure you know this, that Sturridge has been an expensive, irrelevant player for Liverpool for three seasons. Be crazy to spend 50m on someone who could be equally pointless after one tackle.

But how does one tackle and fekir busting his knee compare to sturridges multitude of injuries from different parts of his body.

charolais0153

Dybala would be a more expensive version of fekir perhaps.

Turtyturd

charolais0153 wrote: »

But how does one tackle and fekir busting his knee compare to sturridges multitude of injuries from different parts of his body.

You’re just being obtuse now. Sturridge is a crock, spending that much on someone who could also end up a crock isn’t a wise move.

Turtyturd

charolais0153 wrote: »

Dybala would be a more expensive version of fekir perhaps.

Is he not PSG bound?

HandsomeBob

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Noticeable that it's gone from brilliant signing by the club to fair play to them for not signing a crock.

No one is calling Fekir a crock. People are disappointed yet realise the club is being cautious for the right reasons. Nothing wrong with that.

Maybe City can afford such a gamble, Liverpool can't.

Turtyturd

HandsomeBob wrote: »

No one is calling Fekir a crock. People are disappointed yet realise the club is being cautious for the right reasons. Nothing wrong with that.

Strange alright. It didn’t even happen...never mind being noticeable.

At least Lanzini is currently a crock.

Ardent

By all accounts he passed his medical. Don't clubs take out insurance policies on new players with (or without) worrying conditions?

Trigger

Turtyturd wrote: »

Is he not PSG bound?

He was supposed to be staying at Juve, but now Algeri is staying on, it might spur him to move, haven’t seen anything credible linking him to PSG though

Drag00n79

Potential Underachiever wrote:

Noticeable that it's gone from brilliant signing by the club to fair play to them for not signing a crock.

Noticeable because something untoward must have come up in the medical. If the medical staff has doubts, that's good enough for me.

Potential Underachiever

Maybe the club is penny pinching, trying to skim a few million off the price. That Ricero lad might be right all along. At least it looked like we tried to sign him though. That's all speculation before I get cliqued.

5starpool

Thread is a mess. Again.

Agent Coulson

Disappointing Que Sera Sera onto the next target.


Hopefully Alisson doesn't break a fingernail.

Nobody said he is a crock. Amazing how stuff is just made up.

The club didn't take a risk by the looks of it on a massive investment as a medical showed up something. Surely that's a good catch.

Irishmale0399

Reporters in Germany picking up on Maddocks (Mirror) twitter comments of the last few minutes........Fekir still wants the deal, medical was passed and Liverpool wanted to talk about the price as some issues came up. All 3 parties will sit down again after the WC....

https://twitter.com/maddockmirror?lang=de

Lyon most likely making the comments to push the price and to protect themselves as they are a listed company and have to follow stock market rules. Furthermore they seem to want to stick the money into accounts a for the next financial year which would be in 2-3 weeks for them.


Sky Sports Germany also saying Klopp will stick with Karius next year...

5starpool

5starpool wrote: »

Thread is a mess. Again.

Yep, no surprise

Iused2likebusts

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Sky Sports Germany also saying Klopp will stick with Karius next year...[/quote]

This better not be true

Potential Underachiever

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

Reporters in Germany picking up on Maddocks (Mirror) twitter comments of the last few minutes........Fekir still wants the deal, medical was passed and Liverpool wanted to talk about the price as some issues came up. All 3 parties will sit down again after the WC....

https://twitter.com/maddockmirror?lang=de

Lyon most likely making the comments to push the price and to protect themselves as they are a listed company and have to follow stock market rules. Furthermore they seem to want to stick the money into accounts a for the next financial year which would be in 2-3 weeks for them.


Sky Sports Germany also saying Klopp will stick with Karius next year...

Typical on both counts!


Karius will be no.1 next season almost certainly.

Turtyturd

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

Reporters in Germany picking up on Maddocks (Mirror) twitter comments of the last few minutes........Fekir still wants the deal, medical was passed and Liverpool wanted to talk about the price as some issues came up. All 3 parties will sit down again after the WC....

Lyon most likely making the comments to push the price and to protect themselves as they are a listed company and have to follow stock market rules. Furthermore they seem to want to stick the money into accounts a for the next financial year which would be in 2-3 weeks for them.

Rory Smith giving a different version. after the medical Liverpool withdrew from negotiations and then Lyon came back looking to change the terms.

.red.

FSG out!
If the medical team have doubts then at that price I'd agree with them
All speculation at this point tho

Vicxas

Sad about Fekir. But obviously something scared them beyond doubt

Ardent

Ardent wrote: »

By all accounts he passed his medical. Don't clubs take out insurance policies on new players with (or without) worrying conditions?

Is sturridge insured?

Irishmale0399

Turtyturd wrote: »

Rory Smith giving a different version. after the medical Liverpool withdrew from negotiations and then Lyon came back looking to change the terms.

According to a top figure within the French camp the medical was passed....and the French FA expected the deal to go through.


Seems Lyon are playing games.....but at the end of the day none of us have an idea of what is going on.

.red.

Augeo wrote: »

Is sturridge insured?

Every footballer is, not sure how it works tho.
I'd imagine an 18 year old with 12 points on his license would be easier to insure on a Ferrari than getting Sturridge covered on a football pitch.

Agent Coulson

Turtyturd wrote: »

Rory Smith giving a different version. after the medical Liverpool withdrew from negotiations and then Lyon came back looking to change the terms.

Probably the best Journo out there in terms of general football love reading his stuff and always great to listen to on 5Live or pods.

Harry Palmr

Maybe Lyon are hoping some other club will become interested and boost their assets valuation.

Agent Coulson

Gotze!

Turtyturd

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

According to a top figure within the French camp the medical was passed....and the French FA expected the deal to go through.


Seems Lyon are playing games.....but at the end of the day none of us have an idea of what is going on.

Definitely a lot of games and guesswork going on all around. Unofficial mouthpiece Pearce was reporting it as all good yesterday which would contradict what Smith is saying.

.red.

.red. wrote: »

Every footballer is, not sure how it works tho.
I'd imagine an 18 year old with 12 points on his license would be easier to insure on a Ferrari than getting Sturridge covered on a football pitch.

Well, he was bought for peanuts. At the time FSG offered him his current contract I doubt insuring him would have been overly problematic.

Irishmale0399

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Fotze!

Changed that for you.......leo.org should help you find out what it means...:D:D


Wouldnt touch him with a barge pole. Past it...made a mistake leaving Klopp and going to Munich. Pep finally killed him by not playing him and then he was diagnosed with myopathy. Any time I watched him this year he looked 2-3 meters of the pace and is still convinced he is up there with Messi.

Harry Palmr

Some chatter on anti-social media about The Alpine Messi being announced very shortly.

Blondie919

Augeo wrote: »

Is sturridge insured?

I read that as "Is Sturridge injured?" When is he not?

Irishmale0399

On the player insurance side of things....my understanding of the matter is:

Clubs insure against the loss of investment. Means should the players get an injury that end his/her career, die before the end of his/her contract etc. the club get a fixed sum.

Players would also have premium private health insurance or the club would have a deal in place with a hospital/private clinic where a large fixed fee is paid anually and the players have flat rate treatment. In some cases clubs finance the clinics themselves.

As for paying a player when injured:

They get their basic pay....which in Liverpools case is very low as the majority of pay is bonus related.

ricero

Great to be back after a long ban since the champos final.

Delighted with Fabinho but this Fekir news has left a bad taste in the mouth.

Will wait for more clarification before i comment on it.

Hallowed

ricero wrote: »

Great to be back after a long ban since the champos final.

Delighted with Fabinho but this Fekir news has left a bad taste in the mouth.

Will wait for more clarification before i comment on it.

Can't wait. Should be depressing enough.

charolais0153

Turtyturd wrote: »

You’re just being obtuse now. Sturridge is a crock, spending that much on someone who could also end up a crock isn’t a wise move.

Obtuse? I asked "why are you so obsessed with Sturridge?"
You use any oppurtunity you get to insult him.
I understand that buying fekir is a risk and we should look for alternatives.

J Mysterio

Sign Reus.

mightyreds

J Mysterio wrote: »

Sign Reus.

I agree great back up to have when robertson is out

J Mysterio

I think the club is probably going about its business quietly in a clever and targeted way. The way Fabinho was signed was fantastic, no leaks and - boom - done... Lean.

So the club is more than capable of being professional and speedy in their negotiations.

They also learned a lesson from the Van Dijk saga to avoid going public with their interest and to also keep a tight ship RE: leaks.

They are canny in their work too, with Keita as a good example. This was a player in demand and a club who didnt want to sell. They found a solution and now we have a super, dynamic player.

I think there will be more signings. The speculation is good craic for me, but I dont tend to get too excited when someone is linked and I dont get too upset when a deal is reported dead. There's a lot of speculation. It's fun to think of who we could add though. Signings so far are fantastic, and the window is young yet.

My priorities would be:

1. Pacey WF for rotation with Mane/ Salah. 2. Experienced GK who is vocal and commanding. 3. CB to pair with Van Dijk. 4. CF

martyos121

Nice to be back (not really, worst fans in the world etc.). So what’s the craic with Fekir?

gimli2112

ricero wrote: »

Great to be back after a long ban since the champos final.

Delighted with Fabinho but this Fekir news has left a bad taste in the mouth.

Will wait for more clarification before i comment on it.

Place hasn't been the same without you. FSG went crazy since you've been away spending millions on Fekirs and Fabhinos.

Is the Fekir thing on or off atm?

Widdensushi

ricero wrote: »

Great to be back after a long ban since the champos final.

Delighted with Fabinho but this Fekir news has left a bad taste in the mouth.

Will wait for more clarification before i comment on it.

what were you out for?

gimli2112

just on insurance, it will cover a fortuitous event. there are uninsurable risks and risks too expensive to insure. Someone like Sturridge would fall into one of these categories.
Pity about Fekir if he's failed the Liverpool medical. Happened before with the guy with the dodgy heart, which turned out to be the right decision for the club

Agent Coulson

This will be seen by some as a dig at Sturridge but it isn't.


Since Sturridge signed his 5 year contract of £150k a week just finished year 4 he has played a grand total of 4624 minutes of football for Liverpool that is a total of 51.3 games in 4 seasons.

£150k x 52 x 4 = £31.2m. = nearly £600k a game.

£31m for 51 games a club like Liverpool just can't afford to have players like that.


Add in Lallana who has been out injured for long spells on top wages it's understandable that club is having second thoughts when a medical shows up something.


Injuries happen and players get injured however paying £60m and out laying another £40m over the course of a 5 year contract on wages when you see there is an issue with a medical but still sign the player that's a huge gamble to take on any asset.