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PTH2009

Eastern Intermediate semi final result-
Ballyduff lower 4-16- Erin's Own 0-16

Mastermcgrath

Teebor15 wrote: »

There's alot of "Shoulda, woulda, coulda" in that paragraph!

Your missing the point which he makes is quite valid . There was only a puck of the ball between us and all the other counties at minor level last year. While disappointing not to win a game we were very competitive and not like we were way off the pace so there’s hope for the future .

mountgomery burns

Some dose, thought the game was on at 2.30!

DeiseDawg

Mount Sion 3.15 DLS 16pts second water break

PTH2009

https://twitter.com/WaterfordGAA/status/1295002459547545600?s=19

Wasn't expecting that from Mount Sion, Aussie sent off with 2 yellows

mountgomery burns

What age is Luke O Brien?

Christy Browne

mountgomery burns wrote: »

What age is Luke O Brien?

20/21 at most

mountgomery burns

Christy Browne wrote: »

20/21 at most

He looks very good these past few weeks

Christy Browne

mountgomery burns wrote: »

He looks very good these past few weeks

O’Brien, Fanning, J.Gleeson, McGrath, Kirwan and Meaney all U21 from Mount Sion team today.

PTH2009

https://twitter.com/west_waterford/status/1295010628474671106?s=19

Ballyduff upper vs Clashmore Western Intermediate final

willietherock

Christy Browne wrote: »

O’Brien, Fanning, J.Gleeson, McGrath, Kirwan and Meaney all U21 from Mount Sion team today.

Great Mount Sion surnames

Jjjjjjjjbarry

Great win for Mount Sion. Martin O’Neill is in great form. Aussie unlucky to get two yellows. His pass for their first goal was class.

Cornerstoner

Jjjjjjjjbarry wrote: »

Great win for Mount Sion. Martin O’Neill is in great form. Aussie unlucky to get two yellows. His pass for their first goal was class.

Correct me if I’m wrong but thats the Martin O’Neill that captained the Waterford minor team to win the Munster championship in 2009. Always wondered how he never went on to make the break through at Senior level. Would he be worth looking at again?

deisedude

Cornerstoner wrote: »

Correct me if I’m wrong but thats the Martin O’Neill that captained the Waterford minor team to win the Munster championship in 2009. Always wondered how he never went on to make the break through at Senior level. Would he be worth looking at again?

I thought he was the pick of that crop at the time and that was a good minor team. Probably lacked that touch of pace for inter county

Christy Browne

Cornerstoner wrote: »

Correct me if I’m wrong but thats the Martin O’Neill that captained the Waterford minor team to win the Munster championship in 2009. Always wondered how he never went on to make the break through at Senior level. Would he be worth looking at again?

Correct, he was in Canada past few years, only came back this year.

PTH2009

https://twitter.com/gaadunhill/status/1295063345557536770?s=19

Dunhill vs Ballyduff Lower Eastern Intermediate Final

PTH2009

Semi final draw
Ballygunner vs Lismore
Mount Sion vs Passage

Deise_abu

Ballygunner v Lismore
Mount sion v Passage

PTH2009

I'd go for a Ballygunner vs Mount Sion final

Jjjjjjjjbarry

Abbeyside disappointing tonight. Kiely not even in the game. Prunty played really well though.

Oisin O’Gorman and Iarlaith Daly were brilliant for Lismore. Be interesting to see if they can do anything to unsettle Ballygunner? Probably not but it is 2020 after all.

PTH2009

https://twitter.com/WaterfordGAA/status/1295075097166979075?s=19

deisedude

I hope the two Ballyduffs play each other in the intermediate final and the loser has to change their name!!!

PTH2009

deisedude wrote: »

I hope the two Ballyduffs play each other in the intermediate final and the loser has to change their name!!!

Is it only in GAA there's upper and lower ?

Ballyduff is the villages name for both areas

Cake Man

Any detailed reports from either game lads?

TheScoringGoal

Cake Man wrote: »

Any detailed reports from either game lads?

I think the examiner have reports for both online.

thesultan

Question on Mount Sion.
From the standard blue Jersey, they are worn a laois styled blue with white hoop, white Jersey with blue hoop and blue and white hooped Jersey. Why do many changes?

killbillvol2

thesultan wrote: »

Question on Mount Sion.
From the standard blue Jersey, they are worn a laois styled blue with white hoop, white Jersey with blue hoop and blue and white hooped Jersey. Why do many changes?

Laundry issues.

Deise Gael

deisedude wrote: »

I hope the two Ballyduffs play each other in the intermediate final and the loser has to change their name!!!

The two Ballyduffs played against each other in the first ever intermediate final in Waterford in 1964. Ballyduff Upper came out on top. Tom Cheasty played in that final for Ballyduff Lower.

lertsnim

Jjjjjjjjbarry wrote: »

Abbeyside disappointing tonight. Kiely not even in the game.

Hard to be when they were going for stupid long range efforts all game instead of playing into the forwards.

Deisegodeo

Mount Sion were very impressive yesterday, but DLS were very disappointing, I thought they may be the team to challenge Ballygunner's dominance but no such chance.

Abbeyside were also very disappointing, but huge credit to Lismore, aside from Ballygunner they have been the most impressive team from what i have seen. And some really good young players, the more i see of Iarla Daly the more impressed I am, a class act. And now this other teenager Oisin O'Connor is making an impact, 1-5 from play yesterday was really impressive.

Must give a mention to Beth Carton too, she scored 4-16 for DLS... what an incredible scoring spree, she must be a nightmare to try to mark!

PTH2009

Love to see Mount Sion or Lismore win it

Ballygunner powering through the semi final and final is very possible. Lismore might give them a game

Passage the so called weakest team in the semi finals but we all know how Mount Sions form is so up and down

Gardner

Report from Mount Sion vs DLS game

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40033160.html

"At the start of the second half, a man was escorted out of the ground by five members of An Garda Síochána." any idea what happened here?

PTH2009

Gardner wrote: »

Report from Mount Sion vs DLS game

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40033160.html

"At the start of the second half, a man was escorted out of the ground by five members of An Garda Síochána." any idea what happened here?

The city rivalry is still particularly strong then

No idea and the first I've heard of that ?, maybe he sneaked in or something

I think it was the 2012 semi final between DLS and Sion and all hell broke loose. It was one of the most ill tempered games I ever saw

DeiseDawg

Is Austin Gleeson being reffed on his reputation and not what's happening on the day?

HelloHello1234

Gardner wrote: »

Report from Mount Sion vs DLS game

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40033160.html

"At the start of the second half, a man was escorted out of the ground by five members of An Garda Síochána." any idea what happened here?

I believe he tried to get access first but saying he had to drop in a spare hurley that he was carrying to a player.

he was then told hed need a ticket and hopped the wall.

Said person is rumoured to have smashed up specsavers in town with said hurley

deiseach

HelloHello1234 wrote: »

I believe he tried to get access first but saying he had to drop in a spare hurley that he was carrying to a player.

he was then told hed need a ticket and hopped the wall.

Said person is rumoured to have smashed up specsavers in town with said hurley

Coming to 'Bog Cuttings' in a future issue of Phoenix magazine...

tommylad1212

DeiseDawg wrote: »

Is Austin Gleeson being reffed on his reputation and not what's happening on the day?

What do you think ?

TheScoringGoal

DeiseDawg wrote: »

Is Austin Gleeson being reffed on his reputation and not what's happening on the day?

I thought his red against Roanmore was harsh but the two yellows yesterday were correct. However just before the first one he was clearly annoyed at a stroke on him. The stream didn't really pick it up though so I can't say whether he had a case or not.

To be fair to him he took over in the second half and De La Salle had no answer to him. I'd also suggest that that Martin O Neill was lucky to only see yellow for a loose pull.

mountgomery burns

So two questions from the weekend:

1) What did happen with your man being ejected from Walsh Park?

2) Why has big Dan got 10 and 14 on his legs?

Christy Browne

Fella hopped the wall and was bothering people on the line/dugout from what I understand. You may recognise him from a video our favourite local radio journalist did on the quay. Good for mouth ulcers...

grimbergen

Spent a great week in W'ford last week on holidays and as a GAA man I like to figure out where the well known clubs are located etc.

One question - why aren't Tramore a more prominent club? Big town with decent population etc.

mountgomery burns

grimbergen wrote: »

Spent a great week in W'ford last week on holidays and as a GAA man I like to figure out where the well known clubs are located etc.

One question - why aren't Tramore a more prominent club? Big town with decent population etc.

The soccer mainly

seananigans

grimbergen wrote: »

Spent a great week in W'ford last week on holidays and as a GAA man I like to figure out where the well known clubs are located etc.

One question - why aren't Tramore a more prominent club? Big town with decent population etc.

strange name for a hurling fan, named after a belgian beer.Tramore has always struggled for some reason , couple of reasons.

1.Lots of teenagers gets summer jobs Down around , or in the pubs/hotels so the numbers tend to fall off early enough in peoples development.
2.Clubs location means its not the heart of the community as most people live in tramore heights/ ring road/cliff road, ideally we'd have a second club where the golf clubs front 9 is to cater for this side of town ,uptown also tends to be more affluent and these are the people,who can afford to invest in their kids.
3.for some reason Tramore is more concerned with football than hurling.
4. The last 25 years saw a lot of townies moving out to Tramore . but those who were involved in Hurling tend to put their kids back into the town clubs they came from, Aussie Gleeson playing for Mt Sion being the most famous example(no parish rule across tramore/waterford .
5.No one wants to put their kids into a losing team, theres 3 soccer clubs in tramore and a new minis rugby team the last few years , they tend to suck up the numbers
6.No one in the cobo has done a development plan, to try and correct these issues and develop tramore more.facilites are fine something else is wrong, you compare with dungarvan and its similar population its a real shame.

for ref i am from tramore but was never involved with the club so dont know its inner workings

Had to edit as have thought more about Dungarvan , a few years ago got massive investment in the schools and were allowed an amalgamated schools team, ,which won back to back harty's i think ? all those players went back to their clubs abbeyside /an rinn/ dungarvan itself , im sure someone will point out i missed a few clubs,or i may be wrong about the catchment for dungarvan second level catchment on one or 2 of those

PTH2009

seananigans wrote: »

strange name for a hurling fan, named after a belgian beer.Tramore has always struggled for some reason , couple of reasons.

1.Lots of teenagers gets summer jobs Down around , or in the pubs/hotels so the numbers tend to fall off early enough in peoples development.
2.Clubs location means its not the heart of the community as most people live in tramore heights/ ring road/cliff road, ideally we'd have a second club where the golf clubs front 9 is to cater for this side of town ,uptown also tends to be more affluent and these are the people,who can afford to invest in their kids.
3.for some reason Tramore is more concerned with football than hurling.
4. The last 25 years saw a lot of townies moving out to Tramore . but those who were involved in Hurling tend to put their kids back into the town clubs they came from, Aussie Gleeson playing for Mt Sion being the most famous example(no parish rule across tramore/waterford .
5.No one wants to put their kids into a losing team, theres 3 soccer clubs in tramore and a new minis rugby team the last few years , they tend to suck up the numbers
6.No one in the cobo has done a development plan, to try and correct these issues and develop tramore more.facilites are fine something else is wrong, you compare with dungarvan and its similar population its a real shame.

for ref i am from tramore but was never involved with the club so dont know its inner workings

Had to edit as have thought more about Dungarvan , a few years ago got massive investment in the schools and were allowed an amalgamated schools team, ,which won back to back harty's i think ? all those players went back to their clubs abbeyside /an rinn/ dungarvan itself , im sure someone will point out i missed a few clubs,or i may be wrong about the catchment for dungarvan second level catchment on one or 2 of those

i think Tramore were in a Junior County final a few years back ?, its a shame as the ground is always in decent condition and one of the first places you see when u come into Tramore

Looked it up and they played in the County Junior hurling finals 2013 & 2018, losing twice to Ballysaggart and Ballinameela respectively

TheScoringGoal

seananigans wrote: »

strange name for a hurling fan, named after a belgian beer.Tramore has always struggled for some reason , couple of reasons.

1.Lots of teenagers gets summer jobs Down around , or in the pubs/hotels so the numbers tend to fall off early enough in peoples development.
2.Clubs location means its not the heart of the community as most people live in tramore heights/ ring road/cliff road, ideally we'd have a second club where the golf clubs front 9 is to cater for this side of town ,uptown also tends to be more affluent and these are the people,who can afford to invest in their kids.
3.for some reason Tramore is more concerned with football than hurling.
4. The last 25 years saw a lot of townies moving out to Tramore . but those who were involved in Hurling tend to put their kids back into the town clubs they came from, Aussie Gleeson playing for Mt Sion being the most famous example(no parish rule across tramore/waterford .
5.No one wants to put their kids into a losing team, theres 3 soccer clubs in tramore and a new minis rugby team the last few years , they tend to suck up the numbers
6.No one in the cobo has done a development plan, to try and correct these issues and develop tramore more.facilites are fine something else is wrong, you compare with dungarvan and its similar population its a real shame.

for ref i am from tramore but was never involved with the club so dont know its inner workings

Had to edit as have thought more about Dungarvan , a few years ago got massive investment in the schools and were allowed an amalgamated schools team, ,which won back to back harty's i think ? all those players went back to their clubs abbeyside /an rinn/ dungarvan itself , im sure someone will point out i missed a few clubs,or i may be wrong about the catchment for dungarvan second level catchment on one or 2 of those

Austin isn't from Tramore. Eamonn Power of Roanmore would have played with Tramore as he's from there. Shane McNulty is from Tramore too but I don't think be ever played with them.

The reason the club isn't where it should be with the population that it has is the club itself. For years it was ran extremely poorly with no engagement or attachment within the community. Underage due to numbers and the soccer club's influence Tramore often won juvenile football competitions but by the time minor came around the numbers were gone and the soccer skills aren't enough any more. It does seem as there have been efforts made in recent years for them to address this and become more of a community focal point.

I am aware of a story around ten years ago when some members of the Tramore hurling team went into the club bar to watch Waterford in an all Ireland quarter or semi final but were told that they were showing Man United that day so they should go elsewhere.

OEP

seananigans wrote: »

strange name for a hurling fan, named after a belgian beer.Tramore has always struggled for some reason , couple of reasons.

1.Lots of teenagers gets summer jobs Down around , or in the pubs/hotels so the numbers tend to fall off early enough in peoples development.
2.Clubs location means its not the heart of the community as most people live in tramore heights/ ring road/cliff road, ideally we'd have a second club where the golf clubs front 9 is to cater for this side of town ,uptown also tends to be more affluent and these are the people,who can afford to invest in their kids.
3.for some reason Tramore is more concerned with football than hurling.
4. The last 25 years saw a lot of townies moving out to Tramore . but those who were involved in Hurling tend to put their kids back into the town clubs they came from, Aussie Gleeson playing for Mt Sion being the most famous example(no parish rule across tramore/waterford .
5.No one wants to put their kids into a losing team, theres 3 soccer clubs in tramore and a new minis rugby team the last few years , they tend to suck up the numbers
6.No one in the cobo has done a development plan, to try and correct these issues and develop tramore more.facilites are fine something else is wrong, you compare with dungarvan and its similar population its a real shame.

for ref i am from tramore but was never involved with the club so dont know its inner workings

Had to edit as have thought more about Dungarvan , a few years ago got massive investment in the schools and were allowed an amalgamated schools team, ,which won back to back harty's i think ? all those players went back to their clubs abbeyside /an rinn/ dungarvan itself , im sure someone will point out i missed a few clubs,or i may be wrong about the catchment for dungarvan second level catchment on one or 2 of those

The club must be just badly run. Dungarvan/Abbeyside has three soccer clubs, two GAA clubs and a rugby club - kids play more than one sport. Tramore soccer club is very strong so that does take a bit way but it's not the main reason.

tommylad1212

seananigans wrote: »

strange name for a hurling fan, named after a belgian beer.Tramore has always struggled for some reason , couple of reasons.

1.Lots of teenagers gets summer jobs Down around , or in the pubs/hotels so the numbers tend to fall off early enough in peoples development.
2.Clubs location means its not the heart of the community as most people live in tramore heights/ ring road/cliff road, ideally we'd have a second club where the golf clubs front 9 is to cater for this side of town ,uptown also tends to be more affluent and these are the people,who can afford to invest in their kids.
3.for some reason Tramore is more concerned with football than hurling.
4. The last 25 years saw a lot of townies moving out to Tramore . but those who were involved in Hurling tend to put their kids back into the town clubs they came from, Aussie Gleeson playing for Mt Sion being the most famous example(no parish rule across tramore/waterford .
5.No one wants to put their kids into a losing team, theres 3 soccer clubs in tramore and a new minis rugby team the last few years , they tend to suck up the numbers
6.No one in the cobo has done a development plan, to try and correct these issues and develop tramore more.facilites are fine something else is wrong, you compare with dungarvan and its similar population its a real shame.

for ref i am from tramore but was never involved with the club so dont know its inner workings

Had to edit as have thought more about Dungarvan , a few years ago got massive investment in the schools and were allowed an amalgamated schools team, ,which won back to back harty's i think ? all those players went back to their clubs abbeyside /an rinn/ dungarvan itself , im sure someone will point out i missed a few clubs,or i may be wrong about the catchment for dungarvan second level catchment on one or 2 of those

What's the 3 soccer clubs in tramore? Tramore afc, tramore rangers , .............?

tommylad1212

PTH2009 wrote: »

i think Tramore were in a Junior County final a few years back ?, its a shame as the ground is always in decent condition and one of the first places you see when u come into Tramore

Looked it up and they played in the County Junior hurling finals 2013 & 2018, losing twice to Ballysaggart and Ballinameela respectively

Tramore are in this years junior A and junior c, eastern finals this weekend so numbers must be ok,

Deisegodeo

tramore has long been the problem with regard to producing players for county teams, second biggest population centre after the city but a very poor record of producing players and performing at club level.

lots of possible reasons, the town is traditionally a soccer town, two premier dvision clubs in the local league, with tramore afc arguably the strongest team in the league.

for me the biggest reason is the lack of parish rule and young lads living in tramore being brought into clubs in the city for the hurling. I saw lads playing hurling on a green in an estate in tramore a few years back and they all wearing mount sion jerseys.

I would love to see a big focus on improving standards in tramore, with a major focus on getting children involved in the local club. I think we currently have a very good spread across the city and county representing the county teams, from east to west, with the big exception being tramore.

Cake Man

tommylad1212 wrote: »

What's the 3 soccer clubs in tramore? Tramore afc, tramore rangers , .............?

Could be wrong as I dong know the soccer scene too well but it could be Seaview Celtic?

Just from my own observations I always got the impression with Tramore youngsters, being a beach town, many got into alternative sports like skateboarding and surfing. There was always the skatepark down the end of the prom and a few surf schools. May not have counted for many but I’m sure it probably would have pulled away a few lads from the GAA scene, combined with some of the other factors mentioned in previous posts.