Shooting at Bray Boxing Club, 1 killed, 2 seriously injured...

glenfieldman

The Talking Bread wrote: »

He sounds like a bit of an imbecile (the twitter account holder) to be honest! It is like a cheap parody a/c! The guy probably has a shrine to Nicola Tallant and Paul Williams in his bog! And collects those Sunday world crime booklets that they give away every now and then!

SHE, she is an imbecile.
She had a fascination to Graham ODywer a few years back

Thesomersarms

Suckit wrote: »

I very much doubt it has anything to do with the Hutch-Kinahan feud. It is more likely to do with Pete Taylor and his goings on.

I guess that’s my point, his goings on has him linked to the Kinahans and if he is in fact in receipt of income for coaching mtk linked boxers He’s indirectly aligned himself with them and made himself a target. It does sound really dodgy stating to a paper that he can coach who he wants and was coaching the mtk boxers for free, then driving around in a flash sports car, doesn’t add up.

Again I reckon it’s indirectly linked to the feud as he is a high profile target for enemies of the Kinahans. Also if it’s not feud related what other gang would want to antagonise The Kinahans and shoot someone who is coaching their boxers and is possibly on their pay roll? Given their record I don’t see another gang crossing them.

AndrewJRenko

Casey78 wrote: »

You cyclists are hilarious. Ye think everything revolves around you and your pathetic mode of transport.
How could you even prove a motorist did it on purpose anyway. Any Garda with a bit of cop on would laugh at you if you reported it.
I'm laughing here even thinking about it.

Keep laughing, my friend. If it happened today, I'd have front and rear camera footage. There's a fair bet that the direction of the stream and the position and speed of the car would make the motorist's intent fairly clear.

When it happened the last time, I didn't have any camera running, but the Garda seemed to take it fairly seriously. I noted that the windscreen nozzle was pointing to the left, not at the windscreen, so that gave a fairly clear indication of intent. That and the fact that the car slowed when it came along side, and four young lads roared laughing at the time.

I guess the Gardai get lots of reports of crimes where the intent is not clear at the outset, but when the full story is pulled together, intent is fairly clear.

Does it make you feel big and clever to call cycling 'a pathetic mode of transport'? More people cycle in Dublin for their commute than come by Luas and DART combined. Is it still pathetic?
http://irishcycle.com/2017/07/30/more-residents-commute-by-bicycle-than-by-luas-and-dart-in-dublin-city-and-suburbs/

dbas

glenfieldman wrote: »

SHE, she is an imbecile.
She had a fascination to Graham ODywer a few years back

Thats another friutcake- she's not connected to that account. She just talks to herself on about ten accounts all day. Suppose we all need our hobbies

Ash.J.Williams

tomofson wrote: »

It would make sense if the Hutches are starting to retaliate now, that a lot of kinahan gunmen are in custody.

I had a feeling they where just playing it sweet while the other crowd all got themselves arrested, then they where going to try something.

But a part of me thinks this is more of a personal thing, there is two main Hutch gunmen and they wouldn't miss their target like that, if it was either of those boys pete wouldn't have just been shot in the arm.

I understand they may have missed their number 1 in the regency, but that was only because he wasn't in the building, nothing to do with bad aim.

Playing it sweet? Most of them are dead

Gadgetman496

Can a MOD please change the title of this thread to "A motorist squirted water at me on my bike"

Riesen_Meal

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

Can a MOD please change the title of this thread to "A motorist squirted water at me on my bike"

Imagine that was all you had to worry about in life?

Hammer89

dbas wrote: »

Thought I read that the van had been spotted in a few places that indicate it didnt go directly to ringsend.
I'm speculating about the van as why wouldnt they burn it out? Also, by coincidence the van used in the jason molyneaux murder was found in ringsend and not burned out.

It might be strategic, dumping it in Ringsend. It's a five-minute walk from the city centre but there's also not a lot of CCTV around, so you can dump it without being caught on camera.

Hammer89

Also, the reduced outpouring regarding the innocent bystander isn't because we've become numb to innocent people being murdered; it's because Pete Taylor, a famous man, was the target. That's the story.

If the intended target was just some random knacker in a boxing club then there would be a lot more coverage and subsequent outrage over the poor man who was killed.

AndrewJRenko

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

Can a MOD please change the title of this thread to "A motorist squirted water at me on my bike"

We already have one of those, so you might want to merge instead of renaming.

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057878507/1

The Bishop Basher

Hammer89 wrote: »

If the intended target was just some random knacker in a boxing club then there would be a lot more coverage and subsequent outrage over the poor man who was killed.

A really decent bloke by all accounts..

Casey78

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Keep laughing, my friend. If it happened today, I'd have front and rear camera footage. There's a fair bet that the direction of the stream and the position and speed of the car would make the motorist's intent fairly clear.

When it happened the last time, I didn't have any camera running, but the Garda seemed to take it fairly seriously. I noted that the windscreen nozzle was pointing to the left, not at the windscreen, so that gave a fairly clear indication of intent. That and the fact that the car slowed when it came along side, and four young lads roared laughing at the time.

I guess the Gardai get lots of reports of crimes where the intent is not clear at the outset, but when the full story is pulled together, intent is fairly clear.

Does it make you feel big and clever to call cycling 'a pathetic mode of transport'? More people cycle in Dublin for their commute than come by Luas and DART combined. Is it still pathetic?
http://irishcycle.com/2017/07/30/more-residents-commute-by-bicycle-than-by-luas-and-dart-in-dublin-city-and-suburbs/

Guards probably thought you were a crackpot and didn't want to upset you by telling you they have far more important things to be worried about that than some self righteous arsehole on a bike getting sprayed by a little window washer.
Get a life ffs.
Make sure btw to delete all the red lights you break, one way streets you cycle down the wrong way, pavements you cycle on before you hand in your "video evidence"

Casey78

Fieldog wrote: »

Imagine that was all you had to worry about in life?

Cyclists are always complaining about something.

The Bishop Basher

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

So if I were to spin up on a motorbike beside your open window and use a water-pistol to fire soapy water into your eyes and mouth while you're driving, would you honestly NOT call the Guards?

No. To be honest it would need to be something pretty serious for me to call the guards.

I volunteered as a first responder for 3 years and I saw the amount of time wasting that went on with the ambulance service. People calling ambulances with stomach ache and headache..

I wouldn't call any of them unless it was pretty much life or death tbh.

They need to be available to deal with stuff like the topic of this thread..

AndrewJRenko

Casey78 wrote: »

Guards probably thought you were a crackpot and didn't want to upset you by telling you they have far more important things to be worried about that than some self righteous arsehole on a bike getting sprayed by a little window washer.

Not wanting to upset people generally isn't too high up on the Garda priorities when it comes to road traffic matters. Taking a formal statement and generating the formal paperwork that leads to a file being sent for assessment is a fairly significant step - but it's interesting to see how you apparently know more about the situation than me, the person who lived through it.

Just in case you're not fully understanding the situation, let me spell it out for you. Distracting and putting any road user out of control, and blocking their vision, even for a couple of seconds is potentially a very dangerous act. It could lead to a fall or a collision, and could result in a fairly serious injury.

And for what? Just to let a little bully who hides behind the wheel of mammies car show off to his mates at the expense of a vulnerable road user? Nah, sorry mate - but it's not going to happen.

Casey78 wrote: »

Make sure btw to delete all the red lights you break, one way streets you cycle down the wrong way, pavements you cycle on before you hand in your "video evidence"

Can I take it that you never break a speed limit at all? Because it would be just a tad hypocritical of you to be whinging about cyclists and red lights if you're one of the 80%+ of motorists that breaks speed limits, wouldn't it?

Why don't you move on to 'road' tax and cycling on the pavement now, and see if you can get a line on the bs bingo card?

Rennaws wrote: »

No. To be honest it would need to be something pretty serious for me to call the guards.

I volunteered as a first responder for 3 years and I saw the amount of time wasting that went on with the ambulance service. People calling ambulances with stomach ache and headache..

I wouldn't call any of them unless it was pretty much life or death tbh.

They need to be available to deal with stuff like the topic of this thread..

The Gardai take a different view. They set up the TrafficWatch call centre to make it easy for people to report offending motorists:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/garda-traffic-watch-scheme-goes-nationwide-1.970962

If you can catch a gob****e like this case in the early days, there is a good chance that you'll be saving someone from a serious injury or worse down the line.

The Bishop Basher

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

The Gardai take a different view. They set up the TrafficWatch call centre to make it easy for people to report offending motorists:

Each to their own. I suppose I'm just old school.

I don't rat on people for not following the rules of the road.

If the guards catch them fair enough but i mind my own..

keith_sixteen

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

This is actually very true.

He seemed like a really good man. A father and grandfather keeping fit before going to work and now he's dead with no outcry at all. We've become numb to it.

No outcry indeed. A few private whatsapp messages between friends in another country however...

AndrewJRenko

Rennaws wrote: »

Each to their own. I suppose I'm just old school.

I don't rat on people for not following the rules of the road.

If the guards catch them fair enough but i mind my own..

Does 'old school' means using language that most of us grew out of when we left school?

We have 3 or 4 people being killed on the road each week here, and many more maimed. The idea that endangering people on the road is someone else's problem is fairly primitive.

Hurrache

Cyclist bashing stemming from the fact a keen cyclist is murdered, someone actually saying they wouldn't hold that against him. Boards just keeps finding that new low.

Casey78

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Not wanting to upset people generally isn't too high up on the Garda priorities when it comes to road traffic matters. Taking a formal statement and generating the formal paperwork that leads to a file being sent for assessment is a fairly significant step - but it's interesting to see how you apparently know more about the situation than me, the person who lived through it.

Just in case you're not fully understanding the situation, let me spell it out for you. Distracting and putting any road user out of control, and blocking their vision, even for a couple of seconds is potentially a very dangerous act. It could lead to a fall or a collision, and could result in a fairly serious injury.

And for what? Just to let a little bully who hides behind the wheel of mammies car show off to his mates at the expense of a vulnerable road user? Nah, sorry mate - but it's not going to happen.


Can I take it that you never break a speed limit at all? Because it would be just a tad hypocritical of you to be whinging about cyclists and red lights if you're one of the 80%+ of motorists that breaks speed limits, wouldn't it?

Why don't you move on to 'road' tax and cycling on the pavement now, and see if you can get a line on the bs bingo card?





The Gardai take a different view. They set up the TrafficWatch call centre to make it easy for people to report offending motorists:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/garda-traffic-watch-scheme-goes-nationwide-1.970962

If you can catch a gob****e like this case in the early days, there is a good chance that you'll be saving someone from a serious injury or worse down the line.

I'd say you're great craic on a night out.

Laois_Man

Katy Taylor statement issued through the Irish Times

“Following the horrific gun attack that took place in Bray Boxing Club early last Tuesday morning in which one man Bobby Messett was tragically killed and two others Ian Britton and my father Pete Taylor were seriously injured, there has been considerable public interest in all aspects of the event. However, for personal reasons as well as ensuring clarity in future stories that will inevitably be written, I would like to make the following statement -

“First and foremost, I would like to wish my most heartfelt condolences to the family of Bobby Messett for their tragic loss. I can’t imagine the despair or the sense of injustice they must be dealing with. I’m praying they know God’s comfort in the hard days ahead.

“For my Dad, I’m very thankful and relieved he made it through this horrific attack and is recovering well. I understand there is still a lot of uncertainty about the nature of the incident but I’m hoping the gardaill get to the bottom of it very soon.

“As many of you know, I have been somewhat estranged from my Dad for a number of years now. I’ve had little contact with him in the last three years and no contact or association whatsoever with Bray Boxing Club since 2015.

“I have been appalled by the misuse of my name and image during the reporting of this incident in the media coverage, it has been reckless and irresponsible, and a deliberate attempt to inappropriately leverage my name to sell a story. I urge the media to leave me, my Mum and other family members out of this story.

“Finally, to Bobby’s family: You didn’t deserve this heartache, I’m so sorry for your loss.”

Katie Taylor

June 7th 2018

refusetolose

meanwhile katie has made a statement https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2018/0607/968995-katie-taylor-statement/

Brae100

Katie Taylor has issued a statement in which she understandably distances herself from the whole thing. Interestingly, she jtalks about "future stories that will inevitably be written". Sounds like there will be stories about Pete about to hit the papers.

https://www.rte.ie/amp/968995/?__twitter_impression=true

The Bishop Basher

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Does 'old school' means using language that most of us grew out of when we left school?

We have 3 or 4 people being killed on the road each week here, and many more maimed. The idea that endangering people on the road is someone else's problem is fairly primitive.

I have no issue with you calling the guards.

I choose not to.

keith_sixteen

Casey78 wrote: »

I'd say you're great craic on a night out.

I'd say if that's the main barometer of success in your life, you might want to grow up a bit.

The Bishop Basher

Very well written statement with Katie showing her usual class.

Feel very sorry for her being dragged into this.

Casey78

keith_sixteen wrote: »

I'd say if that's the main barometer of success in your life, you might want to grow up a bit.

You also sound like great craic. I'm guessing you're also a cyclist.

dbas

Rennaws wrote: »

Very well written statement with Katie showing her usual class.

Feel very sorry for her being dragged into this.

Her statement firmly and politely stops her being dragged into anything really. She is a true lady.
Very noticeable that she went to the Irish times with that story. Probably the only paper that showed her the respect she deserves throughout all this. The star rag would have loved that story

Brae100

PR people: "Throw in a bit about god and prayers there to make it look like she wrote it."

The Crowman

glenfieldman wrote: »

SHE, she is an imbecile.
She had a fascination to Graham ODywer a few years back

Crazy Russian lady?

dbas

The Crowman wrote: »

Crazy Russian lady?

The very one.
Nutjob

Calhoun

Quite a shame for this to happen, but I think Pete was playing with fire when he started training the MTK guys.

Intesting to see where it will go from here, I think his brand is pretty much gone, not sure if he can keep the gym going with all this going on.

Muahahaha

Did anyone else read Katie Taylors statement in her voice

nocoverart

Muahahaha wrote: »

Did anyone else read Katie Taylors statement in her voice

Yeah, it took me Two hours. Ah no, I love Katie.

keith_sixteen

Casey78 wrote: »

I'm guessing you're also a cyclist.

Classy

Tippex

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Not wanting to upset people generally isn't too high up on the Garda priorities when it comes to road traffic matters. Taking a formal statement and generating the formal paperwork that leads to a file being sent for assessment is a fairly significant step - but it's interesting to see how you apparently know more about the situation than me, the person who lived through it.

Just in case you're not fully understanding the situation, let me spell it out for you. Distracting and putting any road user out of control, and blocking their vision, even for a couple of seconds is potentially a very dangerous act. It could lead to a fall or a collision, and could result in a fairly serious injury.

And for what? Just to let a little bully who hides behind the wheel of mammies car show off to his mates at the expense of a vulnerable road user? Nah, sorry mate - but it's not going to happen.


Can I take it that you never break a speed limit at all? Because it would be just a tad hypocritical of you to be whinging about cyclists and red lights if you're one of the 80%+ of motorists that breaks speed limits, wouldn't it?

Why don't you move on to 'road' tax and cycling on the pavement now, and see if you can get a line on the bs bingo card?





The Gardai take a different view. They set up the TrafficWatch call centre to make it easy for people to report offending motorists:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/garda-traffic-watch-scheme-goes-nationwide-1.970962

If you can catch a gob****e like this case in the early days, there is a good chance that you'll be saving someone from a serious injury or worse down the line.

Why do people insist on going off on random rants on things that are totally unrelated to the thread?

Calhoun

Tippex wrote: »

Why do people insist on going off on random rants on things that are totally unrelated to the thread?

Yah i am also confused how a thread discussing something as serious as a murder has now become a cycling thread.

brooke 2

Rennaws wrote: »

Very well written statement with Katie showing her usual class.

Feel very sorry for her being dragged into this.

It must have been infuriating for her to see her face plastered all over the front of the papers in connection with the shooting when she has had nothing to do with Pete Taylor for the past few years. I felt very sorry for her when I saw those pictures. That man has caused enough pain to Katie - and other members of his family - in the lead up to the Rio Olympics. Now that Katie has dusted herself off and picked herself up to have become so successful in the professional field, she should be left completely out of this incident involving her father. I'm delighted she has spoken out about the manner in which the media have so disgracefully used her image to leverage sales of their rags.

yerwanthere123

That statement from Katie was quite... cold and clinical I thought?

GiftofGab

Calhoun wrote: »

Quite a shame for this to happen, but I think Pete was playing with fire when he started training the MTK guys.

Intesting to see where it will go from here, I think his brand is pretty much gone, not sure if he can keep the gym going with all this going on.

He was doing more than training these guys up. Got caught up in it all and was on their payroll. Brand new mustang to show for it too.

Ash.J.Williams

GiftofGab wrote: »

He was doing more than training these guys up. Got caught up in it all and was on their payroll. Brand new mustang to show for it too.

So they say alright

brooke 2

Brae100 wrote: »

PR people: "Throw in a bit about god and prayers there to make it look like she wrote it."

I'd say her PR people were tearing their hair out every time a picture of Katie appeared with her father on the front page during the past few days! You couldn't blame them. It turns out that Pete Taylor seems to be quite the scumbag. The Gardaí have told him, apparently, that his life is still in danger.

brooke 2

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

That statement from Katie was quite... cold and clinical I thought?

And to the point.

Beechwoodspark

brooke 2 wrote: »

And to the point.

The sense I got from it is sympathising with the family of the murder victim and clearly she wants nothing more to do with her father

Calhoun

GiftofGab wrote: »

He was doing more than training these guys up. Got caught up in it all and was on their payroll. Brand new mustang to show for it too.

I wasn't aware of that side of it but i do remember him years ago in Bray having a bit of a reputation.

If it is true i don't see how the country council can leave a public amenity in the hands of someone who is caught up in this lifestyle.

weldoninhio

Brae100 wrote: »

PR people: "Throw in a bit about god and prayers there to make it look like she wrote it."

Was about to ask if she is contractually obliged to mention god every time she speaks? Has she got a sponsorship deal with him??

Richmond Ultra

brooke 2 wrote: »

I'd say her PR people were tearing their hair out every time a picture of Katie appeared with her father on the front page during the past few days! You couldn't blame them. It turns out that Pete Taylor seems to be quite the scumbag. The Gardaí have told him, apparently, that his life is still in danger.

They told him his life was in danger when he was in hospital after being shot. It is kind of obvious you are in danger if a bullet has hit you.

Brae100

I heard today that Pete came from England to work in the arcades in Bray.

Hammer89

Bit off topic but why hasn't Katie been speaking to him for three years?

weldoninhio

Muahahaha wrote: »

Did anyone else read Katie Taylors statement in her drone

FYP