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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2018
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Klopp on being a hypocrite
Klopp on spending big £££: "I couldn't imagine that the world would change completely a few years ago. My responsibility is for this club to be as successful as possible."
https://twitter.com/JamesPearceEcho/status/1020757618653003776Klopp: "Did I change my opinion? Yes. It's better to change your opinion than not have one at all."
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Agent Coulson wrote: »
That’ll send the United thread into oblivion again.
I’ve been following it on and off this summer and they’ve spoken more about Klopp than their own transfer dealings (or lack thereof). And when someone calls them out on it, they call us obsessed. :pac:0 -
martyos121 wrote: »That’ll send the United thread into oblivion again.
I’ve been following it on and off this summer and they’ve spoken more about Klopp than their own transfer dealings (or lack thereof). And when someone calls them out on it, they call us obsessed. :pac:
Short memories"We're not like other clubs who can spend fortunes on proven goods"
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Yes to an extent, but we've already seen that Klopp doesn't really operate like that... when Milner is a midfielder, he trains as a midfielder, and plays as a midfielder. He's not considered a fullback. And when he played as a fullback, he trained as a fullback, and wasn't considered a midfield option.
Which makes sense, as so much of the work they do in training is personally tailored to what they'll be doing on the field... it's not as simple as just giving a lad a run out in another position. Sure, it's a short term solution in a pinch, but Klopp clearly likes to have players with fairly well defined tasks.
So i can't see us selling Clyne unless another full back is coming in.
Klopp said this about Fabinho after he was unveiled:”He has ability and mentality to play at the highest level in a number of positions. He can play ‘6’, ‘8’ and ‘2’. This is cool.”
That suggests to me that he’s willing to move him around a bit if the situation requires it. I don’t believe he sees him as a rotation right back just to be clear, but a lot depends on how Gomez is used this coming season. My preference would be TAA starting, Clyne sold if the proceeds are reinvested in this window or the next, Gomez operating at centre back full time if he actually does have the ability to compete with Lovren, and Fabinho filling in at right back when needed.
He’s an absolutely terrific right back by the way, I’ve seen him play there for Monaco a couple of seasons ago and anyone else who also has will tell you how well he plays that role. It’s actually his natural position and where he started out in his career, so to put it as “giving a lad a run out in another position” is very dismissive of what he can do there. It’s a lot more than a “short term solution in a pinch” to be fair. I know what you mean about Klopp and defined roles and agree to an extent, but he’s not as rigid as you’re making out. He played Gini at centre back against Brighton for gods sake! 0 -
martyos121 wrote: »He’s an absolutely terrific right back by the way, I’ve seen him play there for Monaco a couple of seasons ago and anyone else who also has will tell you how well he plays that role. It’s actually his natural position and where he started out in his career, so to put it as “giving a lad a run out in another position” is very dismissive of what he can do there. It’s a lot more than a “short term solution in a pinch” to be fair. I know what you mean about Klopp and defined roles and agree to an extent, but he’s not as rigid as you’re making out. He played Gini at centre back against Brighton for gods sake!
You're pretty much ignoring the context of my comments... his ability in that position is irrelevant to my point (just as Milner being brilliant at LB doesn't change the fact that when he's training as a CM, he's only seen as a CM). I'm not dismissing his quality as a right back, i'm saying that, as with Milner, he will be training day in day out in one role, with the expectation of playing in that role primarily.
And your example of Gini at CB is a perfect example of what i'm saying - he used him there in a pinch as a solution to a problem. I would not be at all surprised to see Fabinho play at RB at times under the same circumstances, but that's a different thing to him actually being seen as a RB in the squad. And if he does end up playing regularly at RB, then he won't be seen as a CM anymore for that time - which leaves us light there once more.
I would just be surprised and disappointed if Klopp left the squad with only TAA as specialized RB, needing to move players who don't train in that position day in day out to take over if something goes wrong.0 -
You're pretty much ignoring the context of my comments... his ability in that position is irrelevant to my point (just as Milner being brilliant at LB doesn't change the fact that when he's training as a CM, he's only seen as a CM). I'm not dismissing his quality as a right back, i'm saying that, as with Milner, he will be training day in day out in one role, with the expectation of playing in that role primarily.
And your example of Gini at CB is a perfect example of what i'm saying - he used him there in a pinch as a solution to a problem. I would not be at all surprised to see Fabinho play at RB at times under the same circumstances, but that's a different thing to him actually being seen as a RB in the squad. And if he does end up playing regularly at RB, then he won't be seen as a CM anymore for that time - which leaves us light there once more.
I would just be surprised and disappointed if Klopp left the squad with only TAA as specialized RB, needing to move players who don't train in that position day in day out to take over if something goes wrong.
I’m not ignoring your comments or the context in which they were posted, I’m simply disagreeing with some of them. If you go back to the quote from Klopp I posted, it suggests that Fabinho will be used in various roles regardless of what position he trains in primarily. All we can do is wait and see how he’s deployed during the season. If Clyne does leave, I’d be shocked if we don’t see Fabinho in at right back on at least a few occasions. As much as I think selling Clyne wouldn’t be a huge mistake, I think it’s still very likely he’ll stay put anyway.
Just on the bolded part, I strongly agree with a good portion of that. I also don’t think he’s going to be seen primarily as a right back, nor do I think he’s going to be playing at right back regularly (barring an injury crisis). I’m not worried about us being light in midfield though, it was proven last season we can cope with limited options in midfield as long as the forward line stays intact. Worst case scenario (if Clyne leaves); TAA and Gomez are injured, Fabinho fills in at RB, but Keita and Lallana are also injured. We can still make up a very good midfield three in Milner, Wijnaldum and Hendo (as long as either Hendo or Gini are fit at any point, we can field a functioning middle three). It’d have to be a full on injury crisis for any more players to be ruled out for any one match. We’ll be fine, and if we aren’t, such an injury crisis isn’t something you can prepare for. Then the likes of Curtis Jones and Rafa Camacho are looked at, depending on how they get on in the next few weeks.
Again, I’d only want to see Clyne moved on if Klopp could afford to do so, as well as using the funds generated (I’d like to think between £18-30m at least given he’s English and a solid defender) to go some way towards a talented, versatile attacker/number 10. Basically, I’d let go of Clyne if it meant signing Fekir or a player of similar quality. I think as a whole, the squad would benefit from a change like that. I’ll trust Klopp with whatever ins and outs he sanctions though, I’m done with doubting anything he does.
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That's brilliant, the shouts from the supportes.
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