Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2018

Dickerty

brevity wrote: »

December & January will be tough imo.

Very much so, rotation and squad fitness will be key...7 games in 32 days, including Everton, United, Arsenal and City. At least the first 3 of those 4 are at home!

Dec
1 – Everton (H)
4 – Burnley (A)
8 – Bournemouth (A)
15 – Manchester United (H)
22 – Wolverhampton Wanderers (A)
26 – Newcastle United (H)
29 - Arsenal (H)

Jan
1 – Manchester City (A)

gimli2112

I see they kept the top 6 away from each other on opening day as usual.
Poor old Arsenal

murpho999

BeepBeep67 wrote: »

7 matches in December when pitches are arguably in poor condition is nuts

I really think those days are gone. They're all like carpets nowadays. Especially when compared to years ago.

That said, there are too many games in December and it really should be changed.

Harry Palmr

BeepBeep67 wrote: »

7 matches in December when pitches are arguably in poor condition is nuts

When was there last a side that played on a ploughed field? The worst than could happen is a club gets in Allardyce during sacking season he grows the grass and refuses to water it!

tinpib

murpho999 wrote: »

I really think those days are gone. They're all like carpets nowadays. Especially when compared to years ago.

That said, there are too many games in December and it really should be changed.

Not really. Champs League/Europa League finishes early December, no international break. Games have to be played some time.

What do you suggest? Extend the season until June, start earlier in August, leave midweeks off/weekends off in December?

murpho999

tinpib wrote: »

Not really. Champs League/Europa League finishes early December, no international break. Games have to be played some time.

What do you suggest? Extend the season until June, start earlier in August, leave midweeks off/weekends off in December?

Revamp the League cup and have teams European teams enter even later.
Reduce semi final to one leg as well.

Maybe have European teams have bye into FA Cup 4th round. Would be controversial.

Why can't league also finish a week later?

Other countries manage this and don't play during Christmas so they should be able to do something.

passremarkable

Looking at flights,Am I better off waiting until tx fixtures announced ?

5starpool

passremarkable wrote: »

Looking at flights,Am I better off waiting until tx fixtures announced ?

Unless you want to go for entire weekends either way, then yes. It'll be early July before the first couple of months tv fixtures are announced.

tinpib

murpho999 wrote: »

Revamp the League cup and have teams European teams enter even later.
Reduce semi final to one leg as well.

Maybe have European teams have bye into FA Cup 4th round. Would be controversial.

Why can't league also finish a week later?

Other countries manage this and don't play during Christmas so they should be able to do something.

I see what you are getting at, but I think what that means is more of a winter break in January rather than in December.

The 'festive' fixtures are a very popular part of English culture, so that won't change, and I don't think it should change, but yes a break in January makes a lot of sense.

murpho999

tinpib wrote: »

I see what you are getting at, but I think what that means is more of a winter break in January rather than in December.

The 'festive' fixtures are a very popular part of English culture, so that won't change, and I don't think it should change, but yes a break in January makes a lot of sense.

I definitely think one Christmas game can be moved. Didn't Liverpool have to play 2 games in 48 hours last year which is crazy.

As for culture that can always be changed. Nothing lasts forever.

ERG89

Harry Palmr wrote:

No group of death type runs, that makes a change.

Arsenal & City in the space of 3 days over Christmas is tricky. Also likely to be the first team to visit Spurs new stadium according to the Guardian.

passremarkable

5starpool wrote: »

Unless you want to go for entire weekends either way, then yes. It'll be early July before the first couple of months tv fixtures are announced.

Yea think your right
Il hang on for the minute

Luckycharms_74

Nice desktop fixture list

LuckyLloyd

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

Nice desktop fixture list

First three fixtures represent a good opportunity to start well and get some points on the board from the off. Hard to say much beyond that tbh.

Utopia Parkway

Chance to make a good start given the fixtures. Tough games spread fairly evenly through the season. Some difficult games around Christmas/New Year's with Arsenal quickly followed by Man City but not much travel over that period. And I believe we have a home game after all the CL dates. Have to be happy enough with all that.

Knex*

I don't think I've ever been less hyped about a World Cup. Is there any buzz about it at all?

Kolido

Those 3 away games in Sept won't be easy, picking up results in the first 3 games could be important

5starpool

Kolido wrote: »

Those 3 away games in Sept won't be easy, picking up results in the first 3 games could be important

We could be out of it if we don't beat West Ham on the first day!

5starpool

We have home games after all 6 of our CL group games, although they include games vs Man City, Everton and Man Utd. 2 of those in the CL too obviously, so not too bad.

jones

Why aren't we being linked with Martial I think he's a cracking player although would he fit in with klopps style

Dickerty

jones wrote: »

Why aren't we being linked with Martial I think he's a cracking player although would he fit in with klopps style

Because he's in contract and they'd never sell to us.

I'm more worried as to why Can to Juve is not official, any chance he'd go to a Prem rival?

Daemonic

His contract expires at the end of the month so presume contractually they can't parade him in Juve colours until then.

Dickerty

Dickerty wrote: »

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I'm more worried as to why Can to Juve is not official, any chance he'd go to a Prem rival?

I'm presuming at least one of Keita and Fabinho will be on upgrade on him. Not overly bothered if he goes to a PL rival tbh.

I'd wish him well even if it was Utd in the context of more than a few LFC fans hankering after Martial on a free

HandsomeBob

5starpool wrote: »

We could be out of it if we don't beat West Ham on the first day!

Your post was tongue and cheek I know but we do need to develop a winning mentality and treat every game as must win.

Hiccups are inevitable but it's the team that proves the above most consistently which will win the title come May.

Not a lot wrong in looking at the fixtures in August and expecting a very good return as a solid foundation for the awkward September.

5starpool

HandsomeBob wrote: »

Your post was tongue and cheek I know but we do need to develop a winning mentality and treat every game as must win.

Hiccups are inevitable but it's the team that proves the above most consistently which will win the title come May.

Not a lot wrong in looking at the fixtures in August and expecting a very good return as a solid foundation for the awkward September.

Ah I know, but if get less than 6 points from those first 3 games there will definitely be some who seriously practically think we're doomed.

fyfe79

Salah will play tomorrow against Uruguay - too soon?

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/mohamed-salah-injury-egypt-boss-121800381.html

gimli2112

fyfe79 wrote: »

Salah will play tomorrow against Uruguay - too soon?

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/mohamed-salah-injury-egypt-boss-121800381.html

No issue for me but if he dislocates his shoulder and doesn't come off I'll write an angry post.

jasonb

What was Salah's injury in the end? At first I heard dislocated shoulder, but then I heard he'd done his AC joint?

MD1990

Godin & Gimenez will probably try a few shoulder barges if they can get near Salah.

Dickerty

jasonb wrote: »

What was Salah's injury in the end? At first I heard dislocated shoulder, but then I heard he'd done his AC joint?

Definitely not a dislocation, maybe felt like it though! Given it's not leg related, they were always likely to play him. Like Linekar playing with the cast!

Knex*

https://twitter.com/sistoney67/status/1007171167990542339

davyboy1975

Knex. wrote: »

https://twitter.com/sistoney67/status/1007171167990542339

We also have a home game after everyone so no big deal

Bandana boy

5starpool wrote: »

Ah I know, but if get less than 6 points from those first 3 games there will definitely be some who seriously practically think we're doomed.

Less than 6 from those first three would be a disastrous start !

Dickerty

And half of those CL games are at home, so 3 out of 6 we will come back after an away game and they can sleep in their own beds for 5/6 nights in a row. And it's not like a trip to London is a big challenge.

5starpool

Bandana boy wrote: »

Less than 6 from those first three would be a disastrous start !

It wouldn't be great, but people (including me at times admittedly) get too carried away with declarations of doom.

Riesen_Meal

There was mutterings of Can to City a while ago, nothing about it since mind...

Sofa Spud

Fieldog wrote: »

There was mutterings of Can to City a while ago, nothing about it since mind...

Last I heard/read was that he's due a physical with Juve this week...

Gbear

I don't think Can is good enough that I'd particularly mind if he went to a rival.

gimli2112

Gbear wrote: »

I don't think Can is good enough that I'd particularly mind if he went to a rival.

that's what Chelsea fans thought about Salah, be careful what you wish for

Mr.H

I dont think i have worried about can leaving for a single moment. Above average player with loads of prospect. But is often frustrating and makes silly mistakes at times. No loss

martyos121

gimli2112 wrote: »

that's what Chelsea fans thought about Salah, be careful what you wish for

Salah was never given a fair chance to prove himself in England until he came to Liverpool. Can has had four seasons to do so and I’m still not convinced by him.

Mr.H

The only annoying thing is not getting a fee for him

brevity

I think people are being a bit dismissive of Can. I mean it's Juventus who are after him, not some mid-table crowd.

I think he's a fine player. He's younger than Ox too so plenty of time to improve.

Would have been to good to keep him but I don't think he wanted to stay.

Nobody can deny Can's ability or potential.

He was just never consistent enough. Pity as there's a very good player in there.

Wish him the best anyway at Juve.

mosstin

brevity wrote: »

I think people are being a bit dismissive of Can. I mean it's Juventus who are after him, not some mid-table crowd.

I think he's a fine player. He's younger than Ox too so plenty of time to improve.

Would have been to good to keep him but I don't think he wanted to stay.

If you'd asked me before we signed Ox who I'd rather have at the club, it would have been Can without question. Fact is that Klopp's been able to turn Ox into a hugely effective player for us whereas Can looks decent in fits and starts for us. Still wish him all the best at Juve.

Mr.H

Dont get me wrong i like Can and if i had the choice i would rather he stayed. But i also dont think he is good enough consistently to rely on in big games. That of course is not to say he cant be one of our beat players at times. I just think we can improve that part of our team a lot. Fabinho and kieta are a great start to that goal. So thats why i dont think he is a big loss. Likewise hendo milner gini and adam. All above average players. But if we looked to improve on them i wouldnt miss them

Harry Palmr

Four weeks of this is going to kill me, sign someone!!!!!!!!

martyos121

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Four weeks of this is going to kill me, sign someone!!!!!!!!

I hear that Nice striker is out of contract this summer...

~Rebel~

5starpool wrote: »

It wouldn't be great, but people (including me at times admittedly) get too carried away with declarations of doom.

Yeah, like, there will definately come a run of fixtures this season where we get less than 6 points from 3 games we expected to win. Its 38 games... these things happen.

How we play is more important.

I actually kind of wish we had a few tougher games early on - we're not gonna have a lot of change at the start of the season most likely, so could have caught a few of the better teams out I think.

citytillidie

August
Date/Team Team TV
11th Aug West Ham
18th Aug Palace (a)
25th Aug Brighton


September
Date/Team Team TV
1st Sep Leicester (a)
15th Sep Spurs (a)
18th Sep UCL Match Day 1
19th Sep UCL Match Day 1
22nd Sep Southmapton
25th Sep EFL CUP 3rd Round
29th Sep Chelsea (a)


October
Date/Team Team TV
2nd Oct UCL Match Day 2
3rd Oct UCL Match Day 2
6th Oct Man City
20th Oct Huddersfield (a)
23rd Oct UCL Match Day 3
24th Oct UCL Match Day 3
27th Oct Cardiff
31st Oct EFL CUP 4th Round


November
Date/Team Team TV
3rd Nov Arsenal (a)
6th Nov UCL Match Day 4
7th Nov UCL Match Day 4
10th Nov Fulham
24th Nov Watford (a)
27th Nov UCL Match Day 5
28th Nov UCL Match Day 5


December
Date/Team Team TV
1st Dec Everton
4th Dec Burnley (a)
8th Dec Bournemouth (a)
11th Dec UCL Match Day 6
12th Dec UCL Match Day 6
15th Dec Man Utd
19th Dec EFL CUP QF
22nd Dec Wolves (a)
26th Dec Newcastle
29th Dec Arsenal


January
Date/Team Team TV
1st Jan Man City (a)
5th Jan FA CUP 3rd Round
9th Jan EFL CUP SF 1st Leg
12th Jan Brighton (a)
19th Jan Palace
23rd Jan EFL CUP SF 2nd Leg
26th Jan FA CUP 4th Round
30th Jan Leicester


February
Date/Team Team TV
2nd Feb West Ham (a)
9th Feb Bournemouth
12th Feb UCL Last 16 1st Leg
13th Feb UCL Last 16 1st Leg
16th Feb FA CUP 5th Round
19th Feb UCL Last 16 1st Leg
20th Feb UCL Last 16 1st Leg
22nd Feb EFL CUP Final
23rd Feb Man Utd (a)
27th Feb Watford


March
Date/Team Team TV
2nd Mar Everton (a)
5th Mar UCL Last 16 2nd Leg
6th Mar UCL Last 16 2nd Leg
9th Mar Burnley
12th Mar UCL Last 16 2nd Leg
13th Mar UCL Last 16 2nd Leg
15th Mar FA CUP QF
16th Mar Fulham (a)
30th Mar Spurs


April
Date/Team Team TV
5th Apr FA CUP SF
6th Apr Southampton (a)
9th Apr UCL QF 1st Leg
10th Apr UCL QF 1st Leg
14th Apr Chelsea
16th Apr UCL QF 2nd Leg
17th Apr UCL QF 2nd Leg
20th Apr Cardiff (a)
27th Apr Huddersfield
30th Apr UCL SF 1st Leg


May
Date/Team Team TV
1st May UCL SF 1st Leg
4th May Newcastle (a)
7th May UCL SF 2nd Leg
8th May UCL SF 2nd Leg
12th May Wolves
18th May FA CUP Final
1st June UCL Final