Shooting at Bray Boxing Club, 1 killed, 2 seriously injured...

Thesomersarms

Calhoun wrote: »

I wasn't aware of that side of it but i do remember him years ago in Bray having a bit of a reputation.

If it is true i don't see how the country council can leave a public amenity in the hands of someone who is caught up in this lifestyle.

Yes it’s going to have repercussions for him with his business but also once again for boxers aligned to mtk, they were already been given a wide berth this will put even more negative attention on them.

Looking at some of the boxers aligned to mtk there’s a serious bunch of shady characters, even look at paddy barnes, no problem aligning himself to kinahan and yesterday calling a female journalist a tramp for asking frampton to comment on the shooting, no respect for barnes, comes across as a total street thug. This MTK brand is bad news, Pete should have known better going near it but I’m sure they pay a lot better than coaching regular punters.

Jeff2

It's a long shot but tomorrow I will put all posting about cycling on ignore list and see if I can follow this thread with out them.

Ash.J.Williams

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

The sense I got from it is sympathising with the family of the murder victim and clearly she wants nothing more to do with her father

yeah i missed that when i first read it but she did drop him there at the end. She dropped bray boxing too!

katie looks amazing as a fighter these days, good move leaving the country.

Ash.J.Williams

Thesomersarms wrote: »

Yes it’s going to have repercussions for him with his business but also once again for boxers aligned to mtk, they were already been given a wide berth this will put even more negative attention on them.

Looking at some of the boxers aligned to mtk there’s a serious bunch of shady characters, even look at paddy barnes, no problem aligning himself to kinahan and yesterday calling a female journalist a tramp for asking frampton to comment on the shooting, no respect for barnes, comes across as a total street thug. This MTK brand is bad news, Pete should have known better going near it but I’m sure they pay a lot better than coaching regular punters.

i assume everyone has read the Ewan McKenna article from the indo? it's damning stuff. Definitely a money trail.

clfy39tzve8njq

Ash.J.Williams wrote:

i assume everyone has read the Ewan McKenna article from the indo? it's damning stuff. Definitely a money trail.

Any link please

prinzeugen

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Keep laughing, my friend. If it happened today, I'd have front and rear camera footage. There's a fair bet that the direction of the stream and the position and speed of the car would make the motorist's intent fairly clear.

When it happened the last time, I didn't have any camera running, but the Garda seemed to take it fairly seriously. I noted that the windscreen nozzle was pointing to the left, not at the windscreen, so that gave a fairly clear indication of intent. That and the fact that the car slowed when it came along side, and four young lads roared laughing at the time.

I guess the Gardai get lots of reports of crimes where the intent is not clear at the outset, but when the full story is pulled together, intent is fairly clear.

Does it make you feel big and clever to call cycling 'a pathetic mode of transport'? More people cycle in Dublin for their commute than come by Luas and DART combined. Is it still pathetic?
http://irishcycle.com/2017/07/30/more-residents-commute-by-bicycle-than-by-luas-and-dart-in-dublin-city-and-suburbs/

Every thread is turned into a cycling issue with you. Were you the dirty **** that had a big snort and spat a load of phlegm over the back of my head in while he cycled past me in Terenure last week? Its assault. Garda have his DNA now.

You forgot to mention numbers using the bus which is higher. But you hate motor vehicles of all forms so it is understandable that you missed that statistic.

Anyway what has this to do with a shooting in Bray??

Ash.J.Williams

Lainey Shrilling Cranberry wrote: »

Any link please

https://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/boxing/ewan-mackenna-boxing-to-daniel-kinahan-is-what-football-was-to-pablo-escobar-and-its-choking-the-sport-in-ireland-36670728.html

deco nate

brooke 2 wrote: »

I'd say her PR people were tearing their hair out every time a picture of Katie appeared with her father on the front page during the past few days! You couldn't blame them. It turns out that Pete Taylor seems to be quite the scumbag. The Gardaí have told him, apparently, that his life is still in danger.

Yea, because they have to after he has been shot. Have you not been paying attention to the news when they're talking about it?

runrun2

Katie must be pretty disgusted as well the way RTE and the media in general hardly ever filmed/covered her fights until she started making headway in the Olympics yet she already had European and world titles.

Yet I've never seen such media coverage for her in the past few days even though shes one of the most successful boxer and Olympians to come out of Ireland.

Total joke.

deco nate

Hammer89 wrote: »

Bit off topic but why hasn't Katie been speaking to him for three years?

Really? He was shagging her friend and had a kid with her/left his wife....

Thesomersarms

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/boxing/ewan-mackenna-boxing-to-daniel-kinahan-is-what-football-was-to-pablo-escobar-and-its-choking-the-sport-in-ireland-36670728.html

Thats a very interesting article hadn’t read that before, what jumped out was the reference to the regency being a very strategic attack in terms of the damage it would do to Kinahans boxing brand, something he had worked very hard to build. Then their was the rebrand to mtk to dissociate from the legacy of the regency.

That’s what I saw in this particular shooting, as in strategy, an attack to weaken his new boxing brand by targeting a very high profile individual thus causing a media ****storm that could have repercussions internationally for mtk as they are already blacklisted in Ireland, the regency took care of that. If they can’t get at him directly they damage his boxing empire.

refusetolose

Thesomersarms wrote: »

Thats a very interesting article hadn’t read that before, what jumped out was the reference to the regency being a very strategic attack in terms of the damage it would do to Kinahans boxing brand, something he had worked very hard to build. Then their was the rebrand to mtk to dissociate from the legacy of the regency.

That’s what I saw in this particular shooting, as in strategy, an attack to weaken his new boxing brand by targeting a very high profile individual thus causing a media ****storm that could have repercussions internationally for mtk as they are already blacklisted in Ireland, the regency took care of that. If they can’t get at him directly they damage his boxing empire.

they rebranded cos they were threatened to be sued by mgm media in america

Calhoun

Thesomersarms wrote: »

Yes it’s going to have repercussions for him with his business but also once again for boxers aligned to mtk, they were already been given a wide berth this will put even more negative attention on them.

Looking at some of the boxers aligned to mtk there’s a serious bunch of shady characters, even look at paddy barnes, no problem aligning himself to kinahan and yesterday calling a female journalist a tramp for asking frampton to comment on the shooting, no respect for barnes, comes across as a total street thug. This MTK brand is bad news, Pete should have known better going near it but I’m sure they pay a lot better than coaching regular punters.

Thats quite a shame from Pete's perspective, i had a soft spot for the rags to riches type rise he had. I remember when he used to be on the doors down the seafront in Bray and lived in old court.

As for MTK, they should be avoided like the plague.

NIMAN

So it appears that Pete was the target of the attacker.

juno10353

keith_sixteen wrote:

No outcry indeed. A few private whatsapp messages between friends in another country however...

Unsure what you mean. Got derailed by cycling posts

juno10353

Beechwoodspark wrote:

The sense I got from it is sympathising with the family of the murder victim and clearly she wants nothing more to do with her father

While getting the same feeling I am surprised at the lack of sympathy for the man shot in legs......... or am I missing something.........

juno10353

Jeff2 wrote:

It's a long shot but tomorrow I will put all posting about cycling on ignore list and see if I can follow this thread with out them.

How can I do ignore too

Gadgetman496

Karen Brown seems to be wearing a fair bit of bling, wonder what's financing that?

Gadgetman496

Gardaí draw up list with half-a-dozen gun suspects

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/garda-draw-up-list-with-halfadozen-gun-suspects-36988770.html

Gadgetman496

Gardaí investigate history of getaway vehicle as lead on registration plates revealed

GARDAI investigating the shooting at Bray Boxing Club are trying to establish the history of the getaway van used by the killer after information emerged that a similar vehicle with the same registration was written-off in the UK last year.

The van had Northern Irish registration plates that come from a vehicle fitting the description of the Caddy.

However, information obtained by the Herald shows that a silver VW Caddy with that registration was written-off by an insurance company last summer.

This means the van was either repaired and put back on the road or its registration number was used on false plates on a similar make, model and colour of van.

Gardai will try to match the vehicle identification number from the VW Caddy with the vehicle registered to that plate to establish if it was fitted with false plates or is indeed the same van that was written-off.

Going by the registration plates, the van was first registered on March 30, 2010 in the UK. It was sold in September of that year and had one owner since then.

However, on July 20 last year the vehicle was written-off by an insurance company after it was extensively damaged.

Records show it was a Category C write-off, meaning the insurer decided it was uneconomical to repair the damage

There was nothing stopping the owner repairing the vehicle and returning it to the road.

It did not appear damaged while parked on Pigeon House Road.

Gardai will establish if the vehicle was stolen or sold recently and what its movements have been in the past few weeks.

As no effort was made to burn it out, it could contain a wealth of potential forensic information that could help identify the gunman.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/bray-boxing-club-shooting-garda-investigate-history-of-getaway-vehicle-as-lead-on-registration-plates-revealed-36986258.html

glenfieldman

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

Karen Brown seems to be wearing a fair bit of bling, wonder what's financing that?

What bling ? A ring and a watch, hardly Carmela Soprano

NIMAN

Who's Karen Brown?

glenfieldman

NIMAN wrote: »

Who's Karen Brown?

Katies former BFF now shacked up with Pete and their child

PARlance

glenfieldman wrote: »

What bling ? A ring and a watch, hardly Carmela Soprano

She couldn't even afford a full t-shirt

PARlance

Next thread title suggestion: Karen Browns jewellery, Bada Bling or not?

tomofson

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Playing it sweet? Most of them are dead

Only one person involved in the regency has died, and that was from natural causes.

Not one person of any significance was killed by the kinahans.

ellejay

Calhoun wrote: »

Thats quite a shame from Pete's perspective, i had a soft spot for the rags to riches type rise he had. I remember when he used to be on the doors down the seafront in Bray and lived in old court.

As for MTK, they should be avoided like the plague.

You're the first person in bray that I've heard of that has a soft spot for Mister Taylor.

Anytime I've heard his name mentioned in Bray it's followed with "scumbag" and snigger at the "found god" bit.
He's better known for working the doors on a seafront club years ago, and beating the ****e out of someone so badly they are in a wheelchair for life.
Many stories like that.

RacoonQueen

ellejay wrote: »

You're the first person in bray that I've heard of that has a soft spot for Mister Taylor.

Anytime I've heard his name mentioned in Bray it's followed with "scumbag" and snigger at the "found god" bit.
He's better known for working the doors on a seafront club years ago, and beating the ****e out of someone so badly they are in a wheelchair for life.
Many stories like that.

Was looking through articles this morning about Katie and see that her mam 'found god' alright. She certainly wasn't a god botherer in her youth. Are Katie's siblings the same or was it just Katie that took on all the god worship stuff?

ChikiChiki

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Was looking through articles this morning about Katie and see that her mam 'found god' alright. She certainly wasn't a god botherer in her youth. Are Katie's siblings the same or was it just Katie that took on all the god worship stuff?

Ones brother is well renowned physicist and academic well to do in his own right. Also a fellow of the Marie Curie Institute. I guess a few apples have fallen far from the tree.

murpho999

ellejay wrote: »

You're the first person in bray that I've heard of that has a soft spot for Mister Taylor.

Anytime I've heard his name mentioned in Bray it's followed with "scumbag" and snigger at the "found god" bit.
He's better known for working the doors on a seafront club years ago, and beating the ****e out of someone so badly they are in a wheelchair for life.
Many stories like that.

Wasn’t he a bouncer in “Classses” otherwise known as The Dugg Inn which is now Platform Pizza?

Thesomersarms

refusetolose wrote: »

they rebranded cos they were threatened to be sued by mgm media in america

In terms of a rebrand I was referencing this https://www.google.ie/amp/www.thejournal.ie/mtk-gym-sold-kinahan-3687386-Nov2017/%3famp=1 rather than the change of name due to the legal dispute with mgm, basically a complete managerial clearout and then the large buyout upfront in cash, that was done to distance the brand from the regency and kinahan, yet this incident again drags the brand back into the spotlight and raises questions again about who is really running the show there.

White lighting

Thesomersarms wrote: »

refusetolose wrote: »

they rebranded cos they were threatened to be sued by mgm media in america

In terms of a rebrand I was referencing this https://www.google.ie/amp/www.thejournal.ie/mtk-gym-sold-kinahan-3687386-Nov2017/%3famp=1 rather than the change of name due to the legal dispute with mgm, basically a complete managerial clearout and then the large buyout upfront in cash, that was done to distance the brand from the regency and kinahan, yet this incident again drags the brand back into the spotlight and raises questions again about who is really running the show there.

Thats all bollox IMO. There was no buy out. They claim there was a buy out but the one running it now Sandra Vaughan is up to her neck in it too and has had dealings with the Kinahans going back years.

ellejay

murpho999 wrote: »

Wasn’t he a bouncer in “Classses” otherwise known as The Dugg Inn which is now Platform Pizza?

Locally known as "The Drug Inn" back in the day.

ellejay

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Was looking through articles this morning about Katie and see that her mam 'found god' alright. She certainly wasn't a god botherer in her youth. Are Katie's siblings the same or was it just Katie that took on all the god worship stuff?

Siblings aren't as into god as Katie, but then they're not in the media as much as her. But no, they're not as devout - not sure if that's the right word / description.

Thesomersarms

White lighting wrote: »

Thats all bollox IMO. There was no buy out. They claim there was a buy out but the one running it now Sandra Vaughan is up to her neck in it too and has had dealings with the Kinahans going back years.

I actually agree with you, it was just for appearances.

Joeseph Balls

runrun2 wrote: »

Katie must be pretty disgusted as well the way RTE and the media in general hardly ever filmed/covered her fights until she started making headway in the Olympics yet she already had European and world titles.

Yet I've never seen such media coverage for her in the past few days even though shes one of the most successful boxer and Olympians to come out of Ireland.

Total joke.

Katie was reported on and fights in the world's from quaters/semis on and euros were shown on RTE or tg4 well before she won gold in the olympics
There was no interest out side of boxing circles.

tomofson

tomofson wrote: »

Only one person involved in the regency has died, and that was from natural causes.

Not one person of any significance was killed by the kinahans.

Firstly, your Hutch tinted glasses need cleaning.
Secondly, a whole lot of those that the Kinahans murdered had some involvement in the planning or logistics of the bungled attack on the Regency.

Nobody believes that this is one innocent families struggle against an evil drug cartel.

Mucky_Tackies

Was the name of the 3rd fella shot mentioned? Dont see it anywhere.

Mucky_Tackies

Mucky_Tackies wrote: »

Was the name of the 3rd fella shot mentioned? Dont see it anywhere.

Yep.
Ian Britton (35) shot 3 times in the leg.

dbas

Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »

Firstly, your Hutch tinted glasses need cleaning.
Secondly, a whole lot of those that the Kinahans murdered had some involvement in the planning or logistics of the bungled attack on the Regency.

Nobody believes that this is one innocent families struggle against an evil drug cartel.

Not sure he is saying that. But I thought 6 people took part in the hit in Regency. One is dead of natural causes and one is on trial ( I'm very suspicious of the delay in this trial also- We'll wait and see the outcome there)

What about the rest of them? I generally assume the Guards know the people involved in these hits as they are the top criminals but they don't have evidence so they can't touch them. Kinahans definitely know who they are but none of them have been touched

glenfieldman

dbas wrote: »

Not sure he is saying that. But I thought 6 people took part in the hit in Regency. One is dead of natural causes and one is on trial ( I'm very suspicious of the delay in this trial also- We'll wait and see the outcome there)

What about the rest of them? I generally assume the Guards know the people involved in these hits as they are the top criminals but they don't have evidence so they can't touch them. Kinahans definitely know who they are but none of them have been touched

Two were also murdered

El Polo Loco

Sounds like she has no sympathy for the father alright

Strazdas

El Polo Loco wrote: »

Sounds like she has no sympathy for the father alright

I'm wondering if there was far more to her falling out with him than meets the eye. Did she suss there was dodgy stuff going on in the background?

ohnonotgmail

Strazdas wrote: »

I'm wondering if there was far more to her falling out with him than meets the eye. Did she suss there was dodgy stuff going on in the background?

He got her friend pregnant. I think that might be enough. Especially for somebody religious like she is.

Strazdas

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

He got her friend pregnant. I think that might be enough. Especially for somebody religious like she is.

Indeed, but people are assuming that is the 'only' reason for the falling out and nothing else. This other dodgy stuff may have been going on at the same time and she might have been aware of it, thus making things even worse between them.

The Nal

Strazdas wrote: »

I'm wondering if there was far more to her falling out with him than meets the eye. Did she suss there was dodgy stuff going on in the background?

Apparently yeah. In with a bad crowd. And him banging her mate of course.

Calhoun

ellejay wrote: »

You're the first person in bray that I've heard of that has a soft spot for Mister Taylor.

Anytime I've heard his name mentioned in Bray it's followed with "scumbag" and snigger at the "found god" bit.
He's better known for working the doors on a seafront club years ago, and beating the ****e out of someone so badly they are in a wheelchair for life.
Many stories like that.

I meant more like it looked like he had turned his life around ect, I don't know all the bad stories but for a moment it looked like things were going into the right direction and a father and daughter team from Bray had done something great.

Obviously that didn't last long, and was only a facade for him.

DavidLyons_

murpho999 wrote: »

Wasn’t he a bouncer in “Classses” otherwise known as The Dugg Inn which is now Platform Pizza?

Back Bar of the Porterhouse wasn't it? Had a fearsome reputation back then.

Wasn't considered to be a very nice person that's for sure.

Jim Bob Scratcher

DavidLyons_ wrote: »

Back Bar of the Porterhouse wasn't it? Had a fearsome reputation back then.

Wasn't considered to be a very nice person that's for sure.

He sounds like a right scumbag!

Donald Trump

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

He got her friend pregnant. I think that might be enough. Especially for somebody religious like she is.

Which wan? The wan in the papers who is 30 and had a kid at 18? Is that his babby?


45 and riding an 18 year old? There's hope for us all!