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2018-19 UEFA Champions League

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  • #852
    The Talking Bread
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    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056447369

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056069484

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057787449&page=16


  • #853
    Niles Crane
    Closed Accounts Posts: 537 ✭✭✭Niles Crane


    irishman86 wrote: »
    Like i said yawn, sure take away all Ronaldos aspects and Messi is defo better than him
    What a stupid point

    I didn't say take away all of Ronaldo's aspects I said take away his goals.

    However seeing as you have interpreted his goals as all of his aspects you've essentially proved the point I was making.


  • #854
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Niles Crane wrote: »
    I didn't say take away all of Ronaldo's aspects I said take away his goals.

    However seeing as you have interpreted his goals as all of his aspects you've essentially proved the point I was making.

    But why would you consider the "take his goals away" comment as being credible way to dismiss him? Sure if you gave a big lumbering Tony Cascarino circa 660 goals in 630 career games at the highest level of the game, he would be an all time great footballer too.

    This "take away his goals and..........." comment is just a pointless way to take a dig at him (which you clearly are doing)

    That's like saying take away De Gea's ability to save a ball and he is not a great keeper! It really is as stupid as that. Messi would be a pretty ineffective striker if he didn't score and make these "misleading assists" you refer to also.

    Christ I hate these stupid Messi v Ronaldo debates!


  • #855
    Niles Crane
    Closed Accounts Posts: 537 ✭✭✭Niles Crane


    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    But why would you consider the "take his goals away" comment as being credible way to dismiss him? Sure if you gave a big lumbering Tony Cascarino circa 660 goals in 630 career games at the highest level of the game, he would be an all time great footballer too.

    This "take away his goals and..........." comment is just a pointless way to take a dig at him (which you clearly are doing)

    That's like saying take away De Gea's ability to save a ball and he is not a great keeper! It really is as stupid as that. Messi would be a pretty ineffective striker if he didn't score and make these "misleading assists" you refer to also.

    Christ I hate these stupid Messi v Ronaldo debates!

    But that's exactly the point Messi is much more than a striker so although if he didn't score many goals he wouldn't be that great a striker he'd still be a great player.

    Zidane barely scored 10 goals a season and it doesn't stop him being an all time great player.

    Ronaldo is a great striker and one of the best of all time but his overall game is well behind Messi's.

    Messi is the complete attacking player and has a lot more to his game than Ronaldo.Messi as a player is like Zidane combined with Ronaldo.


  • #856
    irishman86
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    Niles Crane wrote: »
    But that's exactly the point Messi is much more than a striker so although if he didn't score many goals he wouldn't be that great a striker he'd still be a great player.

    Zidane barely scored 10 goals a season and it doesn't stop him being an all time great player.

    Ronaldo is a great striker and one of the best of all time but his overall game is well behind Messi's.

    Messi is the complete attacking player and has a lot more to his game than Ronaldo.Messi as a player is like Zidane combined with Ronaldo.

    The latest argument because Ronaldo keeps winning balon dors :pac::pac:
    Ronaldo is a better defender than Messi lets talk about that


  • #857
    Niles Crane
    Closed Accounts Posts: 537 ✭✭✭Niles Crane


    irishman86 wrote: »
    The latest argument because Ronaldo keeps winning balon dors :pac::pac:
    Ronaldo is a better defender than Messi lets talk about that

    Not sure what you're talking about to be honest.

    It's quite obvious that Messi's overall game over the years is superior to Ronaldo's.


  • #858
    snowblind
    Registered Users Posts: 972 ✭✭✭snowblind


    Neither them is near as good as Bendtner so why even argue


  • #859
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,926 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    French authorities, acting on a UEFA tip, are reportedly investigating possible match-fixing in PSG’s recent 6-1 thrashing of Red Star Belgrade in the Champions League. One of Red Star’s senior figures supposedly tried to bet millions of Euros on the Serbs losing by 5 goals. #UCL

    https://twitter.com/jon_legossip/status/1050764006905040896


  • #860
    Mr.Nice Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    I remember watching that 6-1 game. Didn't detect anything suspicious but it's so easy to fool people if there's a will to do so. I do recall hearing that Red Star had a run of 30+ games unbeaten before that game, and if (big if) these allegations are true, it makes you wonder about that too.


  • #861
    Loafing Oaf
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    Wrong thread


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  • #862
    Harry Palmr
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    Not sure how you could engineer a 5 goal defeat.


  • #863
    gimli2112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    Not sure how you could engineer a 5 goal defeat.

    Was it not 5 goals or more? You could but you'd want a fair few payers in on it. Sounds unlikely. If they beat us 4-0 at Anfield I'll be real suspicious.


  • #864
    citytillidie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,287 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Match Day 3
    Tuesday 5:55pm Kick-off
    Group E
    AEK Athens (GRE) V Bayern München (GER) - Live on BT Sport 1 / VM1

    Group H
    Young Boys (SUI) V Valencia (ESP) - Live on BT Sport ESPN

    8pm Kick-offs
    Group E
    Ajax (NED) V Benfica (POR) - Live on BT Sport Extra 2

    Group F
    Hoffenheim (GER) V Lyon (FRA) - Live on BT Sport Extra 4
    Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) V Manchester City (ENG) - Live on BT Sport 3

    Group G
    Roma (ITA) V CSKA Moskva (RUS) - Live on BT Sport Extra 3
    Real Madrid (ESP) V Viktoria Plzeň (CZE) - Live on BT Sport ESPN

    Group H
    Manchester United (ENG) V Juventus (ITA) - Live on BT Sport 2 / RTE 2

    Wednesday 5:55pm Kick-offs
    Group A
    Club Brugge (BEL) V Monaco (FRA) - Live on BT Sport 1

    Group B
    PSV Eindhoven (NED) V Tottenham Hotspur (ENG) - Live on BT Sport 3

    8pm Kick-offs
    Group A
    Borussia Dortmund (GER) V Atlético Madrid (ESP) - Live on BT Sport Extra 2

    Group B
    Barcelona (ESP) V Internazionale Milano (ITA) - Live on BT Sport ESPN

    Group C
    Liverpool (ENG) V Crvena zvezda (SRB) - Live on BT Sport 2
    Paris Saint-Germain (FRA) V Napoli (ITA) - Live on BT Sport 3

    Group D
    Lokomotiv Moskva (RUS) V Porto (POR) - Live on BT Sport Extra 5
    Galatasaray (TUR) V Schalke (GER) - Live on BT Sport Extra 4

    ******



  • #865
    ERG89
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    Wish some of the games on Wednesday were on Tuesday instead. PSG vs Napoli, Dortmund vs Atletico & Inter vs Barca all on at the same time :rolleyes:


  • #866
    Godot.
    Registered Users Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Godot.


    Not many people in Ireland are going to watch AEK vs Bayern. They need a re-think for next year... revert back to both free to air channels get games on 8PM on Tuesday/Wednesday.


  • #867
    Mr.Nice Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Team news for the early kick-off:
    AEK Athens XI: Barkas; Bakakis, Lampropoulos, Chygrynskiy, Hult; Galanopoulos, Simoes; Bakasetas, Klonaridis, Mantalos; Ponce.

    Bayern XI: Neuer; Kimmich, Süle, Hummels, Rafinha; Javi Martinez, Thiago; Robben, James, Gnabry; Lewandowski.
    Young Boys XI: Wölfli; Mbabu, Lauper, Von Bergen, Benito; Fassnacht, Sow, Sanogo, Sulejmani; Assale, Hoarau.

    Valencia XI: Neto; Piccini, Diakhaby, Gabriel, Gaya; Carlos Soler, Parejo, Kondogbia, Ferran Torres; Rodrigo, Batshuayi.

    Big game for Valencia. Can't afford to drop points if they want to keep pressure on Juve and United.


  • #868
    eagle eye
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    I'm expecting two convincing away wins. It's very important for both Valencia and Bayern to pick up 3 points tonight.


  • #869
    Harry Palmr
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    Watching this on saorview is an appalling experience - the cheapest "babe channel" has a better picture quality.


  • #870
    Mr.Nice Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Batshuayi rounds the keeper and scores to give Valencia the lead. Nice McGregor celebration.


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  • #871
    extra gravy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,654 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Is that the same Chygrynskiy that had the big money move to Barca that time?


  • #872
    Mr.Nice Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    extra gravy wrote: »
    Is that the same Chygrynskiy that had the big money move to Barca that time?

    Think so. I'd forgotten about that spell he had there.

    Bayern very disappointing in the final third. Everything breaking down.


  • #873
    Mr.Nice Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Young Boys equalise from the spot via Hoarau. They've started the half well. Poor challenge from Parejo to concede the pen.


  • #874
    ERG89
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    Wonder how far the top teams would have to drop for Bayern to be at their level right now. They've been shocking so far.


  • #875
    Mr.Nice Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Bayern finally get their goal thanks to Javi Martinez and then Lewandowski gets a second practically straight after. Two goals in quick succession which surely ends Athens' hopes. All their work tonight undone that fast.


  • #876
    extra gravy
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    Such bad defending after all their efforts.


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  • #877
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,858 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Just discovered the existence of bt sport/Espn. How much football have I previously missed on this channel?


  • #878
    Iused2likebusts
    Registered Users Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    Has Ronaldo had work done.


  • #879
    Mr.Nice Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Young Boys vs Valencia ends 1-1. That eases pressure on United's game later.


  • #880
    jbt123
    Registered Users Posts: 861 ✭✭✭jbt123


    Iused2likebusts wrote: »
    Has Ronaldo had work done.

    I'd say his lawyers are quite busy around the place.....


  • #881
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    What was on in OT recently that there's extra lines painted?

    Edit super league final was it ?


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  • #882
    Mr.Nice Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Lyon should be 1-0 up. Fantastic back-heel assist from Ndombele but Traore hits it wide.


  • #883
    dmc17
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    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    What was on in OT recently that there's extra lines painted?

    Edit super league final was it ?

    Rugby League Super League Grand Final


  • #884
    Berserker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    Why did Juve get such a big ticket allocation for the game?


  • #885
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,661 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    RTE player is the biggest piece of laggy crap.


  • #886
    Mr.Nice Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Dybala makes it 1-0 Juve. Ronaldo assist.


  • #887
    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Whoopa! Poor from Smalling


  • #888
    Berserker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    United could be in trouble here. Juve looking very tidy so far.


  • #889
    Lackey
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    Berserker wrote: »
    United could be in trouble here. Juve looking very tidy so far.

    Utd have been in trouble for a long time :(

    Haven't been following them or even Ireland much, putting my ''I'm not a fair weather fan' mantra to the test.


  • #890
    Harry Palmr
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    Utd have no clue, juventus have as much time and space as they need to move the ball.

    What's the story of the grey lines every 10 yards or so?


  • #891
    Mr.Nice Guy
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    Shaw is so out of his depth it's painful. Juve getting massive joy down that flank.


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  • #892
    Agent Coulson
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    Boys vs Men in Manchester.


    Was there a rugby or American football game played on that pitch?


  • #893
    Mr.Nice Guy
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    Traore has given Lyon the lead at Hoffenheim after a bad defensive error from Vogt.

    Update: lead didn't last long. Kramaric has equalised from close range. 1-1.


  • #894
    eigrod
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    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    Shaw is so out of his depth it's painful. Juve getting massive joy down that flank.

    He is very poor...and overweight


  • #895
    extra gravy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,654 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    Boys vs Men in Manchester.


    Was there a rugby or American football game played on that pitch?

    Rugby league at the weekend


  • #896
    gimli2112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    Boys vs Men in Manchester.


    Was there a rugby or American football game played on that pitch?

    Rugby League grand final was on 13th, you think it would have been cleaned up by now.


  • #897
    blueser
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    2-0. Laporte. No more than we deserve. We've battered Shaktar so far;hit the post, had one cleared off the line, squandered several decent opportunities.


  • #898
    marvin80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭marvin80


    eigrod wrote: »
    He is very poor...and overweight

    Made sense to give him a whopper 5-year deal :D


  • #899
    Berserker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    Utd have no clue, juventus have as much time and space as they need to move the ball.

    What's the story of the grey lines every 10 yards or so?

    Think there was a rugby league final played there last weekend.


  • #900
    Porthallian
    Registered Users Posts: 2,359 ✭✭✭Porthallian


    marvin80 wrote: »
    Made sense to give him a whopper 5-year deal :D

    He's been United's best player this season


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  • #901
    Mr.Nice Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    United are getting slapped around here by Juve. Goes to show what happens when you reward mediocrity.


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