Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2018

ricero

paulie21 wrote: »

Embarrassing by Hendo there

Yea disgusted seeing that. Give the armband to Van Dijk i say.

Turtyturd

Even pointed at where he was going to fall.

Agent Coulson

Henderson threw a head that time.

ballyargus

why didn't we sign Pickford again?

Danny Murphy off celebrating as we speak

retalivity

Oh Jordan

Sofa Spud

Hendo doesn't want to miss the Chester game...

gimli2112

feel bad Henderson missed, not a bad peno, why are Liverpool so bad at them recently? phew Colombia missed the next

Turtyturd

Might have been concussed?

Agent Coulson

Turtyturd wrote: »

Might have been concussed?

He did headbutt a Colombian

gimli2112

hmmmm the nightmare continues, at least Henderson isn't the scapegoat

marklazarcovic

Took a good pen ,was a great save

Gbear

Huge game by the Captain there. That midfield of England's is the busiest at the world cup and he was still at it right to the end.

I'm only sorry he won't be home sooner, but at least he won't get crucified for the penalty.

ThunbergsAreGo

Gbear wrote: »

Huge game by the Captain there. That midfield of England's is the busiest at the world cup and he was still at it right to the end.

I'm only sorry he won't be home sooner, but at least he won't get crucified for the penalty.

He was excellent tonight

It's a thankless task in that team with the way they are set up

Charlie19

Slipped a nice ball through to Rose too.

HandsomeBob

marklazarcovic wrote: »

Took a good pen ,was a great save

Not enough power in it but yeah wasn't the worst. No idea why he was in the first 5 though when Vardy was on the pitch. Went from Hamilton claiming him and Kane would be taking the first 2 to none at all.

yourdeadwright

Surely Mira would be a great buy , He lools amazing has everything and seems to be a leader and has fir in his belly

Agent Coulson

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Surely Mira would be a great buy , He lools amazing has everything and seems to be a leader and has fir in his belly

He joined Barca in January.

If they were to sell him it would cost more than VVD.

martyos121

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Surely Mira would be a great buy , He lools amazing has everything and seems to be a leader and has fir in his belly

Watch his performance against Levante a few months ago and get back to us on that. :pac:

Charlie19

HandsomeBob wrote: »

Not enough power in it but yeah wasn't the worst. No idea why he was in the first 5 though when Vardy was on the pitch. Went from Hamilton claiming him and Kane would be taking the first 2 to none at all.

Vardy looked to be holding his groin during the celebrations after the shootout.

mosstin

Charlie19 wrote: »

Vardy looked to be holding his groin during the celebrations after the shootout.

Most probably indulging in some crude stereotyping towards the Colombian players, then. He's a bad 'un.

Agent Coulson

Here's an early call Everton will finish above Liverpool this season due to Pickford.

Decent article here I feel ........... https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/keita-fabinho-perfect-for-liverpool-14861384 .........

"As for Fabinho, he’s someone we’ve been waiting for since Javier Mascherano left in 2010.

Klopp’s system requires his team to play on the front foot, nicking the ball and surging up the pitch to participate in the attack, thus stretching the role of an orthodox defensive midfielder.

............
That’s left Liverpool vulnerable at times, which is why Fabinho is such an exciting prospect. He averaged 3.4 tackles and 1.3 interceptions per game last season, more than any of the Liverpool crop, and will therefore offer a blanket in front of the defence while possessing the quality in possession to keep the team ticking over on an attacking front."

I won't pretend to have known that Fabinho is that sort of player.

citytillidie

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Here's an early call Everton will finish above Liverpool this season due to Pickford.

Is that you Richard Keys?

Agent Coulson

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Here's an early call Everton will finish above Liverpool this season due to Pickford.

Its too early to be drinking mate.

mosstin

Deleted User wrote: »

Its too early to be drinking mate.

Well, it works for Suarez.

Muahahaha

Cant believe people are still debating the Karius issue. I see goalkeepers like untrained dogs- if a dog bites someone your best bet is to get rid because they will bite again. Similarily if goalkeepers make huge cock ups they go on to do it again and again. Karius (and Migs) clearly fit this mould, as did David James and Bruce Grobbelar before them. We got away with Brucies antics back in the 80s because the attack was so good. The modern game is very different to that and goalkeeper mistakes get punished ruthlessly as we know from the CL final.

Ive lots of sympathy for Karius and what happened but at the same time I recognise that the margins in football are so slim these days that having a goalkeeper as a liability is just not an option if we want to compete for a title. People need to ask themselves would they be happy having Karius in goal whilst leading the league by a single point in April with three games left to go to finally win a title? I know I wouldnt and doubt the players around him would either.

Indeed, also, should Salah not be as prolific in front of goal and one of Firmino or Mane or the midfielders don't make up the "shortfall" then we really might be needing an improved GK to stay in the Top4, not to mind challenge for the PL.

Muahahaha

And just on the Karius improvement from January onwards, Ive a suspicion that it was down to VVD (and Robbo) shoring up the defence and us conceding less shots on target.

Id love to see some Opta stats on how many goal scoring chances we gave opposing teams before VVD arrived and after he arrived. I could be wrong but my gut instinct is that the Karius improvement was largely down to clean sheets which were earned by the defence. Im not saying Karuis didnt make any good saves in that period but I do feel he faced less tests of his ability because of how well the back line were protecting his goal.

Riesen_Meal

Muahahaha wrote: »

And just on the Karius improvement from January onwards, Ive a suspicion that it was down to VVD (and Robbo) shoring up the defence and us conceding less shots on target.

Id love to see some Opta stats on how many goal scoring chances we gave opposing teams before VVD arrived and after he arrived. I could be wrong but my gut instinct is that the Karius improvement was largely down to clean sheets which were earned by the defence. Im not saying Karuis didnt make any good saves in that period but I do feel he faced less tests of his ability because of how well the back line were protecting his goal.

Definitely Karius' improvement is down to the lanky Dutch unit in front of him, VVD has brought a relative calmness that we didn't have before he joined us...

yourdeadwright

Fieldog wrote: »

Muahahaha wrote: »

And just on the Karius improvement from January onwards, Ive a suspicion that it was down to VVD (and Robbo) shoring up the defence and us conceding less shots on target.

Id love to see some Opta stats on how many goal scoring chances we gave opposing teams before VVD arrived and after he arrived. I could be wrong but my gut instinct is that the Karius improvement was largely down to clean sheets which were earned by the defence. Im not saying Karuis didnt make any good saves in that period but I do feel he faced less tests of his ability because of how well the back line were protecting his goal.

Definitely Karius' improvement is down to the lanky Dutch unit in front of him, VVD has brought a relative calmness that we didn't have before he joined us...

I love that people bang on about the improvement , he went from a lad who'd get a game for your sunday league team to a championship level keeper , It's still  NOT good enough .,

Muahahaha

Muahahaha wrote: »

And just on the Karius improvement from January onwards, Ive a suspicion that it was down to VVD (and Robbo) shoring up the defence and us conceding less shots on target..........

Fieldog wrote: »

Definitely Karius' improvement is down to the lanky Dutch unit in front of him, VVD has brought a relative calmness that we didn't have before he joined us...

Indeed, was saying similar earlier in the week .......https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=107421270&postcount=2787

Riesen_Meal

If we want to challenge for the league we definitely need a new keeper, I wouldn't mind Karius playing the odd cup match though here and there...

5starpool

Muahahaha wrote: »

Cant believe people are still debating the Karius issue. I see goalkeepers like untrained dogs- if a dog bites someone your best bet is to get rid because they will bite again. Similarily if goalkeepers make huge cock ups they go on to do it again and again. Karius (and Migs) clearly fit this mould, as did David James and Bruce Grobbelar before them. We got away with Brucies antics back in the 80s because the attack was so good. The modern game is very different to that and goalkeeper mistakes get punished ruthlessly as we know from the CL final.

Ive lots of sympathy for Karius and what happened but at the same time I recognise that the margins in football are so slim these days that having a goalkeeper as a liability is just not an option if we want to compete for a title. People need to ask themselves would they be happy having Karius in goal whilst leading the league by a single point in April with three games left to go to finally win a title? I know I wouldnt and doubt the players around him would either.

Only 1 person's opinion matters on this sadly. I expect Karius to be our goalie come August 11th.

Agent Coulson

5starpool wrote: »

Only 1 person's opinion matters on this sadly. I expect Karius to be our goalie come August 11th.

Sadly that 1 person that got us to two European Cup finals a league cup final none of which we won and back to back top 4 finishes.

However thankfully he probably knows a bit more about football than the rest of us or maybe it's time to get a new 1 in who knows goalkeepers.

Fromvert

Not having enough goalscorers along with the goalkeeper are my two biggest concerns for this season, they got us 90 goals last year, we need a few other players to chip in with goals because if they stay fit and get us 60-70 goals that's still a very good to great season. We'll be hoping with VVD and Robertson starting from the first game along with Fabinho and Keita we'll be a little more solid.

I think I'd rank getting in players who will stick the ball in the net is a bigger priority than a Karius re placement because injuries and/or lack of form from our current front three next season would have a bigger impact on our season than Karius throwing a few into the net will.

Chardee MacDennis

Muahahaha wrote: »

if goalkeepers make huge cock ups they go on to do it again and again.

Take em out and shoot them alright....

Ardent

5starpool wrote: »

Only 1 person's opinion matters on this sadly. I expect Karius to be our goalie come August 11th.

I'll cry if that comes to pass

Ardent

Ardent wrote: »

I'll cry if that comes to pass

It wouldn't surprise me.
He was bought to be our #1 keeper and he's only been that for half a season ish after being dropped after his initial performances being absolutely terrible.
Could easily see him get another season prove (well, try to I suppose) he's up to the job

We don't play RM every week :pac:

5starpool

Ardent wrote: »

I'll cry if that comes to pass

Get the tissues ready. Hopefully the general defensive improvements post the Spurs away game continue next season and the goalie will have less to be doing.

Iused2likebusts

We had a good few CS last year when the keeper didn't have to make a single save. Our keepers don't face many shots the problem is they concede a very high percentage of the ones they face.

Turtyturd

Chardee MacDennis wrote: »

Take em out and shoot them alright....

Didn’t De Gea do the exact same thing against ‘Ronnie’ a few weeks ago?

ricero

Echo reporting that Klopp will persist with Karius as our number 1 goalkeeper for next season.

I trust Klopp but not on this one. Karius is just not good enough and will cost us again in a big match.

Time to spend big on a goalkeeper ffs.

Turtyturd

I trust Klopp when he makes decisions I agree with.

robwen

Contains actual footage of our goalkeeping coach working with our goalies

MD1990

Karius is a decent goalkeeper.
It is all mental with Karius.

He looks very nervous . Bale's shot in the CL final for the 3rd goal would not have happened if he didn't make the first error for example.
I think a loan move would be good for him but that won't happen as there isn't many keepers out there & some are way overpriced like Alisson.

Oblak is probably not realistic as Atletico have the CL final in their home stadium next season & have made some good signings.

Sofa Spud

Augeo wrote: »

It wouldn't surprise me.
He was bought to be our #1 keeper and he's only been that for half a season ish after being dropped after his initial performances being absolutely terrible.
Could easily see him get another season prove (well, try to I suppose) he's up to the job

We don't play RM every week :pac:

Yeah, this.
I'd be afraid of his mental state in terms of the pressure real and imaginary that he'll feel for being perceived that he lost the final but Klopp may very well look at it in terms that if he can get over that, he can get over anything, and he wants to remain true to the trust he placed in him since January. He had 8 clean sheets in 16 PL games since then and a lot of people, including folks in this parish, were singing his praise for the improvement and how much more assured he was than Mig.

Then the CL final happened and a lot of people seem to have chosen not to take the concussion on board when commenting on his performance. I'd love to see a worldie big name buy, but that's going to be hard, if not impossible as world class goalies are rare, so chances are we'll see him retain the no.1 for next year too. Realism would say we need to get over it and move on - the concern is that one big blunder that even the most accomplished goalies could make and the fans and press will be all over him and even the most mentally strong goalies will struggle to deal with that...

ricero

Rumours Shaqiri is to be announced in the next few days.

Delighted if true i think he will be shrewd bit of buisness.

mosstin

ricero wrote: »

Rumours Shaqiri is to be announced in the next few days.

Delighted if true i think he will be shrewd bit of buisness.

Likewise. Think he'll be an excellent squad addition.



Also, those goalkeeper rumours about Klopp being happy to start with Karius have been rubbished. Taken out of context apparently - well, it is Twitter after all - and the hunt for a keeper goes on. What I like about Klopp is - like with VVD - he is stubborn about getting his targets and that may take a while.

Mr.H

mosstin wrote:

Also, those goalkeeper rumours about Klopp being happy to start with Karius have been rubbished. Taken out of context apparently - well, it is Twitter after all - and the hunt for a keeper goes on. What I like about Klopp is - like with VVD - he is stubborn about getting his targets and that may take a while.

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