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PTH2009

Relhcstirt wrote: »

Sure it will. PJR says the covered stand should be ready anyhow.
Definately wont we outside the county.

Wouldn't believe a word out of that mans mouth.

Tipp match is not til 10th may 2020 so if they start work November of this year we might have the stand and maybe dressing rooms done in time. Not a hope the whole thing be done

We prob play our league home games in Fraher Field

upthedeise16

Relhcstirt wrote: »

Sure it will. PJR says the covered stand should be ready anyhow.
Definately wont we outside the county.

Ah it must be true so, he wouldn’t lie or make false promises in fairness

hardybuck

I heard they've applied to take part in the next season of Room to Improve.

Dermot will have his work cut out to get this open plan stadium project, incorporating a percola and a home office for members of the county board, over the line with a limited budget and wacky owners who keep changing the spec.

Expect the wrong windows to be ordered, a woefully underfunded contingency budget, and a last minute call to Dermot Gavin to sort out the pitch.

DeiseDawg

mountgomery burns wrote: »

What caused the delay that prevented it being done between the Limerick game and now?

I'd rather they held off now to be honest, doubt they'll get it completed on time and we can't go on the road again after 2018.

Was it not said there is a delay in receiving the government funding part of it?

Jjjjjjjjbarry

When are the league fixtures out? I hope they clarify all the venues before the season tickets go on sale so we know what we're signing up for.

Jjjjjjjjbarry

Is there any chance of an upset at all on Sunday? If Ballygunner have a sort of off day, can DLS win?

Stacksofwacks

Jjjjjjjjbarry wrote: »

Is there any chance of an upset at all on Sunday? If Ballygunner have a sort of off day, can DLS win?

Ballygunner are a very well oiled machine at this stage and it will take a serious effort from DLS to beat them, who I think are probably the only team in the county who I would give an outside chance to.

TheScoringGoal

DeiseDawg wrote: »

Was it not said there is a delay in receiving the government funding part of it?

Yeah that's the main issue. Seemingly the GAA have pledged funding as well but that's contingent on the government funding.

mountgomery burns

DeiseDawg wrote: »

Was it not said there is a delay in receiving the government funding part of it?

Hard to blame the CB for that one

BlueFox90

Jjjjjjjjbarry wrote: »

Is there any chance of an upset at all on Sunday? If Ballygunner have a sort of off day, can DLS win?

I think Ballygunner by 6/7 but as mentioned by other poster De La Salle on their day would be the only team in county id fancy putting it up to them. They still have some fine hurlers and don't have any fear of Ballygunner so here is hoping it is competitive anyway

cul beag

DeiseDawg wrote: »

Was it not said there is a delay in receiving the government funding part of it?

The thing to ask yourself is WHY is there a delay?! I’m sure incompetence isn’t a word they’ll understand but they need to understand it now!

EYEBALLSOUT

Ballygunner to win by 7.
Dls are missing that bit of bottle they had when Mullane was in his pomp

sasta le

Is Mullane still playing club?

whiteandblue

sasta le wrote: »

Is Mullane still playing club?

No

TheScoringGoal

DLS would need Moran fully fit. He clearly wasn't against Mt Sion after the injury against Roanmore. Without Jake Dillon Mt Sion could have beaten them.

sasta le

whiteandblue wrote: »

No

When he finish up?Hes only young

mountgomery burns

sasta le wrote: »

When he finish up?Hes only young

Not sure but he's nearly 39, hard to maintain when your game is based on pace.

Thought DLS forwards did not look nearly as well coached as BGs in terms of movement and use of the ball further back the field. Even MT Sion I actually thought played the better hurling in this regard only DLS physically were far superior. They should be capable of pushing BG, but they'll need to be much better at working scores than they were in the semi final.

thesaturdayman

TheScoringGoal wrote: »

DLS would need Moran fully fit. He clearly wasn't against Mt Sion after the injury against Roanmore. Without Jake Dillon Mt Sion could have beaten them.

is this the same jake dillon that got dogs abuse under dereks reign?

the same one that apparently was only on the team due to his club man managing him?

and the same jake dillon who has consistently been one of best club hurlers in county last 6-7 years?

just checking....:rolleyes:

Jjjjjjjjbarry

Jake has been very good for DLS in fairness and when Michael Ryan brought him into the county set up he looked a great prospect. His name had been mentioned for years online as one of the great prospects coming through. Ironically under Derek he was made to look worse as he was more a work horse and often made huge impacts without the headlines. He usually stepped up in Croke Park too from memory although my memories are often rose tinted.

BlueFox90

thesaturdayman wrote: »

is this the same jake dillon that got dogs abuse under dereks reign?

the same one that apparently was only on the team due to his club man managing him?

and the same jake dillon who has consistently been one of best club hurlers in county last 6-7 years?

just checking....:rolleyes:

I am sure if Jake was hurling for a West Waterford club he would be lauded. It actually works against some of the city players who are deemed to have close relationship with previous management whether true or not. Barry Coughlan another who got a raw deal.

blueflame

Jjjjjjjjbarry wrote: »

Jake has been very good for DLS in fairness and when Michael Ryan brought him into the county set up he looked a great prospect. His name had been mentioned for years online as one of the great prospects coming through. Ironically under Derek he was made to look worse as he was more a work horse and often made huge impacts without the headlines. He usually stepped up in Croke Park too from memory although my memories are often rose tinted.

Have to agree with this - Jake Dillon was and still is a really fine hurler. Extremely intelligent hurler, good ball winner surprisingly enough and a superb finisher - from memory (and I could be wrong) he played full forward for WIT when they won the Fitzgibbon and was probably their outstanding player that year.

I honestly believe he was one of the many talented forwards who suffered under Derek's ultra negative tactics and formation, where he ran himself into the ground, running around the middle of the field, or fighting in a lone role up front. Unfortunately i believe that much of the unfair adjudication that came his was was because of his and Derek's common association with DLS and he is one player I would like to see given another shot by the new management

JesusRef

Jake Dillon was a fantastic player for Waterford, the work he put in, something savage.

I think all sports capital grants were delayed/reduced due to the overspend in the childrens hospital

Mastermcgrath

BlueFox90 wrote: »

I am sure if Jake was hurling for a West Waterford club he would be lauded. It actually works against some of the city players who are deemed to have close relationship with previous management whether true or not. Barry Coughlan another who got a raw deal.

Whatever about Dillon but Coughlan wouldn’t have been an arses roar of the Waterford panel only for McGrath. He didnt even make FB for the co u21s.

Dillon I remember from underage days had phenomanal pace but the time he got to senior it seemed to have left him and he adjusted his game and ended up being a completely different type of player that everyone thought he was going to be.
But yea I’d be in favour of bringing him back in, particularly if Stephen Bennett is unavailable next year

mountgomery burns

Agree re Dillon he was much better than people gave him credit for, don't think City players are prejudiced against however especially Barry Coughlan. But he did play full back for the 21s against Cork in 2010 when they got hammered below in Pairc ui chaoimh.

mountgomery burns

The county final is hardly being televised is it?

debok

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

Whatever about Dillon but Coughlan wouldn’t have been an arses roar of the Waterford panel only for McGrath. He didnt even make FB for the co u21s.

Dillon I remember from underage days had phenomanal pace but the time he got to senior it seemed to have left him and he adjusted his game and ended up being a completely different type of player that everyone thought he was going to be.
But yea I’d be in favour of bringing him back in, particularly if Stephen Bennett is unavailable next year

Was coughlan not nominated for an all star. ? Also not many bad hurlers get to play with ballygunnet for as long as he has without being a good hurler.

whiteandblue

mountgomery burns wrote: »

The county final is hardly being televised is it?

No

PTH2009

anyone knw when the new jersey range is out ??

thesultan

Who is in the minor hurling final?

PTH2009

thesultan wrote: »

Who is in the minor hurling final?

http://www.waterfordgaa.ie/competitionFixturesResults/144863/h_c_div1_k_o

EYEBALLSOUT

thesaturdayman wrote: »

is this the same jake dillon that got dogs abuse under dereks reign?

the same one that apparently was only on the team due to his club man managing him?

and the same jake dillon who has consistently been one of best club hurlers in county last 6-7 years?

just checking....:rolleyes:

Jake Dillon is average at best. Good worker but not at the top intercounty standard im afraid!

Waternut

Eyeball, unfortunately we don't have any as you say 'top intercounty standard' forwards.

Mastermcgrath

debok wrote: »

Was coughlan not nominated for an all star. ? Also not many bad hurlers get to play with ballygunnet for as long as he has without being a good hurler.

Ok I forgot about 2010 but definetly wasn’t picked there the following year in 2011 when he would have been on the age. I’m not saying he didn’t do a job but he wasn’t even close to the county reckoning before McGrath cane along so anything he did achieve he has McGrath to thank for

Motivator

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

Ok I forgot about 2010 but definetly wasn’t picked there the following year in 2011 when he would have been on the age. I’m not saying he didn’t do a job but he wasn’t even close to the county reckoning before McGrath cane along so anything he did achieve he has McGrath to thank for

Coughlan was unbelievable for Ballygunner in 2012 and 2013, he was on the panel when Michael Ryan was in charge in 2013 but he saw no game time. He never put a foot wrong for Waterford and he was nominated for an All Star. He was there on merit as far as I can see and considering how badly the team rolled over last year we could have done with a bit of grit and steel in the full back line.

mountgomery burns

Looking forward to seeing this fella with Waterford next year https://waterford-news.ie/2019/10/08/brightons-loss-is-ballygunners-gain/#.XZ8uQBK_rZQ.twitter

upthedeise16

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Looking forward to seeing this fella with Waterford next year https://waterford-news.ie/2019/10/08/brightons-loss-is-ballygunners-gain/#.XZ8uQBK_rZQ.twitter

Seems a very level headed lad, nice piece

Mastermcgrath

Motivator wrote: »

Coughlan was unbelievable for Ballygunner in 2012 and 2013, he was on the panel when Michael Ryan was in charge in 2013 but he saw no game time. He never put a foot wrong for Waterford and he was nominated for an All Star. He was there on merit as far as I can see and considering how badly the team rolled over last year we could have done with a bit of grit and steel in the full back line.

To say he never put a foot wrong is stretching it, but this argument has been had enough times and Ive nothing against the lad at all. I think of all lines on the field the FB line was one of the very few that cane out of the year with any bit of credit. Prunty and Callum Lyons giving some optimism for the future

hurler on de ditch

EYEBALLSOUT wrote: »

Jake Dillon is average at best. Good worker but not at the top intercounty standard im afraid!

Boloks

EYEBALLSOUT

hurler on de ditch wrote: »

Boloks

V articulate comment tbf.

He’s not rated among intercounty players outside of Waterford. Sorry if that doesn’t sit well with you! 🙄

EYEBALLSOUT

Waternut wrote: »

Eyeball, unfortunately we don't have any as you say 'top intercounty standard' forwards.

It is my biggest concern tbh going into 2020. Good and all as the mgmt team are, I’m not sure how they are going to make top intercounty forwards out of the lads available to them. Every competitive team out there now have at least 4 quality free flowing forwards- this mgmt team has work to do I’m afraid. But best of luck to them. Can’t wait to see the look of them come NHL in Feb.

Jjjjjjjjbarry

Half time Report.
Ballygunner 1-11
De la salle 1-06

DLS asleep for first 15 minutes and went 7 points down. Eddie Meaney bringing DLS back into the game with a goal and some nice points. Pauric Mahoney and Dessie Hutchinson (goal) doing most of the scoring for the Gunners. All to play for in second half but DLS need to start strong.

runjb

Some big early calls if the article is true.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/john-fogarty/new-waterford-hurling-manager-drops-connors-and-shanahan-from-panel-956855.html

PTH2009

runjb wrote: »

Some big early calls if the article is true.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/john-fogarty/new-waterford-hurling-manager-drops-connors-and-shanahan-from-panel-956855.html

Very big calls and undeserved at that

Same old story in the county final but 6 in a row is a great achievement. The Munster Championship will not be easy with Ballygunner having to travel to Clare for the QF in a few weeks

cul beag

PTH2009 wrote: »

Very big calls and undeserved at that

Same old story in the county final but 6 in a row is a great achievement. The Munster Championship will not be easy with Ballygunner having to travel to Clare for the QF in a few weeks

Undeserved? Why?

PTH2009

cul beag wrote: »

Undeserved? Why?

2 great servants who done little wrong in the waterford Jersey

giveitholly

PTH2009 wrote: »

2 great servants who done little wrong in the waterford Jersey

Maybe they are just not good enough anymore

cul beag

runjb wrote: »

Some big early calls if the article is true.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/john-fogarty/new-waterford-hurling-manager-drops-connors-and-shanahan-from-panel-956855.html

Hopefully more to follow. There’s a lot of deadwood on that panel for years. I’m liking this regime already! Shake it up and make your statement Mr. Cahill. Well done.

Alf Tupper

I swear lads I'm not Liam Cahill :D

I hope now that he gave them more than 30 seconds on the phone and that we won't have to listen to him self flagellating on every media outlet available for the next five years about how mean he was. :D

DiscoStew

PTH2009 wrote: »

2 great servants who done little wrong in the waterford Jersey

Done little wrong.
Unfortunately Shanahan hasn’t ever gotten back to 2015 form, has been on and off the panel a fair amount.
Noel’s form dipped dramatically last year.

I think it’s a big statement of intent from management and will probably be others cut too.

Jjjjjjjjbarry

DLS got back to within 2 points with 15 minutes to go. There was a buzz in the air but it was only the buzz from Ballygunners game moving up a gear as they powered ahead in the final quarter to once again dominate the Waterford county championship. Best of luck to them in Munster.