2018-19 UEFA Champions League

yourdeadwright

ebbsy wrote: »

City are favourites ? Show me the European pedigree to back it up ?

If your a good side you can win it, the present matter more then the past

Liverpool , United , Porto , Ajax all have more European pedigree but City would be favourite and rightly so if they drew any of them ,

Juve and Barca would be tougher draw for them but they are both currently very good sides

jayo26

jayo26 wrote: »

I think you have a bit of an obsession with Fred mate the way you continue to say your going to ignore him and even tho he is not replying to you your still trying get his attention.

Pretty obvious others do at this stage from all the references to him and cheap shots calling him out by a number of posters.

I've ignored him continuously and chosen not to engage.
But continues to overreact to anything I post and take pot shots and call them childish and then thanks this post in the same thread. The irony of it.



Then have the nerve to say I'm throwing the toys our the pram

dundalkfc10

niallo27 wrote: »

Bollox man, Anfield on an European night against utd, would be ****en rocking. I'm sure the same for old Trafford. Have you been to a proper European night at Anfield.

It would be rocking, but wouldnt come close to 90% of European Grounds!

GavRedKing

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

It would be rocking, but wouldnt come close to 90% of European Grounds!

Thats a bit of a stretch and a tad bit hyperbolic, just a tad.

For research purposes, name 90% of the grounds better, we'll wait.

GavRedKing

ebbsy wrote: »

City are favourites ? Show me the European pedigree to back it up ?

They've probably the most balanced squad left in it and the best manager.

My favourites would be :

City, Juve, Barca, Pool, Utd, Spurs, Ajax, Porto.

Theres very little separating the first 6 though, apart from the odd Messi and Ronaldo.

yourdeadwright

Fred The Red wrote: »

I've ignored him continuously and chosen not to engage.
But continues to overreact to anything I post and take pot shots and call them childish and then thanks this post in the same thread. The irony of it.



Then have the nerve to say I'm throwing the toys our the pram

No over reaction's , if there was any just point them out,
Someone having another opinion is not a pot shot its a discussion ,

Niallo27 was obviously joking ,

GavRedKing

GavRedKing wrote: »

They've probably the most balanced squad left in it and the best manager.

My favourites would be :

City, Juve, Barca, Pool, Utd, Spurs, Ajax, Porto.

Theres very little separating the first 6 though, apart from the odd Messi and Ronaldo.

Yea but maybe the point he's making is how would they react if faced off against one of the better sides like Barca. I still don't think they could beat them over two legs given the experience Barca have at the latter stages.

yourdeadwright

GavRedKing wrote: »

They've probably the most balanced squad left in it and the best manager.

My favourites would be :

City, Juve, Barca, Pool, Utd, Spurs, Ajax, Porto.

Theres very little separating the first 6 though, apart from the odd Messi and Ronaldo.

I see it the same but i'd put Barca over Juve ,

The issue playing City and Barca is getting hold of the ball ,

I also agree the only difference is Ronaldo and Messi ,


The draw is Huge ,
You could have the first 4 teams you mentioned on the same side of the draw and that would really open it up .

8-10

GavRedKing wrote: »

Theres very little separating the first 6 though, apart from the odd Messi and Mané.

FYP

jayo26

Fred The Red wrote: »

I've ignored him continuously and chosen not to engage.
But continues to overreact to anything I post and take pot shots and call them childish and then thanks this post in the same thread. The irony of it.



Then have the nerve to say I'm throwing the toys our the pram

It's a bit of don't pick on us we will try pick on you.

yourdeadwright

yourdeadwright wrote: »

No over reaction's , if there was any just point them out,
Someone having another opinion is not a pot shot its a discussion ,

Niallo27 was obviously joking ,

You are backtracking because someone else has called you out on it. You are obsessing over anything I post and overreacting every time.
And some of us can actually take a joke.
Imagine I posted that and said "hope Utd get Liverpool as they are the weakest team"
I'd take a guess and say you would have a freak out like alot of the others on here abuse posters and I'd be probably given a red for trolling.
I'm not engaging in discussion with you anymore. For real this time.

Knex*

GavRedKing wrote: »

They've probably the most balanced squad left in it and the best manager.

My favourites would be :

City, Juve, Barca, Pool, Utd, Spurs, Ajax, Porto.

Theres very little separating the first 6 though, apart from the odd Messi and Ronaldo.

Hard to argue with that order.

Definitely think there's 3 clear favourites: City, Juve and Barca.

yourdeadwright

Fred The Red wrote: »

You are backtracking because someone else has called you out on it. You are obsessing over anything I post and overreacting every time.
And some of us can actually take a joke.
Imagine I posted that and said "hope Utd get Liverpool as they are the weakest team"
I'd take a guess and say you would have a freak out like alot of the others on here abuse posters and I'd be probably given a red for trolling.


It's a discussion forum , iv replied to two statement you have made in the last two days ,that i along with others thought where nonsense, i gave my opinion why ,

You make statement constantly and if someone disagrees and explains why you think they are attacking you ,

I have never freaked out at anyone ,
I have never abused anyone.
I don't refuse to speak to anyone who disagrees with me either,
I'm willing to discuss anything iv said, unlike yourself,
Iv no issue with any poster ,
Iv said some of your posts are childish ,

Iv disagreed with many people posts but no one takes it personally like yourself,

Best of luck to you young Sir

GLaDOS

Barca favorites for me, followed by City, Juve then Liverpool. Spurs and United outside bets.

yourdeadwright

jayo26 wrote: »

It's a bit of don't pick on us we will try pick on you.

Strange as seems its just yourself and little aul Fred that have banded together on this tread

I'm me not anyone else , there is no US u speak of,
I also haven't picked on anyone or need any ones else to stand up for my on a football thread

GavRedKing

Fred The Red wrote: »

Yea but maybe the point he's making is how would they react if faced off against one of the better sides like Barca. I still don't think they could beat them over two legs given the experience Barca have at the latter stages.

Barca havent got passed the QFs in the last 3 CL campaigns but I agree with ya, the squad has a lot of experience at the tail end of this competition but I think theres a vulnerability to Barca that a good side will expose.

Saying that though, Messi is a great equaliser, you give him anything and he'll punish you, last night he should have hat a hat trick and nearly set up another 2 goals, admittedly Lyon were very poor apart from 15/20 mins in and around the time they scored but Barca were very clinical right after that and seen it out.

Every potential tie in the next round is fascinating, even Porto V Ajax would be good to have a more of an "under dog" in the last 4.

Trigger

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Strange as seems its just yourself and little aul Fred that have banded together on this tread

I'm me not anyone else , there is no US u speak of,
I also haven't picked on anyone or need any ones else to stand up for my on a football thread

Just an observation but when you sign off posts "but fred the red knows best" do you not see that as attacking the poster and not the post, why is there a need to put shīt like that in a post.. it's pretty condescending and reflects worse on you tbh.

Trigger

GavRedKing wrote: »

Barca havent got passed the QFs in the last 3 CL campaigns but I agree with ya, the squad has a lot of experience at the tail end of this competition but I think theres a vulnerability to Barca that a good side will expose.

Saying that though, Messi is a great equaliser, you give him anything and he'll punish you, last night he should have hat a hat trick and nearly set up another 2 goals, admittedly Lyon were very poor apart from 15/20 mins in and around the time they scored but Barca were very clinical right after that and seen it out.

Every potential tie in the next round is fascinating, even Porto V Ajax would be good to have a more of an "under dog" in the last 4.

If Barca get a goal, that's when they punish you as you have to move up and space opens up for the little magician. I wouldnt mind playing them, keep it tight and use the pace in behind the fullbacks.. but as I said, I don't really care who United get. Whoever wins it is hoong to have to beat the best teams and would rather face someone like barca over 2 legs than a once off final

yourdeadwright

astradave wrote: »

Just an observation but when you sign off posts "but fred the red knows best" do you not see that as attacking the poster and not the post, why is there a need to put shīt like that in a post.. it's pretty condescending and reflects worse on you tbh.

Ok to be fair that wasn't great i'll hold my hands up for that one,

I should have just said .There is numerous comments from world football star's commenting on how good the atmosphere is on a European night but a lad who has never been there say's its terrible,

Anyway we have both moved on so don't want clog up the thread anymore with me and him bickering ,

GLaDOS

Pep had a few bad defeats against Barca with Bayern didn't he?

Edit: just 1 tie, lost 5-3

yourdeadwright

GLaDOS wrote: »

Pep had a few bad defeats against Barca with Bayern didn't he?

Edit: just 1 tie, lost 5-2

I think it was 5-3 ,
I recall 3-0 nil at barca's place and they won 3-2 at there own ?

GLaDOS

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I think it was 5-3 ,
I recall 3-0 nil at barca's place and they won 3-2 at there own ?

Yep, I misread it

fyfe79

GLaDOS wrote: »

Pep had a few bad defeats against Barca with Bayern didn't he?

Edit: just 1 tie, lost 5-3

Had to check as I remembered Bayern beating Barca 7-0 a few years ago and couldn’t remember who Pep was managing at the time– turns out that was during his gap year (2013) after leaving Barca so he wasn’t involved but was already in place to take over at Munich for the following season. That was a crazy result over the two legs.

yourdeadwright

Barcalona are such a horrible team to play

No matter how good your team are all it takes is Messi to have one of his good games and your out ,

yourdeadwright

fyfe79 wrote: »

Had to check as I remembered Bayern beating Barca 7-0 a few years ago and couldn’t remember who Pep was managing at the time– turns out that was during his gap year (2013) after leaving Barca so he wasn’t involved but was already in place to take over at Munich for the following season. That was a crazy result over the two legs.

Was Pep Bayern coach when Madrid thumped them 4-0 in Bayern ?

5starpool

Can the word 'narrative' be banned from the forum? Pretty please mods?

Benimar

Anyway, in actual news:

UEFA have announced that Man City and Man Utd won't play at home in the same week. Therefore if they are both home (or away) first, the Man Utd tie will be reversed as they finished lower in the league last season.

GLaDOS

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Was Pep Bayern coach when Madrid thumped them 4-0 in Bayern ?

Yeah (you've a good memory clearly :pac:), think I had that in mind with my Barca post.

http://www.espn.com/soccer/uefa-champions-league/2/blog/post/3452150/pep-guardiolas-champions-league-woes-no-final-reached-since-2011

Sums up his CL record since his last final

yourdeadwright

GLaDOS wrote: »

Yeah (you've a good memory clearly :pac:), think I had that in mind with my Barca post.

http://www.espn.com/soccer/uefa-champions-league/2/blog/post/3452150/pep-guardiolas-champions-league-woes-no-final-reached-since-2011

Sums up his CL record since his last final

I only remember because I was on holidays in the States and up in the middle of the night with a teething baby so I watched that,

jayo26

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Ok to be fair that wasn't great i'll hold my hands up for that one,

I should have just said .There is numerous comments from world football star's commenting on how good the atmosphere is on a European night but a lad who has never been there say's its terrible,

Anyway we have both moved on so don't want clog up the thread anymore with me and him bickering ,

Fair play mate it takes a lot to admit your in the wrong. It's over with now we all move on.

yourdeadwright

Can anyone remember last year the Roma website posted information about tickets for the Liverpool home game with correct dates, 3 hours before the draw was made, Then removed it,

Not only did they got the team right they got the home and away order right, Very dodgy ,

I wonder will see anything like that tomorrow,

GavRedKing

There is a pratice draw, maybe they were paired together there and they jumped the gun and got it right?

Or else its a big UEFA scam, both are likely.

GLaDOS

Could be recorded ahead of time? Still a bit dodgy though.

dundalkfc10

Benimar wrote: »

Anyway, in actual news:

UEFA have announced that Man City and Man Utd won't play at home in the same week. Therefore if they are both home (or away) first, the Man Utd tie will be reversed as they finished lower in the league last season.

That was always gonna be the case

dundalkfc10

GavRedKing wrote: »

Thats a bit of a stretch and a tad bit hyperbolic, just a tad.

For research purposes, name 90% of the grounds better, we'll wait.

Well for a start Celtic Park, Ibrox, Selhurst Park, Elland Road have better atmospheres in UK alone.

German League right down to Div 2/3 is just as good as Liverpool.

Polish/Greek/Turkish Leagues all far superior

Will I continue?

citytillidie

Benimar wrote: »

Anyway, in actual news:

UEFA have announced that Man City and Man Utd won't play at home in the same week. Therefore if they are both home (or away) first, the Man Utd tie will be reversed as they finished lower in the league last season.

Same as Arsenal and Chelsea in the Europa League both were drawn at home but Arsenal had to play away 1st as they finished lower than Chelsea in the league

NIMAN

I never believed all the conspiracy theories around the CL draw.

For every tie that comes out and you hear cries of "I told you Utd would get the easiest team left", there are a multiple more ties that no-one predicted.

5starpool

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Well for a start Celtic Park, Ibrox, Selhurst Park, Elland Road have better atmospheres in UK alone.

German League right down to Div 2/3 is just as good as Liverpool.

Polish/Greek/Turkish Leagues all far superior

Will I continue?

How have you measured this vs big European nights at Anfield? This was the comparison, not mid day kick offs in October vs Huddersfield.

jayo26

NIMAN wrote: »

I never believed all the conspiracy theories around the CL draw.

For every tie that comes out and you hear cries of "I told you Utd would get the easiest team left", there are a multiple more ties that no-one predicted.

Totally agree mate. If United get drawn against pool it will be on that's a fix two big rivals. If we get Ajax or porto ohh that's a fix the easiest games. If we get juventus oh that's a fix Ronaldo coming home blah blah.

8-10

Champions League Final ticket applications open online now over on UEFA.com if you're feeling lucky

Berserker

8-10 wrote: »

Champions League Final ticket applications open online now over on UEFA.com if you're feeling lucky

Was thinking about it but the prices are insane. €600 for a category 1. You have to select all four categories to have any chance of getting tickets, in my experience.

MisterAnarchy

Berserker wrote: »

Was thinking about it but the prices are insane. €600 for a category 1. You have to select all four categories to have any chance of getting tickets, in my experience.

Yes the prices are ridiculous

Category 1 was 450 euro last year ,an increase of 33% this year .
Only 4000 tickets in the lottery ,down from 6700 last year ,its probably a waste of time even applying.

Berserker

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Yes the prices are ridiculous

Category 1 was 450 euro last year ,an increase of 33% this year .
Only 4000 tickets in the lottery ,down from 6700 last year ,its probably a waste of time even applying.

That's mental. 37,500 available for the EL final in Baku.

Agent Coulson

Cities overlords have already paid UEFA off for them to make it to the final expect them to get Porto in the last 8 and mad VAR calls to help them out in the semi final to make it into the final. :pac::pac:

8-10

Berserker wrote: »

Was thinking about it but the prices are insane. €600 for a category 1. You have to select all four categories to have any chance of getting tickets, in my experience.

My ticket last season was £140 for the category 2, this is definitely more extortionate

Fitz*

No harm in trying anyways!

yourdeadwright

Benimar wrote: »

Anyway, in actual news:

UEFA have announced that Man City and Man Utd won't play at home in the same week. Therefore if they are both home (or away) first, the Man Utd tie will be reversed as they finished lower in the league last season.

Kind of strange because that may turn into an advantage to United and not City,

Say both City and United are draw home in the first , then United is moved to home in the second leg , but I guess that they can't give City the choice as it wouldn't be fair on whoever they draw,

I'm guessing most teams want the second leg at home ?

GavRedKing

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Well for a start Celtic Park, Ibrox, Selhurst Park, Elland Road have better atmospheres in UK alone.

German League right down to Div 2/3 is just as good as Liverpool.

Polish/Greek/Turkish Leagues all far superior

Will I continue?

So thats 4 in the UK better and countless unnamed German/Polish/Greek/Turkish stadiums without any supporting evidence other than hearsay and conjecture?

No need to continue, thanks.

8-10

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Kind of strange because that may turn into an advantage to United and not City,

Say both City and United are draw home in the first , then United is moved to home in the second leg , but I guess that they can't give City the choice as it wouldn't be fair on whoever they draw,

I'm guessing most teams want the second leg at home ?

For Liverpool I'd prefer to be at home first. But I'd imagine for City and United they'd want to be at home second.

yourdeadwright

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Well for a start Celtic Park, Ibrox, Selhurst Park, Elland Road have better atmospheres in UK alone.

German League right down to Div 2/3 is just as good as Liverpool.

Polish/Greek/Turkish Leagues all far superior

Will I continue?

Theres a picture of Shelhurst park on one of those European nights that legendary atmosphere