2018-19 UEFA Champions League

The Golden Miller · 13-02-2019 9:29pm

Ajax all over Madrid so far, just hit the crossbar too

Mr.Nice Guy · 13-02-2019 9:39pm

Big save from Courtois.

And two minutes later he spills it! 1-0 Ajax.

ERG89 · 13-02-2019 9:40pm

If Madrid played like this against Atletico it paints a very grim picture of Atletico right now.
1-0 Ajax they could have 1 or 2 more by now.

The Golden Miller · 13-02-2019 9:40pm

Ajax through on goal and miss a 1 on 1. Now just scored. All over Madrid. Could have had a couple

The Golden Miller · 13-02-2019 9:42pm

The officials here to save Madrid as usual

The Golden Miller · 13-02-2019 9:43pm

That's robbery. Makes your blood boil

Johner · 13-02-2019 9:43pm

Not a hope that would have been disallowed if Madrid scored that.

Mr.Nice Guy · 13-02-2019 9:44pm

Goal has been ruled out. Think that's very harsh. Courtois didn't react in the moment as if he felt he'd been hard done by.

The Golden Miller · 13-02-2019 9:45pm

Johner wrote: »

Not a hope that would have been disallowed if Madrid scored that.

Same old story. Always huge calls in big moments going Madrids way. Every year in nearly every game

Rezident · 13-02-2019 9:47pm

Football is so corrupt. Ajax playing brilliantly, score a perfectly good goal but of course Madrid have to win in the CL for their sponsors or whatever. No wonder they win it every year, and it's certainly not with their football, Madrid have been poor, again. Not that it matters.

Rezident · 13-02-2019 9:49pm

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Same old story. Always huge calls in big moments going Madrids way. Every year in nearly every game

So true, Madrid have actually been playing rubbish for the last few years, but they don't need to play well when they own the refs and the politicians running football.

The Golden Miller · 13-02-2019 9:51pm

Ajax battering Madrid at half time, but UEFA seem intent on getting Madrid through again.

Rezident · 13-02-2019 9:52pm

The Golden Miller wrote: »

The officials here to save Madrid as usual

It is such a shame that the CL has been cheapened with the pro-madrid cheating the last few years. It's beyond a joke now. I thought they way they cheated Bayern was bad but now it's just risible. The Madrid players must be embarrassed.

AdamD · 13-02-2019 9:54pm

Had to search for the goal after reading this thread. Was expecting something outrageous, instead its an obvious and correct decision..

Quazzie · 13-02-2019 10:00pm

How is it offside. It was a header on goal and the Ajax player wasn't interfering with Courtouis getting back to the goal line so how was he interfering with play. Absolute nonsense.

shocksy · 13-02-2019 10:01pm

AdamD wrote: »

Had to search for the goal after reading this thread. Was expecting something outrageous, instead its an obvious and correct decision..

A couple of people in here need to dry their eyes. Correct decision was made by officials.

The Golden Miller · 13-02-2019 10:02pm

Quazzie wrote: »

How is it offside. It was a header on goal and the Ajax player wasn't interfering with Courtouis getting back to the goal line so how was he interfering with play. Absolute nonsense.

Had it been at the other end, VAR wouldn't even have been suggested

irishguitarlad · 13-02-2019 10:03pm

Just saw it, ridiculous decision. On a side note, I never knew that Steve Nash(NBA legend)does football analysis.

citytillidie · 13-02-2019 10:03pm

Just seeing that Ajax goal, Ajax player when the ball was headed was offside and blocking the keeper so yes it was the correct call. Just going to have to get used to this VAR.

The Golden Miller · 13-02-2019 10:05pm

Keeper wouldn't of even got it regardless

Quazzie · 13-02-2019 10:07pm

citytillidie wrote: »

Just seeing that Ajax goal, Ajax player when the ball was headed was offside and blocking the keeper so yes it was the correct call. Just going to have to get used to this VAR.

What was he blocking the keeper from doing?

citytillidie · 13-02-2019 10:07pm

Bit of a jump there on BT having the commentary from the Ajax game on the Spurs game

AdamD · 13-02-2019 10:08pm

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Keeper wouldn't of even got it regardless

Which is irrelevant

Lads he literally touched the keeper, that's interfering with play.

citytillidie · 13-02-2019 10:09pm

Quazzie wrote: »

What was he blocking the keeper from doing?

From the quick view i seen looked like the keeper was trying to get to the ball, it was given as offside it was offside so the right call was made. Without VAR it would have stood 99% of the time

The Golden Miller · 13-02-2019 10:11pm

AdamD wrote: »

Which is irrelevant

Not really interfering with play then

Quazzie · 13-02-2019 10:14pm

citytillidie wrote: »

From the quick view i seen looked like the keeper was trying to get to the ball, it was given as offside it was offside so the right call was made. Without VAR it would have stood 99% of the time

He was interfering with the keeper getting to the ball but that was from the save. So he can't be offside from that. From the header (when he could be offside) he wasn't interfering with the keeper at all. It's an incorrect call. The offside can only be giving from the moment the header occurs. As the ball wasn't traveling forward before that. When the header occurred he wasn't interfering with the keeper.

First use of VAR and it's a wrong call

Fromvert · 13-02-2019 10:15pm

He was in an offside position when the scoring header was struck. He stopped the keeper from coming out, he was interfering with play. Was a good decision.

Quazzie · 13-02-2019 10:15pm

AdamD wrote: »

Which is irrelevant

Lads he literally touched the keeper, that's interfering with play.

But that wasn't after a forward pass. That was from the save. After every forward pass in that move there was no interfering at all

Quazzie · 13-02-2019 10:16pm

Fromvert wrote: »

He stopped the keeper from coming out when in an offside position, he was interfering with play. Was a good decision

How can he be offside when the last recent play was a save from the keeper and the ball was traveling away from goal.

ERG89 · 13-02-2019 10:17pm

Madrid will be delighted with the VAR talk as it's hiding quite a poor performance. They are fortunate this Ajax side are very green at this level.

Fromvert · 13-02-2019 10:18pm

Quazzie wrote: »

How can he be offside when the last recent play was a save from the keeper and the ball was traveling away from goal.

When the ball was headed towards goal he was offside, you can be offside when a shot is taken, he was standing in front of the keeper. He affected the keepers ability to save/see it.

citytillidie · 13-02-2019 10:19pm

Quazzie wrote: »

How can he be offside when the last recent play was a save from the keeper and the ball was traveling away from goal.

He was offside when the ball was headed forward towards goal and standing right in front of the keeper

Quazzie · 13-02-2019 10:20pm

Fromvert wrote: »

When the ball was headed towards goal he was offside, you can be offside when a shot is taken, he was standing in front of the keeper. He affected the keepers ability.

The keepers ability to do what? He was in front of the keeper and the ball was above him. There was no interfering after the header

Mr.Nice Guy · 13-02-2019 10:21pm

Benzema with a great finish after nice work from Vinicius.

Fromvert · 13-02-2019 10:22pm

Quazzie wrote: »

The keepers ability to do what? He was in front of the keeper and the ball was above him. There was no interfering after the header

To react to the header, whether he could get it or not. I'm sure it'll come out whether it was the right call or not so we'll know for sure soon enough.

Mr.Nice Guy · 13-02-2019 10:37pm

1-1! Ziyech levels the tie.

Mr.Nice Guy · 13-02-2019 10:48pm

Asensio makes it 2-1.

Johner · 13-02-2019 10:50pm

Var in favour of Real Madrid, there's a surprise.

De Jong looked to be bundled over in the build up there.

LuckyGent88 · 13-02-2019 10:53pm

Just how do Real get the decisions in there favour every fecking year. They just have a gift for it.

Great result for Spurs. Dortmund were much the better team in first half. At least can go and concentrate on the league now and stop the Bayern winning run.

Edit: massive chance missed by Dolberg. Great move from Ajax.

citytillidie · 13-02-2019 10:55pm

Last 16 1st Leg Results
Manchester United (ENG) 0 V 2 Paris (FRA)
Roma (ITA) 2 V 1 Porto (POR)
Ajax (NED) 1 V 2 Real Madrid (ESP)
Tottenham Hotspur (ENG) 3 V 0 Borussia Dortmund (GER)

monkey9 · 13-02-2019 11:10pm

Saw the Ajax disallowed goal. Not sure what everyone is complaining about, it's the correct decision. Yeah, it would have stood if VAR wasn't in place but it is and it was correctly disallowed.

jacool · 13-02-2019 11:16pm

monkey9 wrote: »

Saw the Ajax disallowed goal. Not sure what everyone is complaining about, it's the correct decision. Yeah, it would have stood if VAR wasn't in place but it is and it was correctly disallowed.

How come VAR didn't see Vasquez rugby tackle an Ajax midfielder to the ground in the build up to Asensio's goal?

VAR= Videos Advancing Real

Paully D · 13-02-2019 11:34pm

I admittedly haven’t seen too much of him, but if Foyth plays at that standard on a consistent basis then that’s some player Spurs have on their hands.

He was immense tonight.

monkey9 · 13-02-2019 11:37pm

jacool wrote: »

How come VAR didn't see Vasquez rugby tackle an Ajax midfielder to the ground in the build up to Asensio's goal?

VAR= Videos Advancing Real

Nah i wouldn't be disallowing the goal because of that, the same way they were right not to go to Var for a potential foul in the build it up to the Ajax goal.

NIMAN · 13-02-2019 11:39pm

When it was announced VAR was coming in, I heard a few folk say, "that's Real Madrid beat now".

And now apparently they are using VAR to cheat as well.

They can't win.

The Golden Miller · 14-02-2019 12:08am

monkey9 wrote: »

Nah i wouldn't be disallowing the goal because of that, the same way they were right not to go to Var for a potential foul in the build it up to the Ajax goal.

Why not? This is the point really, you can find a tedious technicality to disallow most goals, it's just Madrid seem to get all the 50/50 calls. Ever since Madrid won their first Champions League in their recent 4 out of 5 wins, there's been major calls in many of their knock-out games every year at crucial moments, which have changed the dynamic of the whole tie. These things normally even themselves out, but rightly or wrongly, Madrid have come out on top in all of those major calls at crucial moments, the Bayern game in 17 being a complete farce. Fixed or not, it's getting ridiculous at this stage, that you know there will be a crucial moment that's at least 50/50, and everytime it will go in Madrid's favour and turn the tie

Shanotheslayer · 14-02-2019 12:31am

Is it 50/50 if it always goes in Madrid's favour ? :P

eagle eye · 14-02-2019 12:35am

Deleted User wrote:

Oh true.
But if they won 2 games in a row, your contention that "the results would put them in contention for winning the league if they kept it up for a full season" would be just as valid. And to think you accused me of "stupid comments"!

Anyway, I see you don't really want to set out the teams they beat in their recent good run. I'll retain my opinion that they are lazy and overpaid based on what preceded that run, and what reappeared last night, you are perfectly entitled to disagree. It's all about opinions.

Well the only reason I got involved was to tell you how stupid your attempt to wind up United fans was.
It was and still is a pathetic post.

MisterAnarchy · 14-02-2019 1:00am

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Just how do Real get the decisions in there favour every fecking year. They just have a gift for it.

A gift indeed

Arghus · 14-02-2019 1:13am

jacool wrote: »

How come VAR didn't see Vasquez rugby tackle an Ajax midfielder to the ground in the build up to Asensio's goal?

VAR= Videos Advancing Real

I felt bad for Ajax tonight, they played really well and deserved to win the match. I hope they can take heart from the quality of their performance and believe they can pull something off in the second leg. I've no love for Real Madrid, but....

Thought the decision for the VAR disallowed goal was marginal but the correct one. He's marginally offside - which is to say he's offside - and he's definitely impeding the keeper. Correct call. Whether it would have been given if Real had scored it is unanswerable whataboutery. It's fun to go on about UEFA conspiracies and all, but that was a correct decision.

As for the "rugby tackle" I saw it more as an attempt by the Ajax player to prevent the run of the Real Madrid player and, if anything, could have been a free for Madrid. The Madrid player was trying to get forward and the Ajax midfielder was doing his best to prevent him running past. There honestly wasn't much in it - to have called it back there for a foul would have been ridiculous.

2018-19 UEFA Champions League

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