Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2018

Sofa Spud

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Isn’t there transfer rumors about him going to Turkey?

He looks all smiley in the preseason press photos anyway.

LFC site saying he has a minor muscle strain. Really hope the Turkey rumours are bullsh!t - if it's true that the Fekir deal is now dead and Klopp is not expecting any more major moves in the market other than offloading deadwood, then we're net/net the same in midfield - Can gone, Ox out for the season and Nabby and Fabby in - it's not as if Gini needs to move to ensure game time...

murpho999

I don't believe Gini is leaving at all.

Why would he? He played lots of games for us last season and will do so again this season despite what many think.

Why would he move to Turkey?

Fowler87

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

We seem to be getting a bit better at selling barely used players.

That's 15M for Ibe.
6M for Brad Smith
12M for Ward

33M for the lot.

Obviously Markovic is still somehow immune to this.

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect 20m for Bogdan now

Dickerty

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Isn’t there transfer rumors about him going to Turkey?

He looks all smiley in the preseason press photos anyway.

I don't see why we would sell unless he wants to go, if he cannot get assurances of being a starter. He's a useful player, a little different from the two we brought in. And seems a great guy to have around, and a known quantity.

Ox is missing for a full season, and Can has left. So we have the same numbers now that we had in April, with two changes. So we are not overstocked.

SlickRic

12m for Ward, no matter what you think of his potential, is insane.

this fúcking market. it's hilarious.

but as I said, fees are almost meaningless at this stage. everyone's rolling in cash.

Dickerty

Dickerty wrote: »

Who suggested that amount? I think it would take c. €70M for either Oblak or Allison, but Migs is worth €25M in the current market with his experience.

I'll re-quote this because it was ridiculed at the time, but if Ward goes for £12M/€14M, then I think Migs WILL go for close to €25M...

Dickerty

SlickRic wrote: »

12m for Ward, no matter what you think of his potential, is insane.

this fúcking market. it's hilarious.

but as I said, fees are almost meaningless at this stage. everyone's rolling in cash.

But that won't last forever, so now is the time to buy the right players at the right age in case things reverse. We don't want to be buying 4 core players every 12 months for £200M.

Bowlardo

• 12 millions for ward
• 15 million or there abouts for Mignolet
• 15 millions for Ings
• 15-20 Millions for Origi probably after an initial loan to newcastle
• 15-20 for Lallana (maybe the Jan window) 
• 5-10 millions for Markovic
• 10-12 Million for Moreno
• 20 Million for Gini

could be getting 70-100 million for getting rid of the dross. Sturridge will probably see out the contract and go somewhere sunny on free.

I'm pretty excited about the players that could be leaving

Still leaves
Allinson, Karius
TAA, Clyne/VVD ,Lovren,Matip, Gomez,Klavan/ Robertson,Gomez,Milner
Hendo, Fabinho, Keita, Milner, Lallana, Ox, Woodburn
Salah,Firmino,Mane, Shaqiri, Sturridge, Solanke, Brewster

Healthy squad but I think we will definitely be buy 1 or two more players before the window is out if we manage to shift 5 or so of the lot mentioned above

charolais0153

yourdeadwright wrote: »

United fans fail to realise it was there Club with the purchase of Pogba that changed football, Prices went through the roof because of that deal .

Your dead wrong.....why wasnt salah 20 odd million dearer? It was neymar that started it off and then mbappe,dembele,Coutinho followed. Without neymar they would of all been 35-40 million cheaper

charolais0153

Agent Coulson wrote: »

£12m for Ward a 3rd choice keeper who hadn’t a future at the club.

Mig should command £16/18m maybe even £20m in this crazy transfer market.

That is nearly half the Alisson fee and their combined wages would also be a big chunk off his as well.

That would again be great Business by the club.

Off ypur rocker...20 million for mignolet? Ward has potential. Mingolet is around the scene a while now and is proven to be middling at best. 8-10 million would be excellent business

charolais0153

charolais0153 wrote: »

Off ypur rocker...20 million for mignolet? Ward has potential. Mingolet is around the scene a while now and is proven to be middling at best. 8-10 million would be excellent business

I think Mig' is on over £60k week .. he extended his contract in 2016 but that was further extended not too long ago to run until 2023.

I dunno what sort of a fee he'd command if he's deemed to be worse than Karius and is currently holding the guts of a 5 year deal worth £15m in wages.

Ward was on a tiny salary so no doubt will get a pay rise handy enough. Karius is on £25k/week and that seems low too but I dunno how sellable he is either. If Ward leaves we must be keeping one of Migs and Karius. At least one of them.

charolais0153

Bowlardo wrote: »

• 12 millions for ward
• 15 million or there abouts for Mignolet
• 15 millions for Ings
• 15-20 Millions for Origi probably after an initial loan to newcastle
• 15-20 for Lallana (maybe the Jan window) 
• 5-10 millions for Markovic
• 10-12 Million for Moreno
• 20 Million for Gini

We need to have depth. Getting rid of our old midfield,our backup strikers....( i'd prefer both origi and ings over solanke) ,our back-up left back is a terrible idea. And some of the valies you have on players are too prohibitive for the calobre of club that Will buy them

murpho999

Bowlardo wrote: »

• 12 millions for ward
• 15 million or there abouts for Mignolet
• 15 millions for Ings
• 15-20 Millions for Origi probably after an initial loan to newcastle
• 15-20 for Lallana (maybe the Jan window) 
• 5-10 millions for Markovic
• 10-12 Million for Moreno
  
• 20 Million for Gini

could be getting 70-100 million for getting rid of the dross. Sturridge will probably see out the contract and go somewhere sunny on free.

I'm pretty excited about the players that could be leaving

Still leaves
Allinson, Karius
TAA, Clyne/VVD ,Lovren,Matip, Gomez,Klavan/ Robertson,Gomez,Milner
Hendo, Fabinho, Keita, Milner, Lallana, Ox, Woodburn
Salah,Firmino,Mane, Shaqiri, Sturridge, Solanke, Brewster

Healthy squad but I think we will definitely be buy 1 or two more players before the window is out if we manage to shift 5 or so of the lot mentioned above

Why would we sell Wijnaldum for £20m in this crazy inflated market when they paid £25m for him and he played 49 games last season?

He is in no way "dross" and will get games this season. Good player for us.

Lallana is also a quality player who was one of our best players in 16/17 but had a bad season in 17/18 due to injuries. He could be very good to us after a full pre-season and hopefully no injuries.

Also, I don't rate Moreno at all but he should not be sold until we have better cover for Robertson at LB.

Finally, who the hell is Allinson?

Agent Coulson

I wouldn't be selling Gini, Lallana or Moreno.

Ings, Mig, Ward and Markovic if they can find a buyer for him alright.


Sturridge and Origi if the right offers came in to either loan or buy.

Dickerty

charolais0153 wrote: »

Off ypur rocker...20 million for mignolet? Ward has potential. Mingolet is around the scene a while now and is proven to be middling at best. 8-10 million would be excellent business

Sorry, that's nonsense. You can barely buy a teenager from the Championship for £8M.

Migs is a very experienced GK with 6-8 years left, and is still better than most mid-tier keepers. In this imminent GK merry-go-round, he's got a place to land...

Dickerty

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I wouldn't be selling Gini, Lallana or Moreno.

Ings, Mig, Ward and Markovic if they can find a buyer for him alright.

Sturridge and Origi if the right offers came in to either loan or buy.

Agree, but Origi won't go on loan with a year left.

rob316

Are we going to win the net spend trophy again after outgoings!

Harry Palmr

West Ham spending money like a sailor on shore leave - again. Wonder do they fancy a quickie and a ciggie with Sturridge?

Dickerty

Harry Palmr wrote: »

West Ham spending money like a sailor on shore leave - again. Wonder do they fancy a quickie and a ciggie with Sturridge?

Who would take a risk given how his last loan spell went? Could only imagine it being another loan, which is a waste of time for me. Would rather he stayed and we use him when fit...

MarkY91

Dickerty wrote: »

Sorry, that's nonsense. You can barely buy a teenager from the Championship for £8M.

Migs is a very experienced GK with 6-8 years left, and is still better than most mid-tier keepers. In this imminent GK merry-go-round, he's got a place to land...

I agree with you 100% but how did we manage to get Shaqiri so cheap? His fee is nothing these days.

I'm amazed at how selling ward, a keeper who wouldn't be contributing anything to the squad never mind starting 11 has paid for Shaqiri who I think will be a fan favourite.

SlickRic

Real Madrid :eek:

Agent Coulson

Harry Palmr wrote: »

West Ham spending money like a sailor on shore leave - again. Wonder do they fancy a quickie and a ciggie with Sturridge?

Have they signed a keeper to replace Hart.


Migs could do a very good job for them.

Riesen_Meal

SlickRic wrote: »

Real Madrid :eek:

Nothing dodgy about that, no sireeeee....

Harry Palmr

SlickRic wrote: »

Real Madrid :eek:

Sounds surprising doesn't it? And yet

Di Maria e75
Morata - e20 (admittedly they bought him back for 30)
Illarramendi - e15
Jese - e25
Danilo - e30
Morata - e70,
Ronaldo - e100

and obviously plenty of sub 10m players which all add up.

oddly by far their most expensive buy since 2014 - James they send out on loan.

Dickerty

MarkY91 wrote: »

I agree with you 100% but how did we manage to get Shaqiri so cheap? His fee is nothing these days.

I'm amazed at how selling ward, a keeper who wouldn't be contributing anything to the squad never mind starting 11 has paid for Shaqiri who I think will be a fan favourite.

I think it was a release clause if Stoke got relegated...

MarkY91

Dickerty wrote: »

I think it was a release clause if Stoke got relegated...

Ah I see. Makes sense. I just couldn't understand how we got him so cheap.

yourdeadwright

Can't see why people think Gini will leave he played 48 games last season
This season we are 3 down from the start of last season Can, Phil , Ox and only brought in Keita and Fab, Gini will get loads of games

murpho999

https://twitter.com/richardajkeys/status/1019939970289750017

Richard Keys putting the mockers on us.

In fairness, he's on the wind-up and taking the piss out of himself with his opening of "Here's an early call".

Riesen_Meal

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/features/307704-jose-enrique-exclusive-interview-liverpool

You never realise what can hit you any minute, even as a professional footballer...

I wish José Enrique all the best...

.red.

murpho999 wrote: »

Also, I don't rate Moreno at all but he should not be sold until we have better cover for Robertson at LB.

If we can get £50 for Moreno, I'd take it. The guy is an absolute liability. I wouldn't trust him coming on in injury time and being 3-0 up.
No point in spending €60+ million on a keeper if your gonna have that clown at full back, even in an emergency. Milner is a quality player who can do more than just a job at left back if needed.

murpho999

.red. wrote: »

If we can get £50 for Moreno, I'd take it. The guy is an absolute liability. I wouldn't trust him coming on in injury time and being 3-0 up.
No point in spending €60+ million on a keeper if your gonna have that clown at full back, even in an emergency. Milner is a quality player who can do more than just a job at left back if needed.

Sorry this is wrong.

I think Moreno is awful too but he is a LB. Milner is a midfielder.

He could be on the pitch as a midfielder so how can he be cover for LB.

We need to a have squad depth and need proper cover for each position not just make shifts.

Harry Palmr

Liverpool core players ages

(Alisson 25)
Clyne 27
VVD 27
TAA 19
Lovren 29
Robertson 24
Wiji 27
Milner 30
Ox-Cham 24
Fabinho 24
Keita 23
Hendo 28
Shaqiri 26
Lallana 30
Firmino 26
Salah 26
Mane 26

Looking good for the next 3/4 years, only a few players will need to be offloaded due to decrepitude.

Nerdlingr

Whats the deal with Grujic this year? Any sight or sound of him or are we gonna loan him out again?

.red.

murpho999 wrote: »

Sorry this is wrong.

I think Moreno is awful too but he is a LB. Milner is a midfielder.

He could be on the pitch as a midfielder so how can he be cover for LB.

We need to a have squad depth and need proper cover for each position not just make shifts.

Honestly, if Robertson went off and our only option was to bring Moreno on, I'd rather play with 10 men. The lad is fine beyond the halfway line, he doesn't have the mental capacity to defend and shouldn't be allowed in his own half.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Liverpool core players ages

(Alisson 25)
Clyne 27
VVD 27
TAA 19
Lovren 29
Robertson 24
Wiji 27
Milner 30
Ox-Cham 24
Fabinho 24
Keita 23
Hendo 28
Shaqiri 26
Lallana 30
Firmino 26
Salah 26
Mane 26

Looking good for the next 3/4 years, only a few players will need to be offloaded due to decrepitude.

James Milner only wishes he was 30!

Harry Palmr

Cardiff want him back for the season, apparently his agent would like to shop him about for a deal (for the obvious reason!)

Dickerty

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Cardiff want him back for the season, apparently his agent would like to shop him about for a deal (for the obvious reason!)

Makes sense, he would settle quickly, and play at a PL level. But I wonder if he could learn more from training with Milner, Fabinho, Keita?

Agent Coulson

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Liverpool core players ages

(Alisson 25)
Clyne 27
VVD 27
TAA 19
Lovren 29
Robertson 24
Wiji 27
Milner 30
Ox-Cham 24
Fabinho 24
Keita 23
Hendo 28
Shaqiri 26
Lallana 30
Firmino 26
Salah 26
Mane 26

Looking good for the next 3/4 years, only a few players will need to be offloaded due to decrepitude.

Most of Klopp's signing all have 5/6 years as well with no buyout clause and most are coming into the peak years of their careers.


That is an amazing job by FSG.

Fromvert

There's only two positions that we can let players leave from without others coming in. We're just not covered enough in defence and midfield to allow exits.

GK - Alisson, Karius, Mignolet, Ward
Attackers - Salah, Mane, Firmino, Shaqiri, Solanke, Origi, Sturridge, Ings

Two from the keepers and two from the attackers, possibly three.

I'm not counting these the likes of , Markovic (not good enough), Woodburn (prove it), Brewster (injured for half the season/prove it) etc

facehugger99

If Ward is worth 12 million in this market, then I can only assume Salah would cost over 500 beseventy quadzillion.

Riesen_Meal

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/global/articles/alisson-becker-this-is-for-my-brother


This a good read about our incoming keeper...

Vicxas

Wonder if he'll be unveiled against Blackburn?

Dickerty

Fieldog wrote: »

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/global/articles/alisson-becker-this-is-for-my-brother

This a good read about our incoming keeper...

Why do he and his brother have girls' names?

Sofa Spud

Vicxas wrote: »

Wonder if he'll be unveiled against Blackburn?

Apparently the first game he is expected to start will be the Dublin match.

Utopia Parkway

Seems Hendo wanted to come back a week early from his holidays but Klopp is making him take the full 3 weeks off until August 5. Trent might be allowed back a week early though.

Dickerty

Sofa Spud wrote: »

Apparently the first game he is expected to start will be the Dublin match.

Yeh I saw that! How brilliant will that be, probably the first game that we can play out first choice XI! I'll be there!

Eircom_Sucks

Any updates if alisson passed medical ? Or whats happening now ? When will the deal be officially announced

giveitholly

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Seems Hendo wanted to come back a week early from his holidays but Klopp is making him take the full 3 weeks off until August 5. Trent might be allowed back a week early though.

Fair play to klopp in one way,knows there will be a long season and wants his players who played deep into the world Cup to get a break

yourdeadwright

Anyone think we will sign anyone else ?

marklazarcovic

Think we are done, don't see fekir joining now