Shooting at Bray Boxing Club, 1 killed, 2 seriously injured...

Donald Trump

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Terrible shame about the innocent man killed in this fiasco.

What kind of fcking country is this turning in to. The levels of outright degeneracy.

Tiny little rock producing multiple murders per week.

Listen, we're here to talk about cyclists and some fella getting fined for speeding.


Git with the program sucka

Donald Trump

Captain Obvious wrote: »

Or you could not have overtaken them.

Appropriate username is appropriate

murpho999

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Terrible shame about the innocent man killed in this fiasco.

What kind of fcking country is this turning in to. The levels of outright degeneracy.

Tiny little rock producing multiple murders per week.

It's not that bad. In 2017 Ireland ranked 64th for murders.

Table showing murders per 100,000 population

Gadgetman496

Karen Brown thinks the whole affair is nuts...

Donald Trump

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

Karen Brown thinks the whole affair is nuts...

Is she Dr. Brown's sister? Him of the overtaking cyclists fame

2forjoy

The more it sinks in and the less people care. The dead man was innocent. So I care.
Hopefully Pete will co-operate fully with the Gardai.

Gadgetman496

Donald Trump wrote: »

Is she Dr. Brown's sister? Him of the overtaking cyclists fame

She's Pete's bit of fluff.

North inner city hoodlum

Donald Trump wrote: »

Garda boxing club??????
Any of the University Boxing Clubs???????

The biggest criminals in Ireland are the guards, university boxing clubs I haven't a clue

Donald Trump wrote: »

I take it that you've never stepped inside a club, bar maybe the odd inner city Dublin one and noticed a few wannabe hard-chaws

I've stepped in more than a few and everyone of them were full of gangsters, I'm not from Dublin either, you yellow fecking American

deco nate wrote: »

He's a "guy" on the know don't ya know.... Knows all, knows **** all. Claims to know all about gangs all over the country.

Amazing Intel, pity he doesn't talk to the cops with his "Intel"

I know feck all about this anyway for your information or any Intel about this so get your facts straight and I also don't claim to know everything Irish crime related but have a keen interest in Irish crime, also I wouldn't help the gardai with directions never mind information

Edit

corner of hells wrote: »

Maybe he's a , ya know , a journalist .

I've already stated I'm not a journalist !

ellejay

Dr Brown wrote: »

I didn't put anyone in danger I actually had to speed up overtake a group of cyclists.


I was doing 67km in a 60km zone.


The Gardas are just revenue collectors.

You were easy prey.

It'd be too much like hard work for them to catch an actual drug dealer, drug user, thief, mugger or any of the other delights.

Sam Quentin

Lainey Shrilling Cranberry wrote: »

Lads ye do know this thread is about the shooting at the boxing club in Bray yeah ?

Yes... But cyclist are bloody everywhere and must be included in every thread.
Ok hi

brendanwalsh

By all accounts and reading between the lines it is clear that Taylor has been doing more than just training a few lads to throw a punch. I'd be willing to wager the back offices of the gym is where the real heavy work done. Taylor is lucky to escape with his life. Let's hope he co-operate fully with AGS and that the innocent victim gets his justice.

The Talking Bread

Dr Brown wrote: »

Now that abortion is legal society is basically saying thats its OK to go around killing people for whatever reason.

moronic

mcmoustache

Dr Brown wrote: »

Now that abortion is legal society is basically saying thats its OK to go around killing people for whatever reason.

I've seen some amount of nonsense posted from your account in the recent past and strangely enough, this post is completely unremarkable in that context.

Esel

Par for the course from the Dr.

The Ignore button is calling.

corner of hells

Dr Brown wrote: »

Now that abortion is legal society is basically saying thats its OK to go around killing people for whatever reason.

But , no ..... Ah forget it

Thesomersarms

Is it any clearer what the motive was for the shooting? Imo it’s very much looking like it was feud related for a couple of reasons, taylor had said previously he was teaching the mtk boxers for free which has to be called into question. The day of the shooting was the first day of the trial for murder of gareth hutch, that murder left extremely bitter feelings on the hutch side. It would in their mind make a big statement to take out a high profile target with ties to kinahan and make it much harder for mtk linked boxers to get coaching in Ireland.

I’ve seen the likes of nicola tallant stating that it wasn’t feud related however Tallant has been off the mark so many times on different cases that I would take that with a pinch of salt, to me she regurgitates stuff she sees on Twitter and then changes as the story changes, I’m amazed she gets airtime on mainstream tv and radio shows.

Finally a particular Twitter account has been consistently posting info about the Kinahans for a a while now and has been curiously close to what is going on, in march that account singled out Taylor and his links to mtk boxers and how that wasn’t going down well with some people and how he should watch his movements. Also the account insinuates that he was in receipt of income from Kinahan gang for the coaching of the MTK boxers, that could be off the mark but the account definitely seems to have some sort of inside track. If it was a Hutch hit I imagine Kinahan retaliation will be swift.

Finally the saddest thing about this shooting is that yet again another completely innocent man has been murdered but the difference this time is that there’s been little to no outcry, this is not a good sign as that could have been you, me or anyone and should not become the norm that if an innocent catches a bullet it’s no big deal.

thebull85

Thesomersarms wrote: »

Also the account insinuates that he was in receipt of income from Kinahan gang for the coaching of the MTK boxers, that could be off the mark but the account definitely seems to have some sort of inside track.

Of course he is being paid by MTK, hes been cornerman for a number of their fighters in recent months. Hes not doing that work for free, you dont need to have "inside track" to figure that one out.

RacoonQueen

Are ye gonna link us to this twitter account?

Pintman Paddy Losty

Thesomersarms wrote: »

Finally the saddest thing about this shooting is that yet again another completely innocent man has been murdered but the difference this time is that there’s been little to no outcry, this is not a good sign as that could have been you, me or anyone and should not become the norm that if an innocent catches a bullet it’s no big deal.

This is actually very true.

He seemed like a really good man. A father and grandfather keeping fit before going to work and now he's dead with no outcry at all. We've become numb to it.

Muahahaha

Thesomersarms wrote: »

Finally the saddest thing about this shooting is that yet again another completely innocent man has been murdered but the difference this time is that there’s been little to no outcry, this is not a good sign as that could have been you, me or anyone and should not become the norm that if an innocent catches a bullet it’s no big deal.

I couldnt agree more with this. I remember there being public outrage when Baiba Saulte was shot and the same when that innocent apprentice plumber who witnessed a hit was executed because he had witnessed it. In the case of Bobby Messet I havent heard one public figure condemning the gunning down of an innocent bystander. It seems to me to be a lie down with dogs youll get fleas scenario which is completely unfair on him and his family, he was just in a gym training before going to work ffs, it could have been anyone.

The Talking Bread

He sounds like a bit of an imbecile (the twitter account holder) to be honest! It is like a cheap parody a/c! The guy probably has a shrine to Nicola Tallant and Paul Williams in his bog! And collects those Sunday world crime booklets that they give away every now and then!

Thesomersarms

The Talking Bread wrote: »

He sounds like a bit of an imbecile (the twitter account holder) to be honest! It is like a cheap parody a/c! The guy probably has a shrine to Nicola Tallant and Paul Williams in his bog! And collects those Sunday world crime booklets that they give away every now and then!

His use of the English language could improve no doubt and it can be very hard to make out what he is actually getting at but I’ve followed that account for some time and can say he has been far more on the ball than Tallant and Williams put together. My guess is he is a Hutch or Hutch connected and has a major beef with Cancer Kinahan as he calls him.

The Talking Bread

Thesomersarms wrote: »

His use of the English language could improve no doubt and it can be very hard to make out what he is actually getting at but I’ve followed that account for some time and can say he has been far more on the ball than Tallant and Williams put together. My guess is he is a Hutch or Hutch connected and has a major beef with Cancer Kinahan as he calls him.

As I said, imbecile. I don't find this feud in anyway fascinating tbh, media attention almost glamourises it at times which heightens the tension between them.

Happy4all

I presume the van used was stolen?

North inner city hoodlum

The Talking Bread wrote: »

He sounds like a bit of an imbecile (the twitter account holder) to be honest! It is like a cheap parody a/c! The guy probably has a shrine to Nicola Tallant and Paul Williams in his bog! And collects those Sunday world crime booklets that they give away every now and then!

Go threw his account, he has/does name names before they're released and is on the button, he would be offered a job as a Dublin crime reporter if there was no legal repercussions to his information. It's a information war, and he has the upper hand.

Thesomersarms wrote: »

His use of the English language could improve no doubt and it can be very hard to make out what he is actually getting at but I’ve followed that account for some time and can say he has been far more on the ball than Tallant and Williams put together. My guess is he is a Hutch or Hutch connected and has a major beef with Cancer Kinahan as he calls him.

The spelling is to never be linked to the account even if he throws away that account (I hope not I'd have no info )

Happy4all wrote: »

I presume the van used was stolen?

Pete's reg off the mustang is visible, but not the caddy yet the guards are looking for information on it, probably cloned plate off a legitimate caddy.

Why is the gym named Taylor Made Boxing Gym (Facebook) but company register is Bray Boxing Club Company Limited By Guarantee, did the council not pump serious wads into the place?

Gadgetman496

North inner city hoodlum wrote: »

Why is the gym named Taylor Made Boxing Gym (Facebook) but company register is Bray Boxing Club Company Limited By Guarantee, did the council not pump serious wads into the place?

Bray Town Council secured €190,000 in funding from the Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport and invested €100,000 from its own resources.

Pete took a lease on it as far as I know.

nacho libre

This whistleblower account, would he/she not be worried that by giving specific information someone could identify who they are. Also that his ip address could be traced? Perhaps he is using a vpn, though. Although, do they guarantee anonymity?

horseofstone

Hope the two guys shot make a full recovery and deepest sympathies to the victim's family.the gardai will get to the bottom of this,I have no doubt.

North inner city hoodlum

nacho libre wrote: »

This whistleblower account, would he/she not be worried that by giving specific information someone could identify who they are. Also that his ip address could be traced? Perhaps he is using a vpn, though. Although, do they guarantee anonymity?

No, its a burner lyca mobile sim(crop more Mr whistleblower) an IP address can't give you a location and if he's a hutch relative or friend he has feck all to lose.

Interesting article two paragraphs that jumped out to me.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/he-had-bullet-holes-in-his-leg-people-spilled-out-of-boxing-club-after-shooting-847159.html

"The club received State funding totalling €300,000 after that event and a new building was erected.

While owned by Bray District Council, the club is synonymous with Mr Taylor, who set it up in 1995. Olympian Adam Nolan, a local garda in Bray, also trains there."

Are redacted(business name removed) sausage company still sponsoring the club along with sports brands/all over the gym?

Edit
yes the whistleblower is using a VPN, little lock icon on his screen.

DFZ 9341
2010 Volkswagen Caddy Maxi C20 LWB TDI 104
BODY TYPE Panel VAN
FUEL TYPE Diesel
COLOUR Silver
TRANSMISSION Manual

UNTAXED SINCE 31 AUGUST 2017

MOT DUE 4 April 2018

Strazdas

murpho999 wrote: »

It's not that bad. In 2017 Ireland ranked 64th for murders.

Table showing murders per 100,000 population

That's pretty reassuring. Countries like Norway and Sweden which are high on the quality of life index are in and around the same level as us.

refusetolose

North inner city hoodlum wrote: »

Edit
yes the whistleblower is using a VPN, little lock icon on his screen.

the lock icon only means their tweets are not public

Suckit

refusetolose wrote: »

the lock icon only means their tweets are not public

I am guessing he meant the key icon, like on the top of the screen in this photo

tomofson

It would make sense if the Hutches are starting to retaliate now, that a lot of kinahan gunmen are in custody.

I had a feeling they where just playing it sweet while the other crowd all got themselves arrested, then they where going to try something.

But a part of me thinks this is more of a personal thing, there is two main Hutch gunmen and they wouldn't miss their target like that, if it was either of those boys pete wouldn't have just been shot in the arm.

I understand they may have missed their number 1 in the regency, but that was only because he wasn't in the building, nothing to do with bad aim.

AndrewJRenko

Dr Brown wrote: »

The Gardas did me for speeding at the weekend thats where the resources are, going after decent people while the scumbags roam free.

Haven't you heard of the great trick to allow decent people to avoid speeding fines?

http://southendnewsnetwork.net/news/driver-reveals-one-simple-trick-to-avoid-speeding-fines-and-penalty-points/

RacoonQueen

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Haven't you heard of the great trick to allow decent people to avoid speeding fines?

http://southendnewsnetwork.net/news/driver-reveals-one-simple-trick-to-avoid-speeding-fines-and-penalty-points/

Bet she has never come across a group of professional cyclists going along at a nice steady 50kph that she needed to drive 17kph faster than in order to overtake.

WHIP IT!

Why do cyclists insist on ruining absolutely everything? :rolleyes:

WHIP IT!

North inner city hoodlum wrote: »

The whistleblower.


A great account, put the kettle on his account is as morish as Afghan heroin

What a phrase! :D

Suckit

tomofson wrote: »

It would make sense if the Hutches are starting to retaliate now, that a lot of kinahan gunmen are in custody.

I had a feeling they where just playing it sweet while the other crowd all got themselves arrested, then they where going to try something.

But a part of me thinks this is more of a personal thing, there is two main Hutch gunmen and they wouldn't miss their target like that, if it was either of those boys pete wouldn't have just been shot in the arm.

I understand they may have missed their number 1 in the regency, but that was only because he wasn't in the building, nothing to do with bad aim.

I very much doubt it has anything to do with the Hutch-Kinahan feud. It is more likely to do with Pete Taylor and his goings on.

weisses

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Bet she has never come across a group of professional cyclists going along at a nice steady 50kph that she needed to drive 17kph faster than in order to overtake.

That's what you have a windscreen sprayer for

AndrewJRenko

weisses wrote: »

That's what you have a windscreen sprayer for

Just make sure you smile nicely for the cyclist's camera when you do it - you'll want to look your best when the footage goes viral. Or when it goes to the Gardai.

The Bishop Basher

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Just make sure you smile nicely for the cyclist's camera when you do it - you'll want to look your best when the footage goes viral. Or when it goes to the Gardai.

I'm not condoning the behaviour but would you honestly call the Guards because someone squirted water at you ?

I'd love to hear that conversation..

Muahahaha

Isnt it really bizarre that the shooter never even attempted to burn out the VW Caddy. His DNA will be all over it. As someone already said it has a whiff of amateurism off it.

AndrewJRenko

Rennaws wrote: »

I'm not condoning the behaviour but would you honestly call the Guards because someone squirted water at you ?

I'd love to hear that conversation..

Yeah, I did it some years back. The Garda took it fairly seriously, given the potential dangers that arise from distracting any road user, even if just for a second or two. She called round to the registered owner - turns out the young lad was driving mammies car at the time. He didn't drive mammies car again for a good while.

WHIP IT!

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Yeah, I did it some years back. The Garda took it fairly seriously, given the potential dangers that arise from distracting any road user, even if just for a second or two. She called round to the registered owner - turns out the young lad was driving mammies car at the time. He didn't drive mammies car again for a good while.

^^^^^
This definitely happened... almost definitely... well, probably... maybe, anyhoo... yeah, it never happened...

dbas

Muahahaha wrote: »

Isnt it really bizarre that the shooter never even attempted to burn out the VW Caddy. His DNA will be all over it. As someone already said it has a whiff of amateurism off it.

Who knows, it might not even be the same van. That journey would only take a half hour at that hour of the morning. Took well over an hour and he drove all over the place.

nelly17

dbas wrote: »

Who knows, it might not even be the same van. That journey would only take a half hour at that hour of the morning. Took well over an hour and he drove all over the place.

Really? How do we know that? I seen the Guards appealing for Dash Cam footage all right.

Honestly Bray can be a pig to get out of I'd say an hour would be about right with traffic building along the route at that hour

dbas

nelly17 wrote: »

Really? How do we know that? I seen the Guards appealing for Dash Cam footage all right.

Honestly Bray can be a pig to get out of I'd say an hour would be about right with traffic building along the route at that hour

Thought I read that the van had been spotted in a few places that indicate it didnt go directly to ringsend.
I'm speculating about the van as why wouldnt they burn it out? Also, by coincidence the van used in the jason molyneaux murder was found in ringsend and not burned out.

Pompous

Rennaws wrote: »

I'm not condoning the behaviour but would you honestly call the Guards because someone squirted water at you ?

I'd love to hear that conversation..

It's not water. It's some sort of windscreen washer fluid. I've tasted it

Apparently, spraying people with any liquid is assault.

AndrewJRenko

WHIP IT! wrote: »

^^^^^
This definitely happened... almost definitely... well, probably... maybe, anyhoo... yeah, it never happened...

Maybe you're right. Maybe I just happened to make up the story a few days ago and post it on an unrelated thread, just on the off-chance that the topic would come up on this thread. That sounds like a more likely coincidental scenario, doesn't it?

Rennaws wrote: »

would you honestly call the Guards because someone squirted water at you ?

So if I were to spin up on a motorbike beside your open window and use a water-pistol to fire soapy water into your eyes and mouth while you're driving, would you honestly NOT call the Guards?

Casey78

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Maybe you're right. Maybe I just happened to make up the story a few days ago and post it on an unrelated thread, just on the off-chance that the topic would come up on this thread. That sounds like a more likely coincidental scenario, doesn't it?


So if I were to spin up on a motorbike beside your open window and use a water-pistol to fire soapy water into your eyes and mouth while you're driving, would you honestly NOT call the Guards?

You cyclists are hilarious. Ye think everything revolves around you and your pathetic mode of transport.
How could you even prove a motorist did it on purpose anyway. Any Garda with a bit of cop on would laugh at you if you reported it.
I'm laughing here even thinking about it.