Waterford GAA thread - mod warning post #1 and #51

Deskjockey

Fair play to Kildare and their manager for standing their ground.

No excuses accepted next year -FROM ANYBODY- regarding any acceptance of playing our home games outside the County.
No Nowlan Park.
No Semple Stadium.
No Pairc Ui Caoimh.
No Limerick FFS ( Jesus, who agreed to that?)
No "Sweeteners"
No Compromise
No "doing the right thing"
No Bowing to season ticket holders from other counties
No pats on the head from the Munster Council for toeing the line
NO GIVING AWAY HOME ADVANTAGE

And last but not least....

No negative puke sweeper fear based hurling

Mastermcgrath

Deskjockey wrote: »

Fair play to Kildare and their manager for standing their ground.

No excuses accepted next year -FROM ANYBODY- regarding any acceptance of playing our home games outside the County.
No Nowlan Park.
No Semple Stadium.
No Pairc Ui Caoimh.
No Limerick FFS ( Jesus, who agreed to that?)
No "Sweeteners"
No Compromise
No "doing the right thing"
No Bowing to season ticket holders from other counties
No pats on the head from the Munster Council for toeing the line
NO GIVING AWAY HOME ADVANTAGE

And last but not least....

No negative puke sweeper fear based hurling

Except that Walsh Park is being refurbished.

Deskjockey

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

Except that Walsh Park is being refurbished.

So what - play it in Fraher Field.

Play it in Leamybrien as far as I care.

Just don't go outside Co Waterford

Mastermcgrath

Deskjockey wrote: »

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

Except that Walsh Park is being refurbished.

So what - play it in Fraher Field.

Play it in Leamybrien as far as I care.

Just don't go outside Co Waterford

You go girl

cul beag

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

There is a worrying lack of candidates within the county if he is one of the front runners. For me the only viable candidate within the county so far is Sean Power.
I like the idea of Paul Flynn aswell. He is very highly rated as a coach and was an absolute genius of a player. But management is a different ball game.
Of the other names mentioned; Hartley made a b*****x of the u21s a few years ago. Forget about him. Ken McGrath would be romantic choice but truthfully the noises coming out  his time in charge of Mount Sion were not great. Peter Queally only barely missed out on the job when Derek got it a few years ago. Could be in the mix again. As for this Jason Ryan thing, if that names starts cropping up again it says it all.
Ultimately I believe we will be looking back outside the county for the right man.

Jason Ryan will be cropping up again!

Jjjjjjjbarry

A few years back, he was a popular candidate on here.

PTH2009

We could do a Dublin on it with Jason Ryan along with an experienced hurling brain. He would also be a good man to have as a physical trainer in the set up

The players need to be consulted about who they want for the job cause you knw our CB

DiscoStew

PTH2009 wrote: »

We could do a Dublin on it with Jason Ryan along with an experienced hurling brain. He would also be a good man to have as a physical trainer in the set up

The players need to be consulted about who they want for the job cause you knw our CB

We couldn’t really. If the money isn’t there for a manager how is it going to be there for a top coach? Anthony Cunningham is probably getting as much as any intercounty manager for his role in Dublin.
If we’re going outside and paying up I’d love to see Mattie Kenny. Cuala played a lovely brand of hurling and maybe he would like to kickstart his inter county managerial career now after such success with them.
I don’t see it happening however.

Jjjjjjjbarry

The more I think about, Sean Power, Paul Flynn and one or two good selectors and an excellent fitness coach is the way to go. All well available within the county.

DiscoStew

Jjjjjjjbarry wrote: »

The more I think about, Sean Power, Paul Flynn and one or two good selectors and an excellent fitness coach is the way to go. All well available within the county.

This is the most likely scenario to my mind.

PTH2009

Knowing our CB Fergal Hartley or Peter Quelly will get the job

914

Good to see planning permission has gone in for Walsh Park. Any know if we can view the plans anywhere?

reni10

Where does it say officially that the planning permission has been applied for?

Typical county board again, they should be advertising the fact that they are moving forward but again it is cloak and dagger stuff to find out about anything!

How hard would it be to put a post on their Facebook or Twitter to the plans and a great announcement about the great news on the planning permission etc!

PTH2009

reni10 wrote: »

Where does it say officially that the planning permission has been applied for?

Typical county board again, they should be advertising the fact that they are moving forward but again it is cloak and dagger stuff to find out about anything!

How hard would it be to put a post on their Facebook or Twitter to the plans and a great announcement about the great news on the planning permission etc!

Id be surprised if PJR even knew how to work Facebook/Twitter

Mastermcgrath

PTH2009 wrote: »

We could do a Dublin on it with Jason Ryan along with an experienced hurling brain. He would also be a good man to have as a physical trainer in the set up

The players need to be consulted about who they want for the job cause you knw our CB

The difference with Gilroy is at least he had been successful as a football manager. Ryan has never won anything. Its 10 years since Wexford footballers got to that AI semi final

Motivator

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

The difference with Gilroy is at least he had been successful as a football manager. Ryan has never won anything. Its 10 years since Wexford footballers got to that AI semi final

I think that’s being a bit unfair to Jason Ryan. He did an exceptional job with an average enough Wexford team. They won the league that year and then went on a run in the Championship. They got to their first Leinster Final in years and although they were well beaten in the final he got them back up again to go out and beat Down the following week and then Armagh. They could have beaten Tyrone in the All Ireland semi if Mattie Forde hadn’t gone off injured and an unlucky bounce of a ball stopped them from getting a goal which would have put them level with 10 mins to go. The heads went down after that but he got them in some shape.

They should have won the 2011 Leinster Final too only a terrible error by their keeper led to an own goal and Dublin got a few scores after that. Ryan did an incredible job with that team and he’s still spoken of very fondly by people in Wexford. Dunno what happened with Kildare but he’s a good man and his achievements shouldn’t be underestimated. For all that Jason is, Waterford senior hurling anything he is not.

914

reni10 wrote: »

Where does it say officially that the planning permission has been applied for?

Typical county board again, they should be advertising the fact that they are moving forward but again it is cloak and dagger stuff to find out about anything!

How hard would it be to put a post on their Facebook or Twitter to the plans and a great announcement about the great news on the planning permission etc!

Planning notice up on the town end and also in this weeks news and star

Gardner

Excellent interview with DMG on offtheball during the week. well worth a listen. what does stick out locally is the standard of journalism we have in Waterford is complete ****e. Gilroy was excellent in the interview with DMG.

what will happen next with us? the next Waterford manager will get 2 to 3 years and then DMG will return. it was quite obvious from the above mentioned interview.

914

Gardner wrote: »

Excellent interview with DMG on offtheball during the week. well worth a listen. what does stick out locally is the standard of journalism we have in Waterford is complete ****e. Gilroy was excellent in the interview with DMG.

what will happen next with us? the next Waterford manager will get 2 to 3 years and then DMG will return. it was quite obvious from the above mentioned interview.

Why would DMG return? He has had a 5 year stint, one league title, (great achievement), lost two munster, one league and one all ireland final. Won 11 championship games from 21 (a large chunk of those wins were in qualifiers against the likes of westmeath, offaly, laois).

All this with an exceptionally good team. DMG gave it his all and deserves credit for the league title and thanks for the effort but I don't feel his tenure has been a hugh success as some people seem to think as to why people would want him back, I don't understand.

The fact we won the league in his second season we definitely should have pushed on and won at least a provincial title.

PTH2009

Senior championship fixtures

Friday 29th June

•Dungarvan v De La Salle
Walsh Park
@ 8pm

Saturday 30th June

• Ballygunner v Ballyduff Upper
Fraher Field
@ 6:30pm

• Fourmilewater v Tallow
Fraher Field
@ 8pm

Sunday 1st July

•Abbeyside v An Rinn
Bushy Park
@ 6:30pm

• Passage v Roanmore
Walsh Park
@ 6:30pm

• Lismore v Mt Sion
Fraher Field
@ 6:30pm

Top team and best runner up go through to QFs with the remaining teams playing off for the 4 remaining QF spots

KevIRL

Gardner wrote: »

Excellent interview with DMG on offtheball during the week. well worth a listen. what does stick out locally is the standard of journalism we have in Waterford is complete ****e. Gilroy was excellent in the interview with DMG.

what will happen next with us? the next Waterford manager will get 2 to 3 years and then DMG will return. it was quite obvious from the above mentioned interview.

Derek is on the Sunday game panel this Sunday as well, should be a good days hurling

Mastermcgrath

Gardner wrote: »

Excellent interview with DMG on offtheball during the week. well worth a listen. what does stick out locally is the standard of journalism we have in Waterford is complete ****e. Gilroy was excellent in the interview with DMG.

what will happen next with us? the next Waterford manager will get 2 to 3 years and then DMG will return. it was quite obvious from the above mentioned interview.

Did you really think it was a good interview? I thought it was strange to be honest. Very little insights into hurling or his views on the game or the team in general. Talking more about what he learned from arsene Wenger and Mauricio Pochettinos books than he did about inter county hurling management. A lot of ranting and raving. The man talks 1000 words a minute. I’d struggle to listen to him if he was my manager or teacher

cul beag

Gardner wrote: »

Excellent interview with DMG on offtheball during the week. well worth a listen. what does stick out locally is the standard of journalism we have in Waterford is complete ****e. Gilroy was excellent in the interview with DMG.

what will happen next with us? the next Waterford manager will get 2 to 3 years and then DMG will return. it was quite obvious from the above mentioned interview.

The best laugh I’ve had in ages.

914

914 wrote: »

Why would DMG return? He has had a 5 year stint, one league title, (great achievement), lost two munster, one league and one all ireland final. Won 11 championship games from 21 (a large chunk of those wins were in qualifiers against the likes of westmeath, offaly, laois).

All this with an exceptionally good team. DMG gave it his all and deserves credit for the league title and thanks for the effort but I don't feel his tenure has been a hugh success as some people seem to think as to why people would want him back, I don't understand.

The fact we won the league in his second season we definitely should have pushed on and won at least a provincial title.

I forgot to add in the three championship games from this year so that makes 11 wins from 24 championship games

PTH2009

Dungarvan 0-13- DLS 1-10 full time

DLS top group B

Its group A Ballgunner have a superior scoring difference and will top the group regardless of the weekends result

All to play for in Group C with all teams on 2 points. Mount Sion vs Lismore and passage vs Fourmilewater the games this weekend

cul beag

Shocking stuff in Walsh Park. The county championship will Be Ballygunner’s to lose going on tonight. Dungarvan scored 5 pts and DLS scored 4pts in the second half which should tell you all you need to know.

deiseach

914 wrote: »

Planning notice up on the town end and also in this weeks news and star

https://twitter.com/LiamCheasty1/status/1012720570834784256

PTH2009

Bloody hell
https://twitter.com/ballygunnerHc/status/1013120535524462593?s=19

Ballygunner not holding back

KevIRL

PTH2009 wrote: »

Bloody hell
https://twitter.com/ballygunnerHc/status/1013120535524462593?s=19

Ballygunner not holding back

7-26 0-7 now

PTH2009

https://twitter.com/ballygunnerHc/status/1013133065265311744?s=19

PTH2009

Are Ballyduff Upper as a club struggling for numbers or are Ballygunner that good. Very good scoring from them and looking like nobody will stop them

ovalu

PTH2009 wrote: »

Are Ballyduff Upper as a club struggling for numbers or are Ballygunner that good.

Ballyduff aren't too bad they're fielding 2 teams at adult level, but its a bit like looking at this year's leinster football final and saying ' are laois struggling for numbers or are dublin that good'

thesultan

PTH2009 wrote: »

Are Ballyduff Upper as a club struggling for numbers or are Ballygunner that good. Very good scoring from them and looking like nobody will stop them

Ballyduff are missing Mikey Kearney and a few others. For a small club to miss one would be a massive loss to loose any more they can't cope.

Local_Chap

thesultan wrote: »

Ballyduff are missing Mikey Kearney and a few others. For a small club to miss one would be a massive loss to loose any more they can't cope.

Ballygunner were missing Philip Mahony and Barry Coughlan I'm guessing?

PTH2009

These big wins for Ballygunner is good for Fergal Hartleys CV for the Waterford job

Result from last night- Tallow 1-14- Fourmilewater 1-13

Today's senior games
Grp A- Abbeyside vs An Rinn- 6.30
Grp C- Lismore vs Mount Sion- 6.30
Grp C- Passage vs Roanmore- 6.30

PTH2009

First Kildare are allowed play in Newbridge and now the Leinster final replay takes place in Thurles!!!!

No reason why we we couldn't play our home games in Walsh Park or Kilkenny?

redlead

PTH2009 wrote: »

First Kildare are allowed play in Newbridge and now the Leinster final replay takes place in Thurles!!!!

No reason why we we couldn't play our home games in Walsh Park or Kilkenny?

The Waterford County board shown up to be a complete bunch of incompetent dopes again.

Deisegodeo

County board looking worse and worse the more this season goes on, how they allowed us to be screwed over is shameful. As much we rightly blame the board for their poor efforts, you would expect to be treated with fairness by the decision makers, some thing shown up during the week by Kildare also.

KevIRL

Mt sion 4-17 lismore 2-15
Passage 1-11 roanmore 0-13
Abbeyside hammer An Rinn

deise08

PTH2009 wrote: »

First Kildare are allowed play in Newbridge and now the Leinster final replay takes place in Thurles!!!!

No reason why we we couldn't play our home games in Walsh Park or Kilkenny?

My blood is boiling reading this!!!!

reni10

When are the county board going to resign?

How come everyone else gets exactly what they want and we just have to put up with whatever we are told and don't say a word!
They are an absolute disgrace and it went right through the management and players this year.

All Ireland final last year to worst team in Munster, I am so angry that these absolute dopes are still in charge!

PTH2009

reni10 wrote: »

When are the county board going to resign?

How come everyone else gets exactly what they want and we just have to put up with whatever we are told and don't say a word!
They are an absolute disgrace and it went right through the management and players this year.

All Ireland final last year to worst team in Munster, I am so angry that these absolute dopes are still in charge!

And there in charge of hiring a new senior hurling management team

Deise today should be interesting next week if this fiasco is mentioned

reni10

Absolutely no confidence in them picking a new manager.

They should all resign now and get someone else in to pick the manager, someone who actually even has half of one ball would be a great start!

Mastermcgrath

reni10 wrote: »

Absolutely no confidence in them picking a new manager.

They should all resign now and get someone else in to pick the manager, someone who actually even has half of one ball would be a great start!

If its the same process as when Derek McGrath was appointed, a recruitment team was put in in place to interview potential candidates, involving ex-players (I think James Murray & Stephen Frampton to name a couple) amongst a few other respected figures in the county. The recommendation is made by the recruitment team and put forward to the co board who ratifies it. So that way at least the candidates are recommended by people who know and understand the game. But you're right, if its down to the county board I wouldn't like to predict who might be considered...

Mastermcgrath

deise08 wrote: »

PTH2009 wrote: »

First Kildare are allowed play in Newbridge and now the Leinster final replay takes place in Thurles!!!!

No reason why we we couldn't play our home games in Walsh Park or Kilkenny?

My blood is boiling reading this!!!!

Interesting that the 2 games we actually played nearest to our potential in were the 2  'homes games', at the GG V Tipp and Thurles v Cork. I have no doubt the fact they were not Tipp or Corks home grounds either played a factor. If the games were played within the county you'd like to think it would have been enough for us to get over the line in both these games.
Looking ahead to next year, the Leinster Council and GAA have backed down in the past week with fixtures, now is our chance to take down the biggest bully of all, the Munster Council. The precedent has been set and we should nominate Fraher Field as our home venue for next year and Nowlan Park as the alternative venue if they decide the Fraher doesn't 'pass health and safety' ($$$).  Limerick have a big following and no doubt their fans will travel wherever but im sure would  love the novelty of a trip to KK.
Clare like us don't have massive support for every game and I think Fraher Field is well capable of hosting a Munster Championship clash between both sides with the attendance capacity of 6.6k. There have been recent clashes between both sides in Munster that attracted barely 10k in Thurles.
I do believe Munster council will try and fix both for Thurles but in light of all what has happened this year we have to dig in our heels. Playing the games in Thurles is no disadvantage to either Clare or Limerick and were looking at another season with our backs to the walls again.

Deiselurker

There's not a hope that Fraher Field could be used because of it's limited capacity. It would mean thousands of fans who would like to go could not get tickets like what happened in Newbridge.
It is interesting that the Leinster council are more flexible than the Munster council to games outside their province.
Also what about Colm Bonnar as an option for new senior manager. He has a lot of experience between WIT, Wexford, various club teams and now Carlow who he has managed to promotion in the league and now championship.

Mastermcgrath

Deiselurker wrote: »

There's not a hope that Fraher Field could be used because of it's limited capacity. It would mean thousands of fans who would like to go could not get tickets like what happened in Newbridge.
It is interesting that the Leinster council are more flexible than the Munster council to games outside their province.
Also what about Colm Bonnar as an option for new senior manager. He has a lot of experience between WIT, Wexford, various club teams and now Carlow who he has managed to promotion in the league and now championship.

But look at the posts above, these people up in arms complaining about having to go to a neutral venue for our 'home games' will have to accept that they'll be sitting at home watching it if their that caught up on principals. Nowlan Park is the best way forward.
Colm Bonnar is a decent shout. Better than a lot of the names being bandied around for sure. Also he lives in the county and knows the scene well. His record with WIT is pretty phenomenal. I think he has won 5 Fitzgibbon Cups over a period of 10 years. 
John Meyler was seen as someone like Bonner who was around the block with many years aswell, managing Carlow, Kerry and Wexford before eventually landing a the big job in Cork (Wexford were in a hole when he was in charge of them, as with Bonner).He has Cork motoring well.

PTH2009

More than likely Colm Bonnor will stay with Carlow

He managed Wexford a few years ago and didnt do much with them

DeiseDawg

What way does local senior hurling championship rum?
Top team in each group plus top second team go straight to quarter finals
Where teams are level on points is it score difference or head to head result that decides?

PTH2009

DeiseDawg wrote: »

What way does local senior hurling championship rum?
Top team in each group plus top second team go straight to quarter finals
Where teams are level on points is it score difference or head to head result that decides?

Afaik

Teams in the QFs- Ballygunner, De La Salle and Mount Sion top there groups and Abbeyside go through as best 2nd from Grp A

Passage, Roanmore, Lismore,Dungarvan, Fourmilewater, Tallow, Ballyduff Upper and An Rinn into the Prem round. 4 winners into QFs and 4 losers into relagation zone