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Mulbert

Plus Peter Hogan hasn't suddenly got called up to the senior panel, I'd say this is his third year been involved.

Jjjjjjjbarry

What time is the game starting on Sunday in Fraher Field?
Wooly hats will be needed!

PTH2009

Jjjjjjjbarry wrote: »

What time is the game starting on Sunday in Fraher Field?
Wooly hats will be needed!

2pm, it was originally 3pm

I think The footballers face Clare in the McGrath cup semi final at 1pm in Ballinacourty the same day

OldBoro

Jjjjjjjbarry wrote: »

What time is the game starting on Sunday in Fraher Field?
Wooly hats will be needed!

2pm

Ropaire

Early in the year yet i know, but does anyone know who is on the extended panel at the minute out of curiosity?

PTH2009

http://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/293887

PTH2009

The Waterford Senior Hurling Team to face Clare in tomorrows Co-Op Superstores Munster Hurling League game has been announced...

1. Billy Nolan (Roanmore)
2. Darragh Lyons (Dungarvan)
3. Conor Prunty (Abbeyside)
4. Noel Connors (Passage) - Captain
5. Micheal Harney (Bunmahon)
6. Austin Gleeson (Mount Sion)
7. Kieran Bennett (Ballysaggart)
8. Jamie Barron (Fourmilewater)
9. Stephen Roche (Mount Sion)
10. Colin Dunford (Colligan)
11. Shane Bennett (Ballysaggart)
12. DJ Foran (Portlaw)
13. Thomas Ryan (Tallow)
14. Stephen Bennett (Ballysaggart)
15. Jack Prendergast (Lismore)

Best of Luck to Pauric Fanning, his management team and all the Panel!

Throw in is at 2pm in Fraher Field! Show your support!

#Deiseabú

KevIRL

Nice looking team be interesting to see how prunty goes at full back. When was the last time three brothers started a senior game for Waterford?

upthedeise16

KevIRL wrote: »

Nice looking team be interesting to see how prunty goes at full back. When was the last time three brothers started a senior game for Waterford?

Probably the Bennett’s 2 years ago

KevIRL

upthedeise16 wrote: »

Probably the Bennett’s 2 years ago

What game did they all start? I can't remember off the top of my head

Deiselurker

Did they all start the All Ireland final or was it just Kieran and Shane?
Anyway the team above shows the management are not ignoring players from junior clubs as Bonmahon and I think Colligan too are junior.

KevIRL

Deiselurker wrote: »

Did they all start the All Ireland final or was it just Kieran and Shane?
Anyway the team above shows the management are not ignoring players from junior clubs as Bonmahon and I think Colligan too are junior.

Just Kieran and Shane. Think Stephen replaced Shane as it happens

DiscoStew

KevIRL wrote: »

Just Kieran and Shane. Think Stephen replaced Shane as it happens

Maurice replaced Shane. Stephen was an unused sub as far as I recall. Maurice, O’Halloran, Ryan, Dunford and Curran were the ones introduced if memory serves me right.

KevIRL

DiscoStew wrote: »

Maurice replaced Shane. Stephen was an unused sub as far as I recall. Maurice, O’Halloran, Ryan, Dunford and Curran were the ones introduced if memory serves me right.

Ah yes, I stand corrected

PTH2009

so Maurice quietly retired or is he taking a year out like Jake Dillion ??

DiscoStew

PTH2009 wrote: »

so Maurice quietly retired or is he taking a year out like Jake Dillion ??

Unconfirmed as far as I’m aware. He started off training with the panel and left around the same time as Tom Devine was forced into taking a break. Maurice has left the panel before so maybe he will return. Would have thought with Tom gone and Paudie missing some of the league there was a big opening for him to nail down a starting spot.

Simo08

DiscoStew wrote: »

Unconfirmed as far as I’m aware. He started off training with the panel and left around the same time as Tom Devine was forced into taking a break. Maurice has left the panel before so maybe he will return. Would have thought with Tom gone and Paudie missing some of the league there was a big opening for him to nail down a starting spot.

Sorry if this has been asked already but why is Devine gone from the panel?

KevIRL

Simo08 wrote: »

Sorry if this has been asked already but why is Devine gone from the panel?

Career commitments

DiscoStew

KevIRL wrote: »

Career commitments

And after effects of a concussion received in the intermediate football county final. Hopefully if he makes a full recovery from that he might be able to juggle the work commitments, although he would be the exception to the rule if he did manage to do so. A huge loss to the panel.

Mastermcgrath

DiscoStew wrote: »

And after effects of a concussion received in the intermediate football county final. Hopefully if he makes a full recovery from that he might be able to juggle the work commitments, although he would be the exception to the rule if he did manage to do so. A huge loss to the panel.

I wouldn’t be holding my breath on Devine from what I’ve heard. He’s made his mind up that he’s pretty much done with the inter county scene for good. even if he did make a u-turn 2 or 3 years further down the line he’d hardly be the same player after that long out of the game.

Disappointing but that’s life and you move on

KevIRL

Is the reason for no double header with the McGrath cup Waterford v Clare game just down to the pitch not taking two games at this time of year? Or just more pi$$ poor organisation?

Mastermcgrath

KevIRL wrote: »

Is the reason for no double header with the McGrath cup Waterford v Clare game just down to the pitch not taking two games at this time of year? Or just more pi$$ poor organisation?

I can’t think when was the last time there was a double header with the hurlers and footballers, even when both were playing at home the same day

DiscoStew

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

I can’t think when was the last time there was a double header with the hurlers and footballers, even when both were playing at home the same day

It was originally scheduled as a double header I believe. Can only be down to the pitch that it’s changed as the football game was moved ever before the hurling was brought forward an hour.

KevIRL

Decent crowd here in Dungarvan. Word just announced on the tannoy that HT in the football is Clare 1-8 waterord 0-2

Lovely day for it

KevIRL

Clare 8 2 ahead after 13 mins

KevIRL

Clare 1-14 Waterford 1-5 HT. Stephen Bennett with all the scores. The goal coming on the half hour the only one from play

KevIRL

1-17 1-11. Twenty to go

KevIRL

Second Clare goal after Waterford had got it back to 4

KevIRL

Clare 2-20 Waterford 3-16. Mad finish to it

cul beag

Good positive workout. Clare seem to be ahead of us with their preparation but if nothing else we found a fullback. Prunty was outstanding.

JesusRef

cul beag wrote: »

Good positive workout. Clare seem to be ahead of us with their preparation but if nothing else we found a fullback. Prunty was outstanding.

Brillo

DiscoStew

cul beag wrote: »

Good positive workout. Clare seem to be ahead of us with their preparation but if nothing else we found a fullback. Prunty was outstanding.

Ya even though we were dominated in the first half there were definitely a lot of positives to take from it. Prunty was a big one, as was Billy Nolan who made 3 excellent saves. Darragh Lyons was impressive also before having to be withdrawn after making an excellent block. Moran was outstanding when introduced wing back. Stephen Bennett was exceptional full forward, nailed every free and really carried the fight to the Clare defence.
Negatives, well our half back line was cleaned out in the first half. Harney had an exceptionally tough introduction to senior intercounty hurling with his direct opponent bagging 5 points before being withdrawn at ht. Aussie looks to be a long way from the condition one would expect of an intercounty hurlers these days. Colin Dunford had a very poor first half I felt, as did Shane Bennett who has a lot of work to do to get back to his previous level judging by this display. Jack Prendergast made a decent impression for his first start while Tommy Ryan could have had 4 goals on another day but he did ultimately rattle the back of the net. Callum Lyons didn’t look out of place when introduced and Mikey Kearney contributed a nice point. Foran was the target of many of our set plays and Clare were astute in placing Cathal Malone on him who more than matched him for physicality.
A lot learned over the course of the 2 games leaving us in a pretty decent position heading in to the league to try out players further.

carter10

Completely dominated physically all over the field. Our first touch continues to be abysmal and well behind all other top counties. In fact contributes to numerous break down of good positions game after game, hasn't been addressed in years.
2 late goals made it look closer than it was when in fact Clare took their foot off the pedal for the last 10 minutes. Waterford tried to play a short passing game but it broke down time after time and often the wrong option was taken.
Clare on the other hand went direct and their movement, first touch and strength was far superior to ours.
Worryingly Podge Collins ran around unmarked for about 5 mins after coming on neither our players or line communicating who was to pick him up.
Moran and Brick brought some badly needed physicality when they came on. Colin Dunford tried numerous shots all of them falling short and his general play was again really poor as was DJ Foran who for a big man has no presence under the dropping ball and in general play.
Overall, even allowing for the time of year this was a really poor team performance- corrrection- it wasn't a team performance it was 15 individual performances. Clare preformed as a team, working together and seeming to a system they knew and understood. We didn't

mickmackmcgoo

Agree about the problem with the poor first touch and lack of physicality and presence especially in the first half. Ozzie seems to come back every year very out of shape and takes a lot to get fit again. Some players there today not up to the standard but good to try people out. Most annoying thing of all is I reckon we only scored 5 or 6 points from play over 75 minutes

Jjjjjjjbarry

Agree with most of the above. On the positive, I think we have a very good full back line. I knew Prunty was good and showed he can slot in at full back with both physical and hurling ability in abundance. The surprise for me was that I knew nothing about Darragh Lyons who is like a young Noel Connors. If that's the sort of performance he can deliver on a regular basis then I think Shane Fives will do well to hold his place so great to see.

Up front Stephen Bennett carried the team. Jack Prendergast tried hard and Tommy Ryan was his usual threat at times.
The changing of the game was bringing on Moran as up to then we go cleaned out in the middle third. Austin Gleeson's form over the last 12 months is very worrying. He's had several injury problems last year but I feel his place should no longer be guaranteed. Moran really showed him how to lead from the back today.

thesaturdayman

Why wasn’t it on in Walsh park considering our home games be played there? Has the work began? More games we play the better especially as good chunk of the team are based in west and almost never play there with their clubs.

When I checked the website for the fixtures, it’s the 1b fixtures from 2015 are on it. Who is responsible for running the website? Assuming county secretary? It’s a total embarrassment.

upthedeise16

I went to the football in the Gold Cost and on the hurling in Fraher Field for the 2nd half, disappointing that it wasn’t a double header.

Waterford were outclassed in the football against a stronger Clare side, really looked like a Division 2 side versus a poor Division 4 team. The new rules hadn’t a major impact on the game overall but will be interesting to see how they go in the league. Waterford seem to have lost Thomas O’Gorman, Joey Veale, Gavin Crotty and Donie Breatnach, huge losses. Hard to see them competing for promotion.

In the 2nd half of the hurling, Waterford more than matched Clare (as I said I didn’t see the 1st). Kevin Moran was back I the half back line and excelled along with Prunty at full back who was on the dangerous Aaron Shanagher. Darragh Lyons was going well but I hope he hasn’t another injury as he got a nasty slap attempting a block. Callum Lyons did not look out of place but probably needs to bulk up a bit for intercounty championship hurling. I was disappointed in Dunford, they seemed to move Barron to centre forward to accomodate him (they later swapped Barron with Midget) but he was poor, would like to see him perhaps given another chance in the corner as this was where he played during his best year intercounty in 2014. Stephen Bennett’s fitness and form is a big plus, great to see him back to his best, he’s still so young with so much potential.

Deise_2012

This Clare team have been on the road three years now so they’re definitely going to be in a better position starting off in January than us. I wouldn’t be worried about fitness or sharpness yet, it’s still the first week in January. Colin Dunford has been around 5/6 years now so he’d want to showing a bit more if he’s thinking about challenging for a place this year. Good news about Prunty and Darragh Lyons. We still have Darragh Fives, TDB, Conor Gleason & the Ballygunner contingent to come back

KevIRL

Would echo a lot of the comments above. Prunty and Lyons very impressive, Nolan with some excellent saves. Half back line and midfield v poor in first half. Austin clearly had wintered well for himself. Moran made all the difference when introduced. Stephen Bennett outstanding and a nice dilemma there for management about frees when Mahony comes back. The ending was almost farcical. Overall a lot more goal chances than we are accoustomed to seeing Waterford get. Cracking crowd of 3000 for a the first Sunday in January

IanVW

Any sign of any sweepers today??:D

KevIRL

IanVW wrote: »

Any sign of any sweepers today??:D

Not one to be seen

Deise Gael

IanVW wrote: »

Any sign of any sweepers today??:D

No, Just a real good full back at last.:D

Jjjjjjjbarry

Couldn’t believe the crowd there. The boom is back

Cake Man

Is it possible Billy Nolan could dislodge SOK for the number 1 jersey? I said it a while ago here that he can push him hard for it and he's basically first choice now until the Ballygunner lads are back (and I've no doubt he'll also get a few other league games after SOK returns). The lad seems well able for it, showed well underage and going by recent performances has done his reputation no harm although some did mention here he didn't want to play on goal.

DiscoStew

Cake Man wrote: »

Is it possible Billy Nolan could dislodge SOK for the number 1 jersey? I said it a while ago here that he can push him hard for it and he's basically first choice now until the Ballygunner lads are back (and I've no doubt he'll also get a few other league games after SOK returns). The lad seems well able for it, showed well underage and going by recent performances has done his reputation no harm although some did mention here he didn't want to play on goal.

He could well do. He has made some great saves the last 2 games, been very solid under the high ball and distribution has been very good. Offers great support to the defenders when they are under pressure so it wouldn’t amaze me if he kept hold of the jersey now. SOK is a super keeper also but I feel Nolan is a little more solid under the high ball and more natural in taking possession off the defence from playing outfield for his club.

Jjjjjjjbarry

It’s possible but would be a huge call from a new manager. SOK is a former all star with plenty of big game experience and come championship I’d expect to see him in goal.

Mastermcgrath

DiscoStew wrote: »

He could well do. He has made some great saves the last 2 games, been very solid under the high ball and distribution has been very good. Offers great support to the defenders when they are under pressure so it wouldn’t amaze me if he kept hold of the jersey now. SOK is a super keeper also but I feel Nolan is a little more solid under the high ball and more natural in taking possession off the defence from playing outfield for his club.

He’s never had any serious competition before with all due respect to Iggy so interesting to see how this shapes out

It’s refreshing just to log on here and read nothing about ‘bastardised hurling’ or sweepers and instead read about young players who are actually making an impression in their natural positions

Haven’t seen that in about 5 years

deiseach

Some crowd. No doubt it will be used by the Munster Council as an excuse to not allow Waterford host any Munster round-robin games this summer :rolleyes:

Horseboxhead

Would Not be Banging on about new full back yet, he was very good, in a game and conditions that suited him, made one really bad error, in the last 5 min, which would leave me to believe he is not the most confident of chap, but he adds some presence to the edge of the square, plus that flick off the hurl when the full forward rounded him , was pure quality, he is deffo the best there now, as we have no other out and out full back, Aussie is fat end off, went fighting as he was sick of chasing after a very lively centre forward, when he did chase after him, he really should look at kevin Moran, what an example of how lads should look after themselves, his introduction changed the game, Don't think Aussie has been fit for at least 15 months, as even when he was playing last year looked chunky, he needs to find that hunger again, and i don't know if he will, which would be a travesty for the most naturally gifted physical speciman that we have produced in a while.

Stephen Bennett was class, took his goal as only her can, Colin Dunford , does not do anything well enough to really get back on this team, Shane Bennett looked lost , and that he had no Interest, Darragh Lyons is too good for corner back, and he is very good there, but he is a playmaker, so i would have him Playing the role Derek had jake Dillon doing for 3 years, except Darragh has better legs, but his decision making is very impressive, and his confidence,[ hope his hand is Ok]. All in all , it was a useful work out, we looked as if we had been hard training on either sat, or even sunday morning, was happy enough, for a jan, but jesus Aussie get yourself right, it could be the difference, as other wise it would be some waste.

whiteandblue

Reading in the Examiner this morning that there is a leak in Fraher Field that will cost the county board "a significant five-figure sum to repair" but they await clarity from Irish water. More headaches and finance issues.....