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Best way to deal with change of Tenant

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  • 05-06-2018 11:50am
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    SusanC10
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    My elderly Mum has a Rental Property. Tenants there 3 years. Not in RPZ. Tenants are Eastern European and are Mother, Daughter, Daughter's Boyfriend and Child.
    Pay rent on time, keep the place spotless, do their own DIY etc.
    Mother has new Partner and is moving in with him. At the moment Mother's name is only name on Lease.
    Daughter and Boyfriend want to take over Lease.
    My Mum is happy with that but she would like to increase the Rent slightly (€50).

    What is the best way to deal with this ?


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    whomitconcerns
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    Tell them the rent is increasing. But do your due diligence on them as named tenants. Don't assume because Mammy was ok that the daughter will be ok when it's all on her.

    It's a new lease is needed also, the mother should in theory be giving you proper notice for being there 3 years. Rest of family are licensees of the tenant not actual tenants

    Get it all signed and in writing either way


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    the_syco
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    SusanC10 wrote: »
    Daughter and Boyfriend want to take over Lease.
    New lease, new deposit, tbh. If they can't afford the deposit, get someone else in. I'm thinking if they don't have their own place, there could be a reason for this.


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    Graces7
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    the_syco wrote: »
    New lease, new deposit, tbh. If they can't afford the deposit, get someone else in. I'm thinking if they don't have their own place, there could be a reason for this.

    Quite normal to live as a family in a new country


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    4ensic15
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    whomitconcerns wrote: »

    It's a new lease is needed also,

    Not necessarily, the mother could assign or sublet on her lease. I would be inclined to insist on subletting with the mother keeping up the payments.


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    DaraDali
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    the_syco wrote: »
    SusanC10 wrote: »
    Daughter and Boyfriend want to take over Lease.
    New lease, new deposit, tbh. If they can't afford the deposit, get someone else in. I'm thinking if they don't have their own place, there could be a reason for this.

    Pay rent on time, keep the place spotless, do their own D, they sound like model tenents suggesting on getting someone else just for this? And they say landlords are monsters 


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    SusanC10
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    Thanks All.
    My Mum had a very difficult Tenant before this family so she is happy to keep these people. Better the devil and all that.


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    whomitconcerns
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    DaraDali wrote: »
    Pay rent on time, keep the place spotless, do their own D, they sound like model tenents suggesting on getting someone else just for this? And they say landlords are monsters 

    But they are not the OP's tenants and currently they have no responsibility for the rent being paid or not. Why would you risk your house in a business relationship with strangers? You need to do your checks.
    SusanC10 wrote: »
    Thanks All.
    My Mum had a very difficult Tenant before this family so she is happy to keep these people. Better the devil and all that.

    Understood OP, but bear in mind. Just because the mother as tenant owns up to her responsibilities definitely does not mean the children and partners are the same. So I would not automatically accept them unless they can prove they can pay the rent and the responsibility that comes with. Otherwise you are risking a "ah you know our mum and us, we are good for it, we'll get it for you next month" situation. They are not your mums friends they are (to be) her tenants.


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    SusanC10
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    Thanks All. I am going to have another chat with my Mum. So far she has asked for proper written notice from the Mother and Work References from the Daughter and Boyfriend.
    The Daughter and Boyfriend do not have Landlord References as this house is the only house that they have lived in in Ireland.
    My Mum personally knows the Daughter's Employer so she can verify that.


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    whomitconcerns
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    Doesn't sound so bad so. But don't cut corners. Good luck


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    the_syco
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    DaraDali wrote: »
    Pay rent on time, keep the place spotless, do their own D, they sound like model tenents suggesting on getting someone else just for this? And they say landlords are monsters
    Thus far, they have not being tenants; rather people who have lived in the house. As I have said, if they have the money for a deposit, and can afford the rent, grand. If not, don't take any sob storys, nor promises of payment at a later date. Upfront, or not at all.


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