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Mastermcgrath

Horseboxhead wrote: »

Would Not be Banging on about new full back yet, he was very good, in a game and conditions that suited him, made one really bad error, in the last 5 min, which would leave me to believe he is not the most confident of chap, but he adds some presence to the edge of the square, plus that flick off the hurl when the full forward rounded him , was pure quality, he is deffo the best there now, as we have no other out and out full back, Aussie is fat end off, went fighting as he was sick of chasing after a very lively centre forward, when he did chase after him, he really should look at kevin Moran, what an example of how lads should look after themselves, his introduction changed the game, Don't think Aussie has been fit for at least 15 months, as even when he was playing last year looked chunky, he needs to find that hunger again, and i don't know if he will, which would be a travesty for the most naturally gifted physical speciman that we have produced in a while.

Stephen Bennett was class, took his goal as only her can, Colin Dunford , does not do anything well enough to really get back on this team, Shane Bennett looked lost , and that he had no Interest, Darragh Lyons is too good for corner back, and he is very good there, but he is a playmaker, so i would have him Playing the role Derek had jake Dillon doing for 3 years, except Darragh has better legs, but his decision making is very impressive, and his confidence,[ hope his hand is Ok]. All in all , it was a useful work out, we looked as if we had been hard training on either sat, or even sunday morning, was happy enough, for a jan, but jesus Aussie get yourself right, it could be the difference, as other wise it would be some waste.

Gleeson has a lot of work to do to get up to the fitness required at this level. Who’s the s&c coach?

If I was Fanning I’d be telling Gleeson goway for 6 weeks and get yourself in shape and come back in the latter stages of the league and we’ll have another look at you. at the moment he’s not remotely fit enough

PTH2009

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

Gleeson has a lot of work to do to get up to the fitness required at this level. Who’s the s&c coach?

If I was Fanning I’d be telling Gleeson goway for 6 weeks and get yourself in shape and come back in the latter stages of the league and we’ll have another look at you. at the moment he’s not remotely fit enough

I knw he was away on holidays a lot over the autumn/winter so he would be a little behind on the S&C side

Hopefully he gets himself sorted. We need the POTY Aussie if we are too be a serious challenger for the AI

Any news where the Offaly game will be ?

hardybuck

It looked to me like Gleeson was rushed back too early from injuries more than once last season. Also, he seemed to suffer from mental fatigue and from everything that came with the expectation after that debut season.

Young players like him can often stumble a bit as they're often flogged as young lads, and their bodies are still growing and adjusting to senior level. He was probably flogging himself at times last year trying to get back to the level he was, and wrecking his own head in the process.

Someone rightly highlighted Kevin Moran as someone in peak condition, however Kevin struggled in his initial years on the panel. Kevin was a tall and light speedy forward who eventually became a physical ball winner. He was also a guy who often used to struggle with the pressure of big games. He was definitely a much better player at 30 than he was at 20, so I think Gleeson could benefit from some patience and time.

Jjjjjjjbarry

hardybuck wrote: »

It looked to me like Gleeson was rushed back too early from injuries more than once last season. Also, he seemed to suffer from mental fatigue and from everything that came with the expectation after that debut season.
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He was definitely rushed back last year. He had several injuries and due to the disaster we had with other players going out, he was rushed back for the Tipp game. I think winning player of the year wasn't good for him. Too much attention and pressure on him. Opposition fans jeering at every mistake and our own manager playing him in different positions and open roles where he hadn't a clue where to position himself. I don't think he's a great reader of the play like Tadhg for example. I think he's better in a fixed position so needs to knuckle down and work hard and get back into the team. Joe Canning and Tony Kelly had dips in form after their rise to stardom also so he's not the first bright spark to suffer. What makes a great player is work ethic and consistency and he can get that into his game yet if he really wants it. The talent is there as we know.

Motivator

Jesus Christ, didn’t take long for the mad comments to appear here again. Tipp’s Eoin Kelly was regularly “out of shape” during the league when he was at his peak. He was then freshened up and was a different animal come the Championship. I would imagine Gleeson has a good relationship with Fanning considering they’re club mates and Fanning will be aware, as everyone else is, that a fully fit Gleeson will be the instrumental in any good things Waterford do this year. It’s January lads, relax a bit.

Gleeson probably should have been given last year off. He was rushed back from niggles and injury all year. I saw him playing for Mt Sion in the club Championship and he couldn’t even run. It isn’t fair on him to carry the can for club and county when he is clearly injured. He’ll be fine this year and I’d back him to be back to his best come the summer.

hurler on de ditch

Its a comical enough thread on here , most of the time , let alone the first week in January, entertaining though

Stopitwillya

Any transfers or rumours of transfers on the local club scene. Usually around this time of year that this takes place.

puzl

Too early to judge anything significant about anyone.

3 weeks to the Offaly game gives everyone plenty of time to *start* to get things in place. We have a very easy 1b this year with promotion off the table we just have to finish in the top 4 for a chance at the 1a teams.

There has never been a riper time for some experimentation in lineup and some boldness in approach. It's perfect for a new manager.

Jjjjjjjbarry

puzl wrote: »

3 weeks to the Offaly game

Has a venue been confirmed yet?

Can't wait for the league. It was a great to see new players doing well at the weekend and I'm looking forward to more of the same throughout the league.

deiseach

Jjjjjjjbarry wrote: »

Has a venue been confirmed yet?

Can't wait for the league. It was a great to see new players doing well at the weekend and I'm looking forward to more of the same throughout the league.

GAA website is still saying venue 'TBC'

I think there is a huge appetite out there for hurling in 2019. 2,000+ at a souped-up challenge match in early January? Incredible. Part of that is down to the championship-for-the-ages that was 2018 and part of it is, in Waterford at least, the blank slate that the new management team has. But I think the main reason is the new format. The prospect of constant hits of high-quality, meaningful games in the early summer is so much more tantalising than a not-quite knockout game followed by several weeks of sitting on your hands, and by 'sitting on your hands' I mean 'players going through interminable training sessions while the fans are sitting on their hands'. It's going to be great (edit: if we get our home games).

PTH2009

deiseach wrote: »

GAA website is still saying venue 'TBC'

I think there is a huge appetite out there for hurling in 2019. 2,000+ at a souped-up challenge match in early January? Incredible. Part of that is down to the championship-for-the-ages that was 2018 and part of it is, in Waterford at least, the blank slate that the new management team has. But I think the main reason is the new format. The prospect of constant hits of high-quality, meaningful games in the early summer is so much more tantalising than a not-quite knockout game followed by several weeks of sitting on your hands, and by 'sitting on your hands' I mean 'players going through interminable training sessions while the fans are sitting on their hands'. It's going to be great (edit: if we get our home games).

Thurles or Port Laoise (venues both free on the 27th Jan) the likeliest to host the Offaly game which losing home advantage too is a farce as it's us the genuine paying fans who are getting punished anyways it is what it is

Hoping too travel too all the league games. Sadly have too miss the Cork game in June due to other things but I'm hoping were through too the All Ireland series by then but lots and lots of hurling before May/June

How's Ballygunners prep for the All Ireland going ?? They are really up for it Ballyhale are very strong

DLS2THECORE

The opening round of the league V Offaly will take place in Thurles on Sunday 27th Jan. Time TBC. Expect an announcement in the next week or so.

DiscoStew

PTH2009 wrote: »

Thurles or Port Laoise (venues both free on the 27th Jan) the likeliest to host the Offaly game which losing home advantage too is a farce as it's us the genuine paying fans who are getting punished anyways it is what it is

Hoping too travel too all the league games. Sadly have too miss the Cork game in June due to other things but I'm hoping were through too the All Ireland series by then but lots and lots of hurling before May/June

How's Ballygunners prep for the All Ireland going ?? They are really up for it Ballyhale are very strong

Ballygunner played WIT Fitz team on Sunday under lights in Fraher. Tough time of the year for getting challenge games. David O’Sullivan and Shane Walsh have joined up with the panel.

KevIRL

deiseach wrote: »

GAA website is still saying venue 'TBC'

I think there is a huge appetite out there for hurling in 2019. 2,000+ at a souped-up challenge match in early January? Incredible. Part of that is down to the championship-for-the-ages that was 2018 and part of it is, in Waterford at least, the blank slate that the new management team has. But I think the main reason is the new format. The prospect of constant hits of high-quality, meaningful games in the early summer is so much more tantalising than a not-quite knockout game followed by several weeks of sitting on your hands, and by 'sitting on your hands' I mean 'players going through interminable training sessions while the fans are sitting on their hands'. It's going to be great (edit: if we get our home games).

Attendance was just over 3,000 on Sunday. Mental really

deiseach

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

Why does Thurles have to get every game? For example Wexford Park is geographically closer to both Ballygunner and Ballyhale, why not share the love for a change?

DLS2THECORE wrote: »

The opening round of the league V Offaly will take place in Thurles on Sunday 27th Jan. Time TBC. Expect an announcement in the next week or so.

:rolleyes:

PTH2009

deiseach wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Best place for the game really

No point to dragging us up too Port Laoise 2 weekends in a row

Never want too see The GG in Limerick again

Deise_2012

DiscoStew wrote: »

Ballygunner played WIT Fitz team on Sunday under lights in Fraher. Tough time of the year for getting challenge games. David O’Sullivan and Shane Walsh have joined up with the panel.

Had they gone travelling in 2018?

DiscoStew

Deise_2012 wrote: »

Had they gone travelling in 2018?

Not certain, possibly for some part of the year but as far as I’m aware they were in the country for much of the campaign and had just opted out. Both are fine hurlers but it’s a bit of a risk bringing in lads who had opted out at this stage, especially after such a fine win in the Munster final.

BazBox

Deise_2012 wrote: »

Had they gone travelling in 2018?

Can't speak for both but I know one of the players had work commitments somewhere in the middle east

tommylad1212

BazBox wrote: »

Can't speak for both but I know one of the players had work commitments somewhere in the middle east

Is dessie huch back also?

DiscoStew

tommylad1212 wrote: »

Is dessie huch back also?

I think so ya. Another strange one considering he probably hasn’t hurled for the club since maybe minor due to soccer commitments.

PTH2009

Ballygunner could be adding to the squad for practice games and stuff

If they were to get to the AI final they would be back defending the titles in early/mid April. Not much of a rest at all

Jjjjjjjbarry

No harm at all bringing back two of last years starters to strengthen the bench at the very least.

thesultan

Who is dessie hutch?

willietherock

thesultan wrote: »

Who is dessie hutch?

You a Kinahan?

PTH2009

Ballygunner panellists (AI Club series), Patrick Curren (hand), Conor Gleeson (Shoulder) and Darragh Fives (niggling injuries) are out for the first few rounds of the league at least

Deisegodeo

Halt time in the harty cup. Dls 1-10 st colmans 0-6. Super stuff so far

Deisegodeo

Dls have won 1-14 to 0-14. Dls went 20 mins without a score in second half and Colmans got in top but crucial late points got the win for dls. Super game

Deisegodeo

Harty cup semi final, dls v Middleton. Heard Saturday 26th but that isn't confirmed yet

Jjjjjjjbarry

PTH2009 wrote: »

Darragh Fives (niggling injuries)

He has no luck has he! Fair play to him on his commitment to getting back. Must be very frustrating.

PTH2009

Deisegodeo wrote: »

Harty cup semi final, dls v Middleton. Heard Saturday 26th but that isn't confirmed yet

they should put it on before the Waterford/Offaly league game in Thurles but obv will not happen

Very good result for DLS Collage and hope they go on too win it now. Winning Harty cups in the past has shown for certain counties

Deisegodeo

PTH2009 wrote: »

they should put it on before the Waterford/Offaly league game in Thurles but obv will not happen

Very good result for DLS Collage and hope they go on too win it now. Winning Harty cups in the past has shown for certain counties

The Fraher field is the likely venue for the harty semi final, down the road for both schools and it's where they played the group game. Middleton put 7-15 on templemore in their quarter final so will be a big challenge for dls. But having beaten flannans and Colmans and drawn with Middleton they shouldn't lack confidence.

PTH2009

Deisegodeo wrote: »

The Fraher field is the likely venue for the harty semi final, down the road for both schools and it's where they played the group game. Middleton put 7-15 on templemore in their quarter final so will be a big challenge for dls. But having beaten flannans and Colmans and drawn with Middleton they shouldn't lack confidence.

I knw Dermot Dooley is on the coaching team

Who else is ?? I knw Derek McGrath is not coaching any of the teams

Thought I heard Corks Mark Ellis is teaching in DLS

tommylad1212

PTH2009 wrote: »

I knw Dermot Dooley is on the coaching team

Who else is ?? I knw Derek McGrath is not coaching any of the teams

Thought I heard Corks Mark Ellis is teaching in DLS

Jonathan Moore abbyside

JesusRef

thesultan wrote: »

Who is dessie hutch?

Wayne Hutchinsons younger brother who was over at Brighton for a few years, He would have most likely been on the 2013 Minor Hurling panel had he not turned to Football

PTH2009

JesusRef wrote: »

Wayne Hutchinsons younger brother who was over at Brighton for a few years, He would have most likely been on the 2013 Minor Hurling panel had he not turned to Football

Plays for Waterford FC too

tommylad1212

PTH2009 wrote: »

Plays for Waterford FC too

Played!!

Cake Man

Good to hear DLS having a good year in the Harty. Waterford colleges have been poor at this grade in the last few years and unsurprisingly our minor county teams have been average enough.
Any stand out names to look out for that'll likely make the county minor (u17?) team later in the year?

deiseach

Did many of the current Limerick team go through Ard Scoil Rís? Although asking that does not imply that the Harty Cup should be viewed as being purely about producing inter-county hurlers. It's nice for a Waterford team to win it for itself.

PTH2009

Like in 2017 Would they not of given us a run out in Croke Park before the Dublin vs Mayo football game on the 23rd Feb instead of playing our game in Parnell Park on the 24th Feb

Me thinks the fixtures were decided before the promotion change and the tighter pitch in PP would suite Dublin more for a chance at promotion than Croke Park. Anyway plenty of hurling too play before that game

Wow thinks are moving up in the world

Sun 21st Jan
AI Club Junior Hurling Semi final
Dunnamaggin (Kilkenny) v Cloughduv (Cork), Fraher Field, Dungarvan, 2pm

willbeuptuesday

I have been following the reaction tot he Cork football plan, which aims to challenge for All Irelands in 5 years. This might be a bit ambitious given Kerry have won the last 5 minor All Irelands but none the less they recognise they are not competing and saw the need to do something about it. Have Waterford every done anything similar in either code??

DeiseDawg

Has the venue for the Waterford Offaly league game been decided? Gas.ie still showing TBC

DeiseDawg

DeiseDawg wrote: »

Has the venue for the Waterford Offaly league game been decided? Gas.ie still showing TBC

Should have read gaa.ie

KevIRL

DeiseDawg wrote: »

Should have read gaa.ie

Was posted on here that it is Thurles for the game. The poster said it will be announced officially over the coming days

DiscoStew

John Dee has returned to Portlaw again from Mount Sion. Probably the most notable transfer.

tommylad1212

DiscoStew wrote: »

John Dee has returned to Portlaw again from Mount Sion. Probably the most notable transfer.

Again ! Is this the third time ?

whiteandblue

DiscoStew wrote: »

John Dee has returned to Portlaw again from Mount Sion. Probably the most notable transfer.

Are they available to look at online?

willietherock

How is Lismore's Iarlaith Daly playing Harty with CBC Cork? Is he living in the city? Anything to Growler?

whiteandblue

willietherock wrote: »

How is Lismore's Iarlaith Daly playing Harty with CBC Cork? Is he living in the city? Anything to Growler?

I don't think he's his son but I could be wrong? He must be some schools player considering he played with Waterford under 21's last year.

CBC or Christians offer hurling scholarships to compete with other schools and with more importantly rugby within their own school and you can't play both hurling and rugby as far as I'm aware. A new principal started a few years back and promoted GAA as well as rugby. They have lads coming in from Midleton, Mallow, Douglas, Inniscarra, Carrigaline and even Lismore just for Harty Cup hurling and have excellent strength and conditioning programmes from 1st year. I know Michael Breen from Tipp started teaching there as well so they're possibly employing teachers to promote the hurling as well.

Deisegodeo

Cake Man wrote: »

Good to hear DLS having a good year in the Harty. Waterford colleges have been poor at this grade in the last few years and unsurprisingly our minor county teams have been average enough.
Any stand out names to look out for that'll likely make the county minor (u17?) team later in the year?

Big difference between Harty cup and county minor now, harty being u19 and minor being u17. Some really good performance from dls players, I know Dermot Dooley said most of the team are 6th years this year, so unlikely many will be playing county minor.

Dermot Dooley is the main man over this team, with Derek McGrath and Kevin Moran teaching in the school as well they probably have some input with regards advice to players and management but it's Dooley who is running it.

Couple of interesting things from the game yesterday, there was no South Kilkenny player in the starting 15 which i found Interesting, particularly given how strong mooncoin were this year at minor level. Usually a few South kk playing with dls but not this year. The other thing was a lad called eoghan Reilly played corner forward for dls, played well too, his club listed as Middleton. I don't know if this was an error making the programme or what but very rare dls would have lads from cork playing