Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2018

martyos121

tinpib wrote: »

Oh dear. Spelling mistake on Rhian Brewster's tattoo.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-5965721/Your-hate-makes-unstopable-Liverpool-striker-Rhian-Brewster-reveals-spelling-error-tattoo.html

We’ll just have to start calling him Ian then.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

If they really are £4m short of the asking price, I hope we don't get gazumped by Chelsea as a result of this lowballing caper we seem to love.

Agent Coulson

I can't believe in this day and age there hasn't been a Brewster's Millions meme made since he signed the contract last night.

Agent Coulson

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: »

If they really are £4m short of the asking price, I hope we don't get gazumped by Chelsea as a result of this lowballing caper we seem to love.

To be fair we a low balling by almost doubling the World Record price for a keeper that's some class low balling.

marklazarcovic

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: »

If they really are £4m short of the asking price, I hope we don't get gazumped by Chelsea as a result of this lowballing caper we seem to love.

Lowballing? A world record fee ,he ain't worth half if it imo

charolais0153

Dickerty wrote: »

He's still not a weak link. And if you think about the position, we also have Clyne and Gomez. In fact, if we fix the keeper, we really don't have a weak position in the starting XI...

Cb or attacking midfield?

JimboJones99

Dickerty wrote: »

I think you have answered your own concerns!

For me, Lovren is first choice alongside VVD. He did look a lot better beside a dominant talker, he can just do his job. And I think Matip, Klavan and Gomez is plenty of cover. It's the best CB options of any team in the league.

So definitely not where we need to focus...

I actually laughed when you said we have the best CB options in the league and thought yeah right but when I actually thought about it there is certainly a strong case to be made.


Liverpool
VVD, Lovren, Matip, Gomez, Klavan

Man City
Otamendi, Kompany, Stones, Laporte, Mangala


Man Utd
Smalling, Jones, Bailly, Lindelof, Rojo


Chelsea
Cahill, Luiz, Rudiger, Christensen, Azpilicueta


Spurs
Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Sanchez, Dier, Foyth


Arsenal
Koscielny, Mustafi, Holding, Chambers, 2 new Greek fellas


I don't think there is much difference between all the above and I'm sure opinions as to who would have the best options would greatly differ. I would argue that Spurs would currently have the best (at least if just looking at top 3) but nothing much between the rest. Man Utd fans would no doubt say theirs is but they play so defensively it helps them. Arsenal will hope that the 2 new Greek lads will be solid and so push them up. Chelsea will surely buy a CB as their options dont look great. Man City, with Kompany so unreliable, surprisingly look weak, just shows how good their attack was last year.


So, whilst as I said not the most immediate area to focus on, if FSG did have the funds to go again after hopefully Allison and Fekir I would still be targeting another CB to strongly compete with Lovren to partner VVD. Then we would have Matip as back up. Let Gomez go out on loan and keep Klavan as 5th choice if necessary for a year. We would definitely have the best options then.

Dickerty

charolais0153 wrote: »

Cb or attacking midfield?

Not CB, and I think they'd like Fekir as at attacking midfielder, like Ox, but I think midfield works differently with Fabinho, Henderson and Keita. None are outright AMs, Fabinho in particular will sit between the CBs and the other two will be pushing on.
But we have two attacking FBs and two attacking wide men, that's where the threat comes from. It won't be a replication of Coutinho, where everything went through him...

rob316

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: »

If they really are £4m short of the asking price, I hope we don't get gazumped by Chelsea as a result of this lowballing caper we seem to love.

If you want a car you like, you still don't offer the asking straight away.

charolais0153

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Left back was a bit of a weird one this tournament, and it looks like they're only picking from the final four teams.

The one that stood out for me though was Laxalt at Uruguay, even though he's normally a left winger I think. Was brilliant both defending and attacking down the left for Uruguay.

Hernandez wa sgood for france i thought

xabi

rob316 wrote: »

If you want a car you like, you still don't offer the asking straight away.

You never pay sticker price

Sappy404

The extreme defender was convinced by Klopp and national teammate Firmino to choose the Reds, good at burning Chelsea .

https://www.pagineromaniste.com/mercato-roma-trovato-laccordo-con-il-liverpool-per-alisson-65-milioni-piu-10-di-bonus-il-portiere-e-pronto-a-firmare/

Actual translation: It's a done deal. Other outlets in Italy saying the same.

8-10

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I can't believe in this day and age there hasn't been a Brewster's Millions meme made since he signed the contract last night.

Anyone young enough to make memes would be not old enough to remember Brewster's Millions

8-10

JimboJones99 wrote: »

Liverpool
VVD, Lovren, Matip, Gomez, Klavan

Man City
Otamendi, Kompany, Stones, Laporte, Mangala


Man Utd
Smalling, Jones, Bailly, Lindelof, Rojo


Chelsea
Cahill, Luiz, Rudiger, Christensen, Azpilicueta


Spurs
Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Sanchez, Dier, Foyth


Arsenal
Koscielny, Mustafi, Holding, Chambers, 2 new Greek fellas


I don't think there is much difference between all the above and I'm sure opinions as to who would have the best options would greatly differ. I would argue that Spurs would currently have the best (at least if just looking at top 3) but nothing much between the rest.

Spurs definitely have the best. Sanchez is very underrated. Then I'd have Chelsea, especially as it looks as though they'll get Rugani. After that I'd say it's a toss up between ourselves and City, and then same with United and Arsenal after that.

murpho999

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1019522814888566784
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1019522869477494785

Looks like it's happening.

SlickRic

i don't blame Roma holding out for a huge fee.

we absolutely destroyed them on Salah, so they're welcome to a few extra million worth of a 'pity fee'.

murpho999

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: »

If they really are £4m short of the asking price, I hope we don't get gazumped by Chelsea as a result of this lowballing caper we seem to love.

It's a negotiation, that's how it works.

Chelsea don't appear to be in the mix.

Also, a transfer involves three parties, not two , so the player has to agree too.

yourdeadwright

8-10 wrote: »

JimboJones99 wrote: »

Liverpool
VVD, Lovren, Matip, Gomez, Klavan

Man City
Otamendi, Kompany, Stones, Laporte, Mangala


Man Utd
Smalling, Jones, Bailly, Lindelof, Rojo


Chelsea
Cahill, Luiz, Rudiger, Christensen, Azpilicueta


Spurs
Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Sanchez, Dier, Foyth


Arsenal
Koscielny, Mustafi, Holding, Chambers, 2 new Greek fellas


I don't think there is much difference between all the above and I'm sure opinions as to who would have the best options would greatly differ. I would argue that Spurs would currently have the best (at least if just looking at top 3) but nothing much between the rest.

Spurs definitely have the best. Sanchez is very underrated. Then I'd have Chelsea, especially as it looks as though they'll get Rugani. After that I'd say it's a toss up between ourselves and City, and then same with United and Arsenal after that.

Alderweireld looks like he's leaving ,
Sanchez is rate how he should be good when he's on it but makes more mistake than our very own Dejan

TitianGerm

SlickRic wrote: »

i don't blame Roma holding out for a huge fee.

we absolutely destroyed them on Salah, so they're welcome to a few extra million worth of a 'pity fee'.

€125 for Salah and Alisson.

If I remember correctly Salah cost us €90m and was cheap at that. Alisson is a bargain at €35m

gimli2112

SlickRic wrote: »

i don't blame Roma holding out for a huge fee.

we absolutely destroyed them on Salah, so they're welcome to a few extra million worth of a 'pity fee'.

In fairness it only became apparent subsequently that we had robbed them. It wasn't that a bad price at the time. If we're factoring hindsight into it Newcastle owe us a whooping refund on Carroll.

gimli2112

Sky sources had previously indicated Liverpool had no plans to bid for Alisson this summer, but that was earlier in the window when the Premier League club believed the Brazil international was going to Real Madrid.


the alternative version is sky sources didn't have a clue when they reported it last week

rob316

SlickRic wrote: »

i don't blame Roma holding out for a huge fee.

we absolutely destroyed them on Salah, so they're welcome to a few extra million worth of a 'pity fee'.

Did we get him cheap at the time? It's all well and good saying hes worth 200m now but he wasn't when we did. I remember seen plenty of bits that we broke our transfer record for a Chelsea flop.

~Rebel~

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Left back was a bit of a weird one this tournament, and it looks like they're only picking from the final four teams.

The one that stood out for me though was Laxalt at Uruguay, even though he's normally a left winger I think. Was brilliant both defending and attacking down the left for Uruguay.

Left midfield for Genoa. Spectacular on a good day, but is a bit non consistent - some times he disappears.

MarkY91

TitianGerm wrote: »

€125 for Salah and Alisson.

If I remember correctly Salah cost us €90m and was cheap at that. Alisson is a bargain at €35m

If you put it in that perspective then in very happy with how things may work out with alisson haah

The Mig

Paul Joyce is running it. Its go time folks

The Mig

https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/1019530813304688640

davyboy1975

https://twitter.com/MelissaReddy_/status/1019531444803264512

https://twitter.com/_chrisbascombe/status/1019531225135017984?s=21

Its happening now :-)

witnessrenegade

Nobody else worried by lack of actual Strikers if Ings/Divok/Sturridge/Solanke are gone/loaned/useless? Only Bobby up front, maybe could do with another defender??

SlickRic

gimli2112 wrote: »

In fairness it only became apparent subsequently that we had robbed them. It wasn't that a bad price at the time. If we're factoring hindsight into it Newcastle owe us a whooping refund on Carroll.

rob316 wrote: »

Did we get him cheap at the time? It's all well and good saying hes worth 200m now but he wasn't when we did. I remember seen plenty of bits that we broke our transfer record for a Chelsea flop.

lads, relax. I'm obviously making a bit of a joke based on the fact Salah has turned into a bargain.

NOTE TO SELF: make humour 100% obvious when online.

Agent Coulson

SlickRic wrote: »

lads, relax. I'm obviously making a bit of a joke based on the fact Salah has turned into a bargain.

NOTE TO SELF: make humour 100% obvious when online.

That doesn't work in this thread

bennyineire

James Pearce now reporting it on the Echo, that's good enough for me

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-agree-world-record-668million-14922696

GBX

witnessrenegade wrote: »

Nobody else worried by lack of actual Strikers if Ings/Divok/Sturridge/Solanke are gone/loaned/useless? Only Bobby up front, maybe could do with another defender??

No. I trust the club to either bring in somebody under the radar - even if it gets to the stage of denial. Or Klopp to work his magic on somebody to fill in, even Lovern.

JimboJones99

witnessrenegade wrote: »

Nobody else worried by lack of actual Strikers if Ings/Divok/Sturridge/Solanke are gone/loaned/useless? Only Bobby up front, maybe could do with another defender??

I think we could see Salah being used more as CF if that was the case with plenty of movement with other forward players. Thats why Shaqiri and hopefully Fekir are signed to give more options in the front three with them interchanging positions.


But lets just hope Bobby stays being an iron man.

ricero

Great to see the club finally spending the big bucks to make us compete.

Boom_Bap

witnessrenegade wrote: »

Nobody else worried by lack of actual Strikers if Ings/Divok/Sturridge/Solanke are gone/loaned/useless? Only Bobby up front, maybe could do with another defender??

With the addition of Shaqiri, we could move Salah to the Fun Bobby slot and Shaq can play wide. Mane could probably do a similar job.

We also have Ox that can play in the wider slots as well.
I'd still say that Fekir will be sorted out and he can fit in anywhere across the front 3 as well.


Sturridge is also talking a good game at the moment, it he stays fit (we've heard this before) I'm sure that he could sit up top and let the other lads do the backtracking.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Agent Coulson wrote: »

To be fair we a low balling by almost doubling the World Record price for a keeper that's some class low balling.

marklazarcovic wrote: »

Lowballing? A world record fee ,he ain't worth half if it imo

It's still lowballing, lads

rob316 wrote: »

If you want a car you like, you still don't offer the asking straight away.

xabi wrote: »

You never pay sticker price

You do if you need the car, badly want it, but a lad with more money is standing behind you, ready to offer more.

murpho999 wrote: »

It's a negotiation, that's how it works.

Chelsea don't appear to be in the mix.

Also, a transfer involves three parties, not two , so the player has to agree too.

Chelsea have shafted us for players we thought wanted to come to us before. West London or Merseyside for a 25 year old millionaire?? Gee, I dunno!

The point is, we were/are gonna pay what Roma want to get him. Just stop messing around and get it done.

JimboJones99

In fairness you have to admire Klopp and his determination to only go for the player he really wants. Obviously we don't know what goes on behind the scenes and maybe he would have settled for someone else but from his words I fully expected him to stick with Karius/Ward unless he got exactly who wanted rather than panic buy.

awec

BBC has it, top story in football section

JimboJones99

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: »

It's still lowballing, lads





You do if you need the car, badly want it, but a lad with more money is standing behind you, ready to offer more.



Chelsea have shafted us for players we thought wanted to come to us before. West London or Merseyside for a 25 year old millionaire?? Gee, I dunno!

The point is, we were/are gonna pay what Roma want to get him. Just stop messing around and get it done.

Yeah but now we have Klopp, Chelsea and the others don't. Who wouldn't want to play for him??

Benimar

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: »

It's still lowballing, lads


It's called a negotiation. Pay full price straight up and every other team will demand extortionate fees for any other player we try buy.


You do if you need the car, badly want it, but a lad with more money is standing behind you, ready to offer more.

We don't know that the lad with more money is actually willing to spend it on this particular 'car'

Chelsea have shafted us for players we thought wanted to come to us before. West London or Merseyside for a 25 year old millionaire?? Gee, I dunno!

Chelsea did that when they were winning leagues and qualifying for the CL each season. They have missed CL 2 of the last 3 years. That factors in too.

The point is, we were/are gonna pay what Roma want to get him. Just stop messing around and get it done.

You do understand that the price Roma want (and are willing to accept) and the price they would like are two different things?

TL: DR: I'm glad you aren't Liverpools Chief Negotiator!!

TitianGerm

https://twitter.com/JamesPearceEcho/status/1019536986053533696?s=19

Jimbo with the banter.

JimboJones99

Boom_Bap wrote: »

With the addition of Shaqiri, we could move Salah to the Fun Bobby slot and Shaq can play wide. Mane could probably do a similar job.

We also have Ox that can play in the wider slots as well.
I'd still say that Fekir will be sorted out and he can fit in anywhere across the front 3 as well.


Sturridge is also talking a good game at the moment, it he stays fit (we've heard this before) I'm sure that he could sit up top and let the other lads do the backtracking.

A big part of the reason Bobby is so important is his energy and huge work rate. Massively contributed to Salah's amazing season by taking that workload off him with his selflessness, we cant afford to leave Sturridge just sit up front waiting for the chance for him just to finish (which there probably isn't anyone better in the squad at doing in fairness)

Boom_Bap

Pearce is doing a FB live thing now about it.

Sappy404

TitianGerm wrote: »

€125 for Salah and Alisson.

If I remember correctly Salah cost us €90m and was cheap at that. Alisson is a bargain at €35m

Yep, and we sold Torres for Andy Carroll + £15m

Boom_Bap

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Pearce is doing a FB live thing now about it.

Not really saying anything though other than we are now free to to to Allison, he's a #1 target and we have pulling power in the transfer market.
Now that teams know the asking price, they are free to come in and counter now.

marklazarcovic

I'd take Cahill as a bench cb if he's willing and not looking for insane money,perfect for backup

SlickRic

one thing about this Alisson deal is it needs to be done now.

Courtois seems to be being shipped off now, so who knows what Chelsea are doing. hopefully we can convince Alisson before others get too involved.

Do your thing Fun Bobby

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Benimar wrote: »

TL: DR: I'm glad you aren't Liverpools Chief Negotiator!!

Smart lad!

I understand the concept of negotiating a price. I was just saying that I hoped Liverpool wouldn't have their eye wiped by another club over 4 poxy million when they were offering that high a fee in the first place.

augustus gloop

Pearce just confirmed allison fee agreed 66.8M I think

Thud

Liverpool agree deal worth £67m with Roma for goalkeeper Alisson

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/liverpool/liverpool-agree-deal-worth-67m-with-roma-for-goalkeeper-alisson-37131218.html

"It is now up to the 25-year-old to join Jurgen Klopp or wait to see if Chelsea match the Kop bid. "