Most annoying habits of passengers?

Fagashlil

xtradel wrote: »

Hello, Fatty here....only really fly with Ryanair & Aer Lingus. I always need an extension belt and with Ryanair they have them there as you board which I think is great because it saves the embarrassment of having to talk across your fellow passenger and ask for one. With Aer Lingus they present it to you as if you've just asked for the secret key to Narnia.

What would happen if a load of Fatty's arrived at the plane.....would they have enough to go around? Is there a regulation regarding how many belts they need to have available?

Also if you ever meet me on a plane I'll be the person squashed up against the window because I'm fully aware of my size and will do whatever I can do to not draw attention to myself. If you are stuck beside an obese person and they invade your space well that just means they're a prick and if they were normal size they'd probably still be pricks! Some people have this strange sense of entitlement wherever they go.

There's 18 of the extension belts on board, however as they are primarily infant lap belts, infants requirement is a priority over a person requiring it as an extension.

Fred Swanson

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Pat Dunne

What the big deal about seat belt extensions. You can simply buy your own!https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=seat+belt+extension+airplane&clk_rvr_id=1568701734244&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqYvl8NPb2wIVqbDtCh3AQw9uEAMYAyAAEgJZpPD_BwE&geo_id=32251&MT_ID=10&cmpgn=310787334&crlp=191631795747_3287&keyword=seat+belt+extension+airplane&rlsatarget=kwd-2987551941&abcId=558836&treatment_id=7&poi=&adpos=1o3&device=t&crdt=0&ul_ref=https%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F710-35648-5910-0%252F2%253Fmpre%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.co.uk%25252Fulk%25252Fsch%25252F%25253F_nkw%25253Dseat%25252520belt%25252520extension%25252520airplane%2526keyword%253Dseat%252520belt%252520extension%252520airplane%2526crlp%253D191631795747_3287%2526MT_ID%253D10%2526geo_id%253D32251%2526rlsatarget%253Dkwd-2987551941%2526adpos%253D1o3%2526device%253Dt%2526loc%253D1007850%2526poi%253D%2526abcId%253D558836%2526treatment_id%253D7%2526cmpgn%253D310787334%2526gclid%253DEAIaIQobChMIqYvl8NPb2wIVqbDtCh3AQw9uEAMYAyAAEgJZpPD_BwE%2526srcrot%253D710-35648-5910-0%2526rvr_id%253D1568701734244%2526rvr_ts%253D0fae94641640a16e99a72aacfff8778d&ul_noapp=true

L1011

Pat Dunne wrote: »

What the big deal about seat belt extensions. You can buy them https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=seat+belt+extension+airplane&clk_rvr_id=1568701734244&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqYvl8NPb2wIVqbDtCh3AQw9uEAMYAyAAEgJZpPD_BwE&geo_id=32251&MT_ID=10&cmpgn=310787334&crlp=191631795747_3287&keyword=seat+belt+extension+airplane&rlsatarget=kwd-2987551941&abcId=558836&treatment_id=7&poi=&adpos=1o3&device=t&crdt=0&ul_ref=https%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F710-35648-5910-0%252F2%253Fmpre%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.co.uk%25252Fulk%25252Fsch%25252F%25253F_nkw%25253Dseat%25252520belt%25252520extension%25252520airplane%2526keyword%253Dseat%252520belt%252520extension%252520airplane%2526crlp%253D191631795747_3287%2526MT_ID%253D10%2526geo_id%253D32251%2526rlsatarget%253Dkwd-2987551941%2526adpos%253D1o3%2526device%253Dt%2526loc%253D1007850%2526poi%253D%2526abcId%253D558836%2526treatment_id%253D7%2526cmpgn%253D310787334%2526gclid%253DEAIaIQobChMIqYvl8NPb2wIVqbDtCh3AQw9uEAMYAyAAEgJZpPD_BwE%2526srcrot%253D710-35648-5910-0%2526rvr_id%253D1568701734244%2526rvr_ts%253D0fae94641640a16e99a72aacfff8778d&ul_noapp=true

Airlines will generally not let you use your own outside the US; there's also some obscure latch types in use (the Amsafe one is definitely the most common though).

That is assuming the FA notices it of course!

PlaneSpeeking

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Aer Lingus' are a bit looser than the older Ryanair planes - on one occasion I even had to tighten mine!!!!

LoonyLovegood

Yeah, another fat person here, Aer Lingus have been the worst for belt extenders. Most notably coming back on a work trip from New York, cabin crew came half way down the aisle "Who asked for a belt extender?" called out. Mortified wasn't the word.

Ryanair are surprisingly great for it, always nice and discreet, as are the US airlines. Honestly that one time turned me off using Aer Lingus again.

But on topic, recliners for flights under an hour. Did a Boston - Toronto flight a few weeks ago, person in front of me reclined as soon as we were off the ground, and didn't go back up till we were about to land. Cue frantic me trying to fill in my customs card on the back of the chair because I couldn't get the tray table unlatched enough.

PlaneSpeeking

LoonyLovegood wrote: »

Yeah, another fat person here, Aer Lingus have been the worst for belt extenders. Most notably coming back on a work trip from New York, cabin crew came half way down the aisle "Who asked for a belt extender?" called out. Mortified wasn't the word.

Ryanair are surprisingly great for it, always nice and discreet, as are the US airlines. Honestly that one time turned me off using Aer Lingus again.

But on topic, recliners for flights under an hour. Did a Boston - Toronto flight a few weeks ago, person in front of me reclined as soon as we were off the ground, and didn't go back up till we were about to land. Cue frantic me trying to fill in my customs card on the back of the chair because I couldn't get the tray table unlatched enough.

As a fellow chunky monkey (more silverback gorilla than cute lil chimp!!!) - does it annoy you when you read "spilling out of your seat on to the next person".

We don't melt for God's sake!!!!

Gwen Cooper

I have the opposite experience when it comes to asking for an extension belt.

I always ask for it when boarding the plane (I'm one of the first to board anyway and the crew has time before the wave of people comes).

With Aer Lingus they always hand me the belt at the door, as soon as I ask for it. Never had any issues. Always very discreet.

With Ryanair, they tell me that they bring it to me later, usually after the safety demonstration. It's bright orange and most of the flight attendant's don't seem to care about being discreet at all. It happened a few times that they forgot and I had to call them over after they sat down. They're getting better though.

Was flying MAN - DUB yesterday and saw two things that drove me mad:

1) people dragging their cabin luggage as far to the side as as far behind them as possible, blocking the whole walkway, so you can't get in front of them. I was stuck behind two ladies who walked very slowly with their luggage behind them, chatting joyfully. Then they stopped without a warning and I nearly tripped over that bloody suitcase of hers. There are always people like that, but they seemed that they all had some sort of a convention in Manchester yesterday.

2) Some of the gates in MAN have no seats, you basically have to queue between rails from the moment you arrive to the gate. We were standing there for half an hour, then these two women come up and sit down in KFC just across from the gate. When they started the priority boarding, these two just got up and walked in. So while all of the passengers were waiting for half an hour, these two were sitting in KFC for two minutes and then they just waltzed on board. So annoying.

PlaneSpeeking

Gwen Cooper wrote: »

I have the opposite experience when it comes to asking for an extension belt.

I always ask for it when boarding the plane (I'm one of the first to board anyway and the crew has time before the wave of people comes).

With Aer Lingus they always hand me the belt at the door, as soon as I ask for it. Never had any issues. Always very discreet.

With Ryanair, they tell me that they bring it to me later, usually after the safety demonstration. It's bright orange and most of the flight attendant's don't seem to care about being discreet at all. It happened a few times that they forgot and I had to call them over after they sat down. They're getting better though.

Was flying MAN - DUB yesterday and saw two things that drove me mad:

1) people dragging their cabin luggage as far to the side as as far behind them as possible, blocking the whole walkway, so you can't get in front of them. I was stuck behind two ladies who walked very slowly with their luggage behind them, chatting joyfully. Then they stopped without a warning and I nearly tripped over that bloody suitcase of hers. There are always people like that, but they seemed that they all had some sort of a convention in Manchester yesterday.

2) Some of the gates in MAN have no seats, you basically have to queue between rails from the moment you arrive to the gate. We were standing there for half an hour, then these two women come up and sit down in KFC just across from the gate. When they started the priority boarding, these two just got up and walked in. So while all of the passengers were waiting for half an hour, these two were sitting in KFC for two minutes and then they just waltzed on board. So annoying.

Dublin is usually Gate 51 at MCR, not a seat - I usually remain in the bar!

Happy travels fellow wobblers!!!!

Gwen Cooper

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Dublin is usually Gate 51 at MCR, not a seat - I usually remain in the bar!

Happy travels fellow wobblers!!!!

Yep, 51. It was my first time flying from MAN with Ryanair, last time I went with Aer Lingus from Cork.

I had no idea that 51 will be that close to the bars and the flight was delayed, so I was getting impatient. Once the gate number showed up, I grabbed my little pink backpack and I ran to the gate, only to find that I've been standing 10 steps away from it for the last three hours

Cyrus

Gwen Cooper wrote: »

2) Some of the gates in MAN have no seats, you basically have to queue between rails from the moment you arrive to the gate. We were standing there for half an hour, then these two women come up and sit down in KFC just across from the gate. When they started the priority boarding, these two just got up and walked in. So while all of the passengers were waiting for half an hour, these two were sitting in KFC for two minutes and then they just waltzed on board. So annoying.

i dont get the issue, someone had priority boarding and used it?

Gwen Cooper

Cyrus wrote: »

i dont get the issue, someone had priority boarding and used it?

I don't even think they had priority boarding - I went in right behind them and I heard them laughing and saying something like "we saved time and a fiver hahahahaha" :rolleyes: I hate people.

Bob24

Cyrus wrote: »

i dont get the issue, someone had priority boarding and used it?

Yes no issue with that passenger assuming they had priority boarding.

I can understand how other passengers would be annoyed with the poor design of the facilities though.

Bob24

Gwen Cooper wrote: »

I don't even think they had priority boarding - I went in right behind them and I heard them laughing and saying something like "we saved time and a fiver hahahahaha" :rolleyes: I hate people.

If they didn’t have priority boarding, they are crap but the boarding staff is as well. Should have told them to back-off and join the back of the queue.

PlaneSpeeking

Cyrus wrote: »

i dont get the issue, someone had priority boarding and used it?

There are two queues, and even if you have PB you have to go to the queue - not just cross from the KFC and go to the desk.

Cyrus

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

There are two queues, and even if you have PB you have to go to the queue - not just cross from the KFC and go to the desk.

i understand that :pac:

L1011

About two thirds of the flight usually has "priority" boarding these days so there is always a substantial queue; its not like the Aerclub line at an EI checkin which is often empty after the first few have boarded

trellheim

Many airports outside DUB do not particularly enforce priority boarding

Bob24

trellheim wrote: »

Many airports outside DUB do not particularly enforce priority boarding

Yes especially if boarding is not managed by Ryanair staff.

I assume Ryanair are distributing their policies to partners who manage ground tasks on their behalf but when they talk to those partners they are more concerned about cutting cost rather than making sure policies are enforced.

Fred Swanson

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PlaneSpeeking

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Was like that in an airport in the south of France. Wagon made a massive deal about having priority boarding card. Staff were sound, saying "there is a bus to go to the plane".

She's having none of it. Eventually they let her through first. Then us.

She's sat at the front of the bus haranguing the driver!!

So when we all get to the plane, staff say "only the front doors are operational at this time - anyone in Rows 21-30, please board now" - she screams "I'm in 2C!!! I have priority boarding!", so staff try to explain safety etc.

"I know my local MP and I am going to write to him on my return!!!"

She was still banging on as we landed!!!

ILikeBoats

Always laugh when there's a bus and everyone ends up on it regardless.

GreeBo

VG31 wrote: »

Dublin Airport is good for not having any strange or unnecessary extra rules at airport security. I can think of lots of times I've brought items through Dublin Airport security with no problem but had issues with the other airport on the inbound journey.

I had a nice man force me to take my aftershave out of a 1 litre sandwich bag and put it into the provided bag to prove it would fit.
I'm the end I put one bag into the other but the whole thing was totally unnecessary and just delayed everyone needlessly.

Bob24

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Was like that in an airport in the south of France. Wagon made a massive deal about having priority boarding card. Staff were sound, saying "there is a bus to go to the plane".

She's having none of it. Eventually they let her through first. Then us.

She's sat at the front of the bus haranguing the driver!!

So when we all get to the plane, staff say "only the front doors are operational at this time - anyone in Rows 21-30, please board now" - she screams "I'm in 2C!!! I have priority boarding!", so staff try to explain safety etc.

"I know my local MP and I am going to write to him on my return!!!"

She was still banging on as we landed!!!

Funny story and she doesn’t come across as the smartest person.

*But* the airline is the original problem: they sold her a service which they can’t deliver. They should be penalised when it happens (and not just have to offer a refund after spending 20 minutes on hold on the phone and having to argue your case).

Bandana boy

People who forget all the rules of going through security every time

I was at T1 security hell hole a couple of weeks back and the person I was travelling with ended up in different scanner queues .Clearly its now a race .I was flying along when a early 20s back packer (about 5 a head of me )arrives at security talking on her phone .
She finishes the conversation leaving fully empty conveyor belt in front of her (I am also annoyed that person behind her didn't just pass her by and start loading her stuff onto conveyor belt).

She then starts from scratch removing phones , tablets , belts, shoes etc
But then most bizarrely puts her backpack on her back and attempts to walk through the body scanner !!!
Then has a conversation with security about why the scanners are different and surely she can leave it on her back they do the same job !!
All with approx 50 billion people behind her seething in the sweltering heat .
She then has the gall to give me a dirty look when I loudly exclaim "for the love of bloody god get a move on "

Anyhoo lost the race

PlaneSpeeking

Bob24 wrote: »

Funny story and she doesn’t come across as the smartest person.

*But* the airline is the original problem: they sold her a service which they can’t deliver. They should be penalised when it happens (and not just have to offer a refund after spending 20 minutes on hold on the phone and having to argue your case).

Actually an excellent point as the Stobart Air planes for AL are always bussed out.

PlaneSpeeking

Bandana boy wrote: »

People who forget all the rules of going through security every time

I was at T1 security hell hole a couple of weeks back and the person I was travelling with ended up in different scanner queues .Clearly its now a race .I was flying along when a early 20s back packer (about 5 a head of me )arrives at security talking on her phone .
She finishes the conversation leaving fully empty conveyor belt in front of her (I am also annoyed that person behind her didn't just pass her by and start loading her stuff onto conveyor belt).

She then starts from scratch removing phones , tablets , belts, shoes etc
But then most bizarrely puts her backpack on her back and attempts to walk through the body scanner !!!
Then has a conversation with security about why the scanners are different and surely she can leave it on her back they do the same job !!
All with approx 50 billion people behind her seething in the sweltering heat .
She then has the gall to give me a dirty look when I loudly exclaim "for the love of bloody god get a move on "

Anyhoo lost the race

I fly every other week for the football and should I ever get sponsorship for the number of "For f***s SAKE!!!" I come out with whilst in the security queue, I could end world hunger.

plodder

This has to be the worst example:

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/it-was-a-total-overreaction-irish-passenger-removed-from-ryanair-flight-to-ibiza-shares-their-story-37023121.html

Conor claims the passenger tried to drink his own alcohol from duty-free, which he was told he couldn't do, but remained on the flight.

Conor claims that an hour into their journey the man got sick on him, damaging his laptop.

"He came sort of stumbling up the aisle behind me and just vomited all over my head, down my front and into my open laptop, which is no longer working now."

The passenger then "passed out across three whole seats" and remained there for the rest of the flight according to Conor, who has yet to hear back from Ryanair.

Have to say Ryanair's call for alcohol sales before 10am to be banned is them not taking responsibility for their own problems. Why did they let him board? It seems all they care about (between both those cases) is that you don't consume your own alcohol on board. The sight of people drinking in the airport at 6am is enough to turn my stomach, but why should it be banned? I wouldn't do it, but I've never seen anyone having a few at that time subsequently cause trouble.

doolox

Being impatient in the security queue is not good for people with disabilities who find these procedures daunting and challenging.

I do have to seek and get assistance from DAA customer relations to be escorted through security each time I fly because of impatient people crowding me out and trying to push me through the procedure overly quickly.

Because of reports of theft of personal, high value items in the process of going through security, I am naturally anxious not to be caught out especially not to lose cash or documents. I do not like to have people too close behind me in the queue in case stuff gets stolen, The DAA staff are very helpful and get me through successfully each time.

Impatient individuals have caused me and my family much anxiety and tension over the years until we discovered this excellent assistance service from DAA for disabled and anxious flyers. Other aspects of flying do not bother me but dealing with authority figures, security people etc and knowing the right place to be and the right thing to do intimidates me unduly.

Other European airports are not as bad for this barracking behaviour at security queues. The people are more polite and do not crowd other people out and the lines are more heavily monitored by armed guards, probably this helps keep the crowders and pushers more in line. I only find this behaviour at Dublin, esp T1 but not much elsewhere in Europe. I'd imagine the US must be hell.

PlaneSpeeking

plodder wrote: »

This has to be the worst example:

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/it-was-a-total-overreaction-irish-passenger-removed-from-ryanair-flight-to-ibiza-shares-their-story-37023121.html



Have to say Ryanair's call for alcohol sales before 10am to be banned is them not taking responsibility for their own problems. Why did they let him board? It seems all they care about (between both those cases) is that you don't consume your own alcohol on board. The sight of people drinking in the airport at 6am is enough to turn my stomach, but why should it be banned? I wouldn't do it, but I've never seen anyone having a few at that time subsequently cause trouble.

I often get the 7.05am flight from Dublin and have a couple of beers at the airport.

In 11 years of living in Ireland and flying back for the match I have never once been a nuisance and have flown sozzled a good few times.

Rule of thumb should be that if you are clearly p***ed and shouting the odds at the airport, you are going to do the same midair.

He shouldn't have been allowed to fly.