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PTH2009

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Sounds like it'll be another while before any announcement either way

Dont knw much about Cahill but that Tipp u21/u20 were playing pretty good and deserved AI champs. Whether that style would be good for senior is another story and with our squad

Thought they would have someone in place for the county semi finals next weekend

914

PTH2009 wrote: »

Any news on this special county board meeting to ratify the new management team ?

I know a fella , who knew a fella, who as at the meeting about the meeting and your man's sister's brother's father in-law who is related to the fella that dives the bus said, your man is getting the job. It will be announced on the 32nd of this month.

mountgomery burns

914 wrote: »

I know a fella , who knew a fella, who as at the meeting about the meeting and your man's sister's brother's father in-law who is related to the fella that dives the bus said, your man is getting the job. It will be announced on the 32nd of this month.

Top banter

Mastermcgrath

Deiseland wrote: »

I’m hearing that Cahill the Tipp u20 manager has been interviewed this week for deise job.

Id be surprised if he took it if offered, and not hold on for the Tipp job if he thought it was coming in next year or 2. He’d be a shoe-in for it and Sheedy unlikely to commit long term. Let’s be honest the Waterford job is a bit of a gamble for any outsider given the noises coming out of camp this year

emergingstar

Cahill was interviewd yesterday evening

cul beag

Any of the decent candidates available won’t go near it because of the player power/outside influence problems associated with it.

Gardner

cul beag wrote: »

Any of the decent candidates available won’t go near it because of the player power/outside influence problems associated with it.

go on enlighten us all

deisedude

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

Id be surprised if he took it if offered, and not hold on for the Tipp job if he thought it was coming in next year or 2. He’d be a shoe-in for it and Sheedy unlikely to commit long term. Let’s be honest the Waterford job is a bit of a gamble for any outsider given the noises coming out of camp this year

To be fair there is no guarantee he would get the Tipp job. Tommy Dunne could get it ahead of him

mountgomery burns

deisedude wrote: »

To be fair there is no guarantee he would get the Tipp job. Tommy Dunne could get it ahead of him

Unless he does something to destroy his reputation i.e. a failed stint with Waterford then I can't see anyone else getting it. Heard he might be taking a break, been on the go 5 years I think between minor and u20/21

PTH2009

Western hurling semi finals take centre stage this weekend

Junior A semi finals- 21st Sep
Kilrossanty vs Abbeyside
St Mary's vs Colligan

Intermediate semi finals
Clashmore vs Ardmore (Sat 21st Sep Fraher Field 19.30)
An Rinn vs Ballysaggart (Sun 22nd Sep Fraher Field 15.30)

Mastermcgrath

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Heard he might be taking a break, been on the go 5 years I think between minor and u20/21

Well he interviewed for the Waterford job on Thursday night So either you or your source is talking bollox

mountgomery burns

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

Well he interviewed for the Waterford job on Thursday night So either you or your source is talking bollox

Yeah wasn't anybody with their finger on the pulse in fairness

PTH2009

how much of a chance would this guy have over someone like Peter Quelly of getting the job ??

Wasant Denis Walsh interviewed for the job too ??

PTH2009

West Junior A hurling semi finals
Abbeyside 1-14- Kilrossanty 3-8
St Mary's 5-9- Colligan 3-9

Dont Stop

DJ stepped down. He'll hardly come down in our hour of need.
Might straighten a few players out. Couldnt see him staying for more than a year though.

PTH2009

Dont Stop wrote: »

DJ stepped down. He'll hardly come down in our hour of need.
Might straighten a few players out. Couldnt see him staying for more than a year though.

No it was said in the statement he is still committed too Kilkenny GAA

Ardmore victors by 1 point over Clashmore in tonight's Western Intermediate hurling semi final in horrendous conditions

PTH2009

Ballysaggart 1-20- An Rinn 2-16 in the West Intermediate semi final

Ardmore vs Ballysaggart in the Western final

Eastern semi finals take place next weekend
Dunhill vs Ballyduff Lower
Ballygunner Intermediates vs Portlaw

KevIRL

Ballymacarbry win women's football county championship for 38th year in a row

tommylad1212

PTH2009 wrote: »

Ballysaggart 1-20- An Rinn 2-16 in the West Intermediate semi final

Ardmore vs Ballysaggart in the Western final

Eastern semi finals take place next weekend
Dunhill vs Ballyduff Lower
Ballygunner Intermediates vs Portlaw

Should be ballygunner v dunhill final ?

windy shepard henderson

KevIRL wrote: »

Ballymacarbry win women's football county championship for 38th year in a row

what!! the 38th year in a row .....:eek:

PTH2009

tommylad1212 wrote: »

Should be ballygunner v dunhill final ?

Depends on how strong the Ballygunner panel at that level is

Am I right in saying the club is so big it has teams at every level in the Hurling championships in Waterford ??

mountgomery burns

PTH2009 wrote: »

Depends on how strong the Ballygunner panel at that level is

Am I right in saying the club is so big it has teams at every level in the Hurling championships in Waterford ??

That would be three teams. Mt Sion, DLS and Abbeyside also all have 3 teams.

DLS2THECORE

“Also in @ExaminerSport some interesting developments re @WaterfordGAA managerial hunt”
From Mike Moynihan - Examiner journalist

PTH2009

mountgomery burns wrote: »

That would be three teams. Mt Sion, DLS and Abbeyside also all have 3 teams.

Are players allowed move levels ???

Say a guy was stuck on the bench for the seniors, could he play for the Intermediates or juniors too ???

mountgomery burns

PTH2009 wrote: »

Are players allowed move levels ???

Say a guy was stuck on the bench for the seniors, could he play for the Intermediates or juniors too ???

Once you play in championship in the calendar year a grade above you are no longer eligible to drop down. Players then have to be regraded by the club if they've played at a higher level to drop down for the following year.

All players are eligible to play in the County Senior leagues and remain playing for a clubs second or third team in championship.

PTH2009

DLS2THECORE wrote: »

“Also in @ExaminerSport some interesting developments re @WaterfordGAA managerial hunt”
From Mike Moynihan - Examiner journalist

Interesting

Any info

Stopitwillya

mountgomery burns wrote: »

PTH2009 wrote: »

Depends on how strong the Ballygunner panel at that level is

Am I right in saying the club is so big it has teams at every level in the Hurling championships in Waterford ??

That would be three teams. Mt Sion, DLS and Abbeyside also all have 3 teams.

roanmore have 3 teams.

mountgomery burns

Stopitwillya wrote: »

roanmore have 3 teams.

Thought they might do as well

tommylad1212

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Thought they might do as well

Only ballygunner and salle have senior and inter teams

mountgomery burns

tommylad1212 wrote: »

Only ballygunner and salle have senior and inter teams

Thanks I know

Deise Gael

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/peter-queally-the-front-runner-for-waterford-hurling-role-952505.html

mountgomery burns

Deise Gael wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/peter-queally-the-front-runner-for-waterford-hurling-role-952505.html

What a scoop!

deiseach

mountgomery burns wrote: »

What a scoop!

"It is understood" :rolleyes:

PTH2009

Deise Gael wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/peter-queally-the-front-runner-for-waterford-hurling-role-952505.html

Positives out of that team is Dan (for his motivation and passion on the sideline) and Gerry Fitzpatrick

Queally is going to have a big job on his hands. I just hope the players buy into this and it will be nothing like last year from the league final on

hardybuck

PTH2009 wrote: »

Positives out of that team is Dan (for his motivation and passion on the sideline) and Gerry Fitzpatrick

Queally is going to have a big job on his hands. I just hope the players buy into this and it will be nothing like last year from the league final on

Gerry Fitzpatrick?

thesaturdayman

Don’t know how true or false this is or isn’t, but if it’s in the paper and Moynihan wrote it, it must be true seeing as he is PJR go to man so let’s just assume it is

And before I’ll be shot down with the classic Waterford line of “stop being a knocker” etc. and give the lad a chance etc I just want to qualify what I’m saying with the below proviso

I accept the argument to a point that players aren’t there to win an all Ireland, but I do believe under right mgmt team we could get to an all ire semi - maybe.

If we are all being objective and being honest here, What other top inter county jobs would Peter Queally get? Honestly?

There are 10 teams quoted for the all Ireland next year we are joint second longest odds of 25/1 (Dublin Same) Laois at 500/1 are next.

I couldnt conceivably see him getting ANY other job assuming they were all there and he wanted it. Carlow or Kerry, maybe, Offaly probably. Is he really and truly the best man we can get? Or are we totally hamstrung by total lack of finances?

Who is asking why are we forced to shop in the bargain basket? Why is it always the cheapest handiest effort?

The local media to my mind have a lot to answer for in the lack of a robust challenge to the county boards failings over last 2 decades & in particular last 5 years. It’s a long list at this stage.

It’s one excuse to the next & a never ending blame circle, devoid of leadership, innovation, entrepreneurial spirit, the characteristics that the Waterford teams of last 20 years were full of.

If Queally is best we can really do, great I’ll wish him luck & be there supporting as per.

The whole county is at tipping point, hard questions need to be asked & more over people need to be held to account for their actions or is most likely the case, their lack of actions.

RichardBzero

Hearing today Michael Ryan of Tipperary

hardybuck

thesaturdayman wrote: »

Don’t know how true or false this is or isn’t, but if it’s in the paper and Moynihan wrote it, it must be true seeing as he is PJR go to man so let’s just assume it is

And before I’ll be shot down with the classic Waterford line of “stop being a knocker” etc. and give the lad a chance etc I just want to qualify what I’m saying with the below proviso

I accept the argument to a point that players aren’t there to win an all Ireland, but I do believe under right mgmt team we could get to an all ire semi - maybe.

If we are all being objective and being honest here, What other top inter county jobs would Peter Queally get? Honestly?

There are 10 teams quoted for the all Ireland next year we are joint second longest odds of 25/1 (Dublin Same) Laois at 500/1 are next.

I couldnt conceivably see him getting ANY other job assuming they were all there and he wanted it. Carlow or Kerry, maybe, Offaly probably. Is he really and truly the best man we can get? Or are we totally hamstrung by total lack of finances?

Who is asking why are we forced to shop in the bargain basket? Why is it always the cheapest handiest effort?

The local media to my mind have a lot to answer for in the lack of a robust challenge to the county boards failings over last 2 decades & in particular last 5 years. It’s a long list at this stage.

It’s one excuse to the next & a never ending blame circle, devoid of leadership, innovation, entrepreneurial spirit, the characteristics that the Waterford teams of last 20 years were full of.

If Queally is best we can really do, great I’ll wish him luck & be there supporting as per.

The whole county is at tipping point, hard questions need to be asked & more over people need to be held to account for their actions or is most likely the case, their lack of actions.

Well first of all Waterford is restricted slightly from a geographic perspective if looking for an outsider. We realistically can source from Tipp, Cork, Kilkenny or maybe Wexford if anyone is around there and up to it.

The likes of Anthony Daly and Anthony Cunningham, or anyone else from Limerick/Clare/Galway are probably too far away.

Cork haven't had a good manager in years, and Wexford have an out of town manager. For an aspiring Tipp manager, you're probably better off working with one of their underage sides. Kilkenny have a few guys waiting for Cody's seat - but probably better for them to take an underage side or a smaller county where they can make mistakes without the same scrutiny.

When we did get outside managers we didn't exactly attract sought after high profile candidates. We got a cast off (Justin), and two managers taking their first senior intercounty manager roles (Gerald and Davy).

Waterford in 2020 is not an attractive role for a lot of candidates, regardless of what money is available. We'll end up getting someone eager to cut their teeth at senior level.

PTH2009

http://www.hoganstand.com/article/index/304245

Jjjjjjjjbarry

PTH2009 wrote: »

http://www.hoganstand.com/article/index/304245

Yeah but why couldn't they play one on Saturday evening. They're too close together for comfort.

hurler on de ditch

PTH2009 wrote: »

http://www.hoganstand.com/article/index/304245

Love the use if the word "logic"

TheScoringGoal

hurler on de ditch wrote: »

Love the use if the word "logic"

As soon as the semi finals were announced I called it that they'd do this.

mountgomery burns

TheScoringGoal wrote: »

As soon as the semi finals were announced I called it that they'd do this.

In fairness, at least there is some sort of effort to offer value for the weekends games with 20 euro covering the 3 games. Still not great but a start

PTH2009

they should of siad to Dungarvan or any other of the west senior clubs with a similar agreement 'This home and away rule thing is only for group stage games and its our decision where to play knockout games'

It should be a double header in Walsh Park

Mastermcgrath

thesaturdayman wrote: »

Don’t know how true or false this is or isn’t, but if it’s in the paper and Moynihan wrote it, it must be true seeing as he is PJR go to man so let’s just assume it is

And before I’ll be shot down with the classic Waterford line of “stop being a knocker” etc. and give the lad a chance etc I just want to qualify what I’m saying with the below proviso

I accept the argument to a point that players aren’t there to win an all Ireland, but I do believe under right mgmt team we could get to an all ire semi - maybe.

If we are all being objective and being honest here, What other top inter county jobs would Peter Queally get? Honestly?

There are 10 teams quoted for the all Ireland next year we are joint second longest odds of 25/1 (Dublin Same) Laois at 500/1 are next.

I couldnt conceivably see him getting ANY other job assuming they were all there and he wanted it. Carlow or Kerry, maybe, Offaly probably. Is he really and truly the best man we can get? Or are we totally hamstrung by total lack of finances?

Who is asking why are we forced to shop in the bargain basket? Why is it always the cheapest handiest effort?

The local media to my mind have a lot to answer for in the lack of a robust challenge to the county boards failings over last 2 decades & in particular last 5 years. It’s a long list at this stage.

It’s one excuse to the next & a never ending blame circle, devoid of leadership, innovation, entrepreneurial spirit, the characteristics that the Waterford teams of last 20 years were full of.

If Queally is best we can really do, great I’ll wish him luck & be there supporting as per.

The whole county is at tipping point, hard questions need to be asked & more over people need to be held to account for their actions or is most likely the case, their lack of actions.

Don’t think asking ‘how many other county jobs would Queally get’ is a valid argument. I don’t remember John Kiely being the front runner for many jobs before he got the Limerick one. Just because he’s not a big outside name doesn’t mean he’s not the right person for the job. I like the back room tram. Denis Walsh is former Cork senior manager and knows the scene here well, we know Dan is good for morale in the camp and Gerry Fitz has been there done it before aswell. There’s plenty of experience there it’s just a matter if they can get these players to gel.

Road-Hog

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

Don’t think asking ‘how many other county jobs would Queally get’ is a valid argument. I don’t remember John Kiely being the front runner for many jobs before he got the Limerick one. Just because he’s not a big outside name doesn’t mean he’s not the right person for the job. I like the back room tram. Denis Walsh is former Cork senior manager and knows the scene here well, we know Dan is good for morale in the camp and Gerry Fitz has been there done it before aswell. There’s plenty of experience there it’s just a matter if they can get these players to gel.

I was going to post something very similar.....who had heard of John kiely prior to 2018 outside limerick. Did he ever play intercounty according to Wikipedia he was only ever a limerick panel member.......he dabbled with club and underage management prior to limerick senior appointment....on the face of it peter queally would have a better pre intercounty appointment CV than kiely......the big questions will does PQ have what it takes tactically, leadership wise and with this group of players ‘interpersonal skills’ that appear to be needed to gel them all together......don’t think there is any doubting his passion/commitment but as pauric fanning discovered this will not be enough...........

tommylad1212

I wouldn't be going to pp looking to be paid out on peter just yet!!

DLS2THECORE

Looks like it’s not Queally.

Lingoweet913

DLS2THECORE wrote: »

Looks like it’s not Queally.

💣 🔥

Road-Hog

DLS2THECORE wrote: »

Looks like it’s not Queally.

Eh.....source etc......will it be announced this weekend.....sooner the better