Waterford GAA thread - mod warning post #1 and #51

Punt Road

So our last game in Munster is a Saturday night blockbuster in the sand pit. (8th June) I’ve no doubt it’ll be a must win/ draw scenario for both teams. Will be some occasion.

Mastermcgrath

cul beag wrote: »

Have no doubt the underage is in a mess. Dungarvan are down in division 3 at minor level which tells us that it’s not only at county level we have taken our eyes off the ball. What hasn’t helped is the break up of the Dungarvan colleges combined team for Harty Cup. The pool of players in the west of the county are slipping through the net by not being exposed to top level hurling as they either are attending Dungarvan CBS or St. Augustines and neither can perform on their own. Blackwater then are trying to pull from the hurling areas far west of the county where the population is sparse and are struggling to compete at the top level due to lack of numbers. DLS to be fair have a huge pick but it’s only now they seem to be getting back on track at Harty level which is great to see and to be honest their last successful team has supplied some fantastic players to our current senior panel. Bottom line is if the school structure isn’t in place the whole jigsaw falls apart.

it’s more than just about the schools. We had been contesting Tony Forristal u14 strongly, between 2004 and 2012 getting to a number of finals and winning 2. We haven’t been back at the finals stage since 2012 and it’s no coincidence the quality of player coming through to minor level has dipped.

I beleive it came hand in hand with the co boards dire financial handling and the funding for underage development squads took a hit. The money was thrown at the likes of Davy Fitz instead to try and win an AI with a team that was over the hill at the expense of the good underage structures that had been in place for a good few years.

There is a lack of quality coaches within the county as a result and the ones that are there dont end up giving much their time given the lack of resourcing.

We cannot compete with the likes of Limerick right now with the JP chequebook funding them but we do need to go back to the drawing board and start again otherwise we’ll fall behind once the current crop of senior players move on

PTH2009

Punt Road wrote: »

So our last game in Munster is a Saturday night blockbuster in the sand pit. (8th June) I’ve no doubt it’ll be a must win/ draw scenario for both teams. Will be some occasion.

First championship I'll miss since 2013 but what can ya do

Mulbert

PTH2009 wrote: »

First championship I'll miss since 2013 but what can ya do

Stop letting us know what ur thinking about would be a start.

Jjjjjjjbarry

PTH2009 wrote: »

I imagine it will be the same team/squad as the postponed game ??

Nothing announced yet so must be same team named. Probably will be some changes announced just before the game I’d expect.

Deisegodeo

No public sale of tickets for our 2 home games in the championship. Season ticket holders and clubs getting the tickets, likely to be people complaining but have no grounds for complaint in my book - either join your local club or buy a season ticket to get access to the games.

tommylad1212

Deisegodeo wrote: »

No public sale of tickets for our 2 home games in the championship. Season ticket holders and clubs getting the tickets, likely to be people complaining but have no grounds for complaint in my book - either join your local club or buy a season ticket to get access to the games.

All club members won't get tickets

Deisegodeo

tommylad1212 wrote: »

All club members won't get tickets

True...but the clubs will get some tickets and can distribute them as they see fit, will be interesting to see how many tickets end up with the clubs after season ticket holders have been taken care of.

zetecescort

Any word on how many tickets will the away counties get? Just enough for their season tickets?

PTH2009

Match going ahead after an early morning pitch inspection

Jjjjjjjbarry

Pitch looks much better today. Nice sunny day at the moment. (Now raining)

Ropaire

Jjjjjjjbarry wrote: »

Pitch looks much better today. Nice sunny day at the moment. (Now raining)

Can't see my hand in front of my face with snow here, hopefully it's just up the hills though

PTH2009

****ing crazy weather

Performance not great and really not at the races

Atm its Kilkenny away in the QFs

Happyilylost

PTH2009 wrote:

****ing crazy weather

PTH2009 wrote:

Performance not great and really not at the races

PTH2009 wrote:

Atm its Kilkenny away in the QFs

Breeze is worth six or seven. Waterfords ability to create openings in middle of the pitch the short play should see them back into this game. Still think it will be close.

KevIRL

Waterford with wind in second half but of course it's blowing a lot less than 20 mins ago

PTH2009

Great win and much better 2nd half performance

Clare next Sat with a coin toss too decide home advantage

KevIRL

Much better second half performance obviously. Although the opening ten mins of the match was v strong too and ultimately the winning of it. The conditions made it a real game of two halves and very difficult to score when against the wind. Jamie Barron was excellent throughout, both bennetts also. Hogan did excellently to set up the goal.

Fingers crossed for home advantage next week.

deise08

Don't know how they played in that weather.. everything was thrown at them. Wind, rain, sleet, snow, hail, thunder, lighting and even sun.

Bad anall as it was sitting up there, they had it all into their faces.. they did fantastic. A great win.

Any ideas what time throw in might be next weekend?

PTH2009

KevIRL wrote: »

Much better second half performance obviously. Although the opening ten mins of the match was v strong too and ultimately the winning of it. The conditions made it a real game of two halves and very difficult to score when against the wind. Jamie Barron was excellent throughout, both bennetts also. Hogan did excellently to set up the goal.

Fingers crossed for home advantage next week.

Double header in Ennis next Sat if they win the coin toss according too the Clare forum

Praying for home advantage and Clare would not be disappointed cause they would get a game in Walsh Park. 2pm next Sat Walsh Park would set the day up nicely with the rugby after lol

PTH2009

2020 league

Group A Teams
Limerick
Tipp
Waterford
Galway
Kilkenny/Cork winner
Westmeath

Group B Teams
Wexford
Clare
Kilkenny or Cork loser
Dublin
Carlow
Laois

Stacksofwacks

PTH2009 wrote: »

Double header in Ennis next Sat if they win the coin toss according too the Clare forum

Praying for home advantage and Clare would not be disappointed cause they would get a game in Walsh Park. 2pm next Sat Walsh Park would set the day up nicely with the rugby after lol

ah the rugby, where everybody drinks 2 or 3 slow pints, sing a few songs and go home to a cup of hot chocolate. A bit too bland for my liking but whatever gets you excited

Bonniedog

PTH2009 wrote: »

2020 league

Group A Teams
Limerick
Tipp
Waterford
Galway
Kilkenny/Cork winner
Westmeath

Group B Teams
Wexford
Clare
Kilkenny or Cork loser
Dublin
Carlow
Laois

That set up looks very odd.

Bottom two in 1A replaced by top two in 1B would surely have made for fairer competition?

Westmeath really thrown in at deep end, whereas before winners of 2A had one or two games they might have targeted for a result.

cul beag

Isn’t it great to see the 2 Bennett brothers benefiting from an attack minded manager. Play to our strengths for a change.

KevIRL

cul beag wrote: »

Isn’t it great to see the 2 Bennett brothers benefiting from an attack minded manager. Play to our strengths for a change.

It's exciting to them of them on harder summer ground along with Tommy Ryan

KevIRL

Bad weather and all today, but a disappointing attendance of 3300. Wait for all the wailing about tickets come May for the 11 thousand capacity venue.

KevIRL

Another point. Loved the cheeky little sideline from Shane Bennett in the second half, looked like he had left it for Barron to take but actually took it and Jamie popped it over the bar unopposed

upthedeise16

KevIRL wrote: »

Another point. Loved the cheeky little sideline from Shane Bennett in the second half, looked like he had left it for Barron to take but actually took it and Jamie popped it over the bar unopposed

Pity they’ll never get away with it again now!😂

Deiselurker

Great comeback today. The conditions were horrible at times for the fans so must have been tougher for players with sleet and strong winds and a heavy pitch. Galway only managed 2 points in 2nd half against the wind but we left it late to get the win. Davy Glennon Galway number 15 should have been red carded for an incident near the end when he struck a Waterford player during a tangle off the ball but ref must not have seen it as he only gave a yellow card to both players after checking with his linesman and umpire.

tommylad1212

PTH2009 wrote: »

Double header in Ennis next Sat if they win the coin toss according too the Clare forum

Praying for home advantage and Clare would not be disappointed cause they would get a game in Walsh Park. 2pm next Sat Walsh Park would set the day up nicely with the rugby after lol

Waterford will bring them to dungarvan no way will they give Clare a game in Walsh park before the championship

Deise_2012

What players stood out today? How did the full back line cope minus Prunty and Fives?

KevIRL

Deise_2012 wrote: »

What players stood out today? How did the full back line cope minus Prunty and Fives?

Barron motm for me. Moran v good too especially second half. Both bennetts impressed again. Thought full back line was ropey enough especially in first half. First goal was a poor goal to concede.

Mastermcgrath

KevIRL wrote: »

Bad weather and all today, but a disappointing attendance of 3300. Wait for all the wailing about tickets come May for the 11 thousand capacity venue.

In fairness the game was a bit of already a dead rubber, weather was ****e, many people got stung last week and there was another day out guaranteed next week. If ever there was going to be a small crowd...

Relhcstirt

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

PTH2009 wrote: »

Double header in Ennis next Sat if they win the coin toss according too the Clare forum

Praying for home advantage and Clare would not be disappointed cause they would get a game in Walsh Park. 2pm next Sat Walsh Park would set the day up nicely with the rugby after lol

ah the rugby, where everybody drinks 2 or 3 slow pints, sing a few songs and go home to a cup of hot chocolate. A bit too bland for my liking but whatever gets you excited

Blandness. Must be the Gaelic football you are refering two.

Relhcstirt

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

PTH2009 wrote: »

Double header in Ennis next Sat if they win the coin toss according too the Clare forum

Praying for home advantage and Clare would not be disappointed cause they would get a game in Walsh Park. 2pm next Sat Walsh Park would set the day up nicely with the rugby after lol

ah the rugby, where everybody drinks 2 or 3 slow pints, sing a few songs and go home to a cup of hot chocolate. A bit too bland for my liking but whatever gets you excited

Blandness. Must be the Gaelic football you are refering two.

DiscoStew

tommylad1212 wrote: »

Waterford will bring them to dungarvan no way will they give Clare a game in Walsh park before the championship

I’d agree 100%, why give them a trial run at it before Munster Champ. I’d nearly rather play them in Ennis to avoid that.

PTH2009

We should know anyway tomorrow Ennis or Walsh Park next Sat

Footballers have a nice trip too London next weekend, looking too make it 3 wins this campaign

Stacksofwacks

Relhcstirt wrote: »

Blandness. Must be the Gaelic football you are refering two.

Nah I just dont get the vibe from the rugby, the genuine cut and thrust that you get at GAA games. people just seem to be there for a laugh and a sing song and then back to discussing their property portfolios. But each to their own

Mastermcgrath

DiscoStew wrote: »

I’d agree 100%, why give them a trial run at it before Munster Champ. I’d nearly rather play them in Ennis to avoid that.

A trial run? All of them Clare lads would have played in Walsh Pk before at some stage. I wouldn’t get too carried away about the place either. I’d take home advantage, try beat them there and get some upward Momentum ahead of championship. We’ve beaten no one yet this year bar a depleted Galway in a dead rubber game.

Mulbert

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

Nah I just dont get the vibe from the rugby, the genuine cut and thrust that you get at GAA games. people just seem to be there for a laugh and a sing song and then back to discussing their property portfolios. But each to their own

Wow, delusional snobbery and stupidity in a single paragraph!

Jjjjjjjbarry

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

DiscoStew wrote: »

I’d agree 100%, why give them a trial run at it before Munster Champ. I’d nearly rather play them in Ennis to avoid that.

A trial run? All of them Clare lads would have played in Walsh Pk before at some stage.

Yes and both Sixmilebridge and Ballyea came to Walsh Park in the last two years also.

Stacksofwacks

Mulbert wrote: »

Wow, delusional snobbery and stupidity in a single paragraph!

I just said I wasnt that into rugby, how is that snobbery?

Mulbert

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

I just said I wasnt that into rugby, how is that snobbery?

Is that what u meant to say. I get u now.

Jjjjjjjbarry

When’s the coin toss?

Road-Hog

Jjjjjjjbarry wrote: »

When’s the coin toss?

Next week.......!!

On another topic did anyone notice the Shane Bennett/Jamie Barron ‘side line’ technique during the game yesterday. The highlights program last night gave particular attention to this......Bennett gave the ball the slightest of touches and ran off with head down Barron came in and picked it up and had a free shot at target which he duly put over the bar....Will this become a regular thing now or will it remain a ‘one off’.....as all coaches/managers will from now on have their players too well aware of it....?

deise08

cul beag wrote: »

Isn’t it great to see the 2 Bennett brothers benefiting from an attack minded manager. Play to our strengths for a change.

Used to break my heart watching young Shane on his own, week in, week out running himself into the ground.

Ropaire

Road-Hog wrote: »

Next week.......!!

On another topic did anyone notice the Shane Bennett/Jamie Barron ‘side line’ technique during the game yesterday. The highlights program last night gave particular attention to this......Bennett gave the ball the slightest of touches and ran off with head down Barron came in and picked it up and had a free shot at target which he duly put over the bar....Will this become a regular thing now or will it remain a ‘one off’.....as all coaches/managers will from now on have their players too well aware of it....?

I saw that from the stand and was wondering how they got away with it, cute bit of play though. They'll probably change the rules on it before they get a chance to do it again.

hardybuck

Ropaire wrote: »

I saw that from the stand and was wondering how they got away with it, cute bit of play though. They'll probably change the rules on it before they get a chance to do it again.

Don't think you can change a rule unless it's voted in congress?

spideyman92

hardybuck wrote: »

Don't think you can change a rule unless it's voted in congress?

Did they not change the rule on penalties fairly swiftly after SoK charged out on the Horgan one years ago?

puzl

The penalty rule was changed under the player safety mandate, which supercedes normal procedures. At the time it was a temporary rule change and had to be ratified at the next Congress. There's nothing they can do about the sideline rule until next Congress, but I wonder why would they even want to?

spideyman92

puzl wrote: »

The penalty rule was changed under the player safety mandate, which supercedes normal procedures. At the time it was a temporary rule change and had to be ratified at the next Congress. There's nothing they can do about the sideline rule until next Congress, but I wonder why would they even want to?

Ah okay fair enough then.