2018-19 UEFA Champions League

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Awful draw for a Barcelona fan. United could catch them out on the counter and if they don't, there's another English side awaiting them and possibly another in the final.

English teams v Barcelona is insufferable.

And if United win, a United v Liverpool CL semifinal instead...

Jimbob1977

Barcelona's last 30 Champions League home games:

Won 27 and drew 3.

United will need to win that home leg (1st leg). Possibly by two goals. The Camp Nou will be an onslaught.

Liverpool to beat Porto

City to beat Spurs

Juve to beat Ajax

Kiith

GLaDOS wrote: »

United have had poxy draws in all competitions, its incredible.

United had PSG last round...how was that poxy?

Cookiemunster

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

Barcelona's last 30 Champions League home games:

Won 27 and drew 3.

They're due a loss so How long was PSGs unbeaten record before Utd turned up?

lassykk

Kiith wrote: »

United had PSG last round...how was that poxy?

Think he means poxy bad not poxy lucky

Rushden

Kiith wrote: »

United had PSG last round...how was that poxy?

Poxy bad I think he means, PSG and Barca here. Arsenal and Wolves in the FA cup when there were much easier draws

yourdeadwright

United v Barca will be a great game,

As i said yesterday Barcelona are a right pain because even if you play perfectly all it takes is Messi has a good game and good night for anyone ,

citytillidie

LuckyGent88

Rushden wrote: »

Poxy bad I think he means, PSG and Barca here. Arsenal and Wolves in the FA cup when there were much easier draws

Nah pretty sure as a Liverpool fan he is taking the piss.

United have had rotten luck this year with draws. Add in the fact that we should be having the second leg at home but it has to be switched because city were at home too. Everything against us this year.

Anyway, didn’t expect to be in the quarters so have to look forward to it anyway.

Kiith

Rushden wrote: »

Poxy bad I think he means, PSG and Barca here. Arsenal and Wolves in the FA cup when there were much easier draws

lassykk wrote: »

Think he means poxy bad not poxy lucky

Ah ok, that makes more sense.

Gbear

An extremely random draw. One might say perfectly random.

Sounds likes a fix to me...

yourdeadwright

Don't forget Roma knocked out a better Barcelona side last year ,
I think United will do them and that comes form a Liverpool fan

The_Kew_Tour

United are either good enough or they ain't. If they get through Psg and Barca they deserve to be in semi final.

Barca hot favs but you never know

yourdeadwright

Barca play Atletico 3 days before the away trip to United not ideal

NIMAN

No such thing as hot favs at this stage imho.

PSG were 2 up after Old Trafford tie, having outclassed Utd.
Real Madrid were 2-1 up after Amsterdam, probably 'hot' favs at home.
Atleti were favs after leading 2-0 going into Turin game.

MisterAnarchy

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Don't forget Roma knocked out a better Barcelona side last year ,
I think United will do them and that comes form a Liverpool fan

Barcelona are better this season ,the defence is much meaner and Suarez is much improved too.

Barca play Atletico 3 days before the away trip to United not ideal

That could be a big factor.

Cookiemunster

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Barca play Atletico 3 days before the away trip to United not ideal

Bet that game gets played the Friday night. La Liga (and other European leagues) actually help their clubs prepare for Europe.

LuckyLloyd

NIMAN wrote: »

No such thing as hot favs at this stage imho.

PSG were 2 up after Old Trafford tie, having outclassed Utd.
Real Madrid were 2-1 up after Amsterdam, probably 'hot' favs at home.
Atleti were favs after leading 2-0 going into Turin game.

All these sides have weapons. Give them 20 mins we’re you’re sloppy and off the pace and you’ll have shipped a couple of goals before you know it. That’s why this is the best competition in football.

GLaDOS

I had no idea poxy could be interpreted as a good thing :pac:

highgiant1985

enjoyable draw from a neutral perspective

My prediction

Ajax vs Juventus - Juventus to win
Spurs vs Man City - Man City to win
Barcelona vs Man Utd - Barcelona to win
Liverpool - Porto - Liverpool to win

Semi finals would be a cracking line up!

Juventus vs Man City
Barcelona vs Liverpool

Cookiemunster

GLaDOS wrote: »

I had no idea poxy could be interpreted as a good thing :pac:

Can often be interchanged with jammy.

klose

blueser wrote: »

Liverpool with the draw everyone wanted. Two easy ties in the run up to the final.

Bit ironic coming from a city fan who've had laughably easy draws in every cup competition until todays draw.

yourdeadwright

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Barcelona are better this season ,the defence is much meaner and Suarez is much improved too.


That could be a big factor.

They really aren't

Compare there league record

Last season they let in 29 in total , this season have let in 26 with 11 games still to go.,

Scored 99 last term are 30 behind that on 69, they will get close to last term,

Luis is pretty much the same as last season

He had 25 league goals last year and has 17 this season so far ,
He had 1 champions league goal and has 0 this season,

messinkiapina

I think Spurs have a good chance against City. They've been excellent for a really long time, the recent blip is just that and they're a top, top quality team that people are now underestimating. I see it being a very close tie that could go either way.

NIMAN

messinkiapina wrote: »

I think Spurs have a good chance against City. They've been excellent for a really long time, the recent blip is just that and they're a top, top quality team that people are now underestimating. I see it being a very close tie that could go either way.

Let's see how good Eriksen and Kane really are.

highgiant1985

messinkiapina wrote: »

I think Spurs have a good chance against City. They've been excellent for a really long time, the recent blip is just that and they're a top, top quality team that people are now underestimating. I see it being a very close tie that could go either way.

they're certainly going to have a huge impact on the season anyway given they still have to play liverpool / city in the league and now city twice in the CL! I'd like to see spurs win but City just look so strong at the moment.

yourdeadwright

Injury and suspension could be huge

Ronaldo, Messi , VVD, Kane, Rashford, De Jong , Militao missing would all effect there teams no end,

Knex*

While as a Liverpool fan I obviously wanted Porto, it would be a bit mad to completely rule them out.

16 points in the groups stages (more than any other team), and still capable of scraping out a victory. No team at this stage is a walkover or without talent.

Furthermore, this is not a side that will be naive to Liverpool. They came out of the blocks in home game last year and got hammered on the counter and lost 5 nil. They will not do the same this time around, guaranteed.

They needed to win at home in the 2nd leg vs Roma and they did the job, 3-1, over 30 shots on goal. Albeit extra time was required. Still, no mean feat.

MisterAnarchy

yourdeadwright wrote: »

They really aren't

Compare there league record

Last season they let in 29 in total , this season have let in 26 with 11 games still to go.,

Scored 99 last term are 30 behind that on 69, they will get close to last term,

Luis is pretty much the same as last season

He had 25 league goals last year and has 17 this season so far ,
He had 1 champions league goal and has 0 this season,

I'm talking about the last few months ,not the whole season .

Suarez is definitely sharper the last few months ,he had a knee cyst last season .

Lenglet beside Pique is more reliable than Umtiti ,who had an absolute nightmare last season away to Roma ,himself and Pique were a shambles that night.

Barcelona in Europe the last few years seem to be their own worst enemy though ,they seem to put in inexcusably poor away performances when least expected.

NIMAN

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Injury and suspension could be huge

Ronaldo, Messi , VVD, Kane, Rashford, De Jong , Militao missing would all effect there teams no end,

Thats always applied to CL knockout games, nothing new.

The White Wolf

NIMAN wrote: »

I can't believe everyone is so dismissive of the Ajax team.

Liverpool got the easiest team, full stop.

Yeah I'm delighted with the draw to be honest. Made up, all respect to Porto and there's no guarantees at this stage of the cup, but if Liverpool play to the level that they're capable of it should be straightforward.

Over the moon tbh. Fair play to Porto if they knock us out.

Agent Coulson

All set up for a Messi vs Ronnie final for the best in the world title.

yourdeadwright

NIMAN wrote: »

Thats always applied to CL knockout games, nothing new.

Exactly and its always impossible to pick the winners when the draw is made, always upset and issues ,

fyfe79

Agent Coulson wrote: »

All set up for a Messi vs Ronnie final for the best in the world title.

Yes, I know it means Liverpool not there, but a Barca/Juve final would be amazing just for that H2H to happen!

Bret Hart

Juve,City,Barca,Liverpool all too progress.

I'm going for a City v Liverpool final.

ThunbergsAreGo

klose wrote: »

Bit ironic coming from a city fan who've had laughably easy draws in every cup competition until todays draw.

Is it right City can have won a domestic cup and be in the semi of another all without beating a top flight team over 90 mins?

Guy:Incognito

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Can often be interchanged with jammy.

You're thinking of poxed.

Poxy is always bad.

Loafing Oaf

Bret Hart wrote: »

Juve,City,Barca,Liverpool all too progress.

I think nearly everyone would say that unless they were being contrarian. I wouldn't rule out United though.

Utopia Parkway

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

I'm talking about the last few months ,not the whole season .

Suarez is definitely sharper the last few months ,he had a knee cyst last season .

Lenglet beside Pique is more reliable than Umtiti ,who had an absolute nightmare last season away to Roma ,himself and Pique were a shambles that night.

Barcelona in Europe the last few years seem to be their own worst enemy though ,they seem to put in inexcusably poor away performances when least expected.

Dembele is also playing better now.

Cookiemunster

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

You're thinking of poxed.

Poxy is always bad.

I suppose it depends on where you're from.

Loafing Oaf

Knex. wrote: »

While as a Liverpool fan I obviously wanted Porto, it would be a bit mad to completely rule them out.

16 points in the groups stages (more than any other team), and still capable of scraping out a victory. No team at this stage is a walkover or without talent.

Furthermore, this is not a side that will be naive to Liverpool. They came out of the blocks in home game last year and got hammered on the counter and lost 5 nil. They will not do the same this time around, guaranteed.

They needed to win at home in the 2nd leg vs Roma and they did the job, 3-1, over 30 shots on goal. Albeit extra time was required. Still, no mean feat.

Yeah but look at the group, Schalke were the other qualifiers.:rolleyes: Beating Roma over two legs merits respect though.

On reflection, it's worked out pretty well for City. The teams I would see as their main threats, Liverpool and Barcelona, are in the other half...

Guy:Incognito

Cookiemunster wrote: »

I suppose it depends on where you're from.

Yeah. The right place. Or down the country

xtal191

You just know it'll be a City Liverpool final

DJIMI TRARORE

As a pool fan,I don't think we could have asked for better,every other team probably wanted Porto,as for a possible SF,we'll worry about that when/ if we get there

Iused2likebusts

If an english team makes the final they will have a 3 week break before the CL final unless they make the FA cup final. Personally dont think thats a good thing. Never understood why the PL didnt start back a week later this year to give players an extra week off after the world cup and finish the season a week later.

GavRedKing

Messi v Ronaldo is the dream final, the fact theyve only played in one final against each other down through the years is a bit mad.

Apart from that, Barca v City would be the next best match up.

yourdeadwright

GavRedKing wrote: »

Messi v Ronaldo is the dream final, the fact theyve only played in one final against each other down through the years is a bit mad.

Apart from that, Barca v City would be the next best match up.

To be fair there's loads of great match up for a final for different reason

Juve v Barca, two goats
City v Barca Pep v his old team,
United v City derby ,
Juve v United Ronaldo against his old side
Liverpool v City , someone trying to get revenge for the Prem
Liverpool v Ajax to old school giants who have never meet,
Ajax v Porto battle of the underdogs
Spurs v United , does Poch need to join United to win a trophies
Spurs v Liverpool , battle of the bottlers ,can anyone win a trophy

Harry Palmr

Zinger of an opening post btl on the Guardian CL draw blog.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/mar/15/champions-league-draw-pits-spurs-against-man-city-and-man-utd-with-barcelona

Mr.H

yourdeadwright wrote:

Juve v Barca, two goats City v Barca Pep v his old team, United v City derby , Juve v United Ronaldo against his old side Liverpool v City , someone trying to get revenge for the Prem Liverpool v Ajax to old school giants who have never meet, Ajax v Porto battle of the underdogs Spurs v United , does Poch need to join United to win a trophies Spurs v Liverpool , battle of the bottlers ,can anyone win a trophy

Spurs v liverpool. The first time ever that nobody wins.

I think it could be city liverpool and all the talk will be both teams going for both titles.

But nobody will be getting an easy ride. Some tough ties despite all the crap about ajax and porto being so called weak sides

fyfe79

yourdeadwright wrote: »

To be fair there's loads of great match up for a final for different reason

Juve v Barca, two goats
City v Barca Pep v his old team,
United v City derby ,
Juve v United Ronaldo against his old side
Liverpool v City , someone trying to get revenge for the Prem
Liverpool v Ajax to old school giants who have never meet,
Ajax v Porto battle of the underdogs
Spurs v United , does Poch need to join United to win a trophies
Spurs v Liverpool , battle of the bottlers ,can anyone win a trophy

Match abandoned - both teams go home empty-handed.