What washing powder does Una Mulally use?

c68zapdsm5i1ru

Does anyone else find her almost frighteningly dictatorial? Fair enough, she has her views and she's entitled to them and in some cases a lot of people probably agree with her.

But her whole attitude seems to be 'I'm right and everyone else is wrong' and she appears to be on a mission to try and shape society totally around her view of how things should be with no ability to view anything from any other angle but her own. As a journalist I find her very strident and blinkered, and very few of her articles recently seem to have any balance.

HONKEY TONK

I can alway tell if she wrote an article by the Headline title

She is forever having a chip on her shoulder.

Goodshape

No, it's nice to have a strong voice with a focus on women's issues.

Not that "women's issues" is the only thing she covers. Seems to be a fine mix
here tbh: https://www.irishtimes.com/profile/una-mullally-7.2276478

Mutant z

Yes she's the worst of the worst of the feminazis the way she constantly plays the victim card is naesauting she just cant stand that anyone could possibly have a different view to her.

Mutant z

One thing i really hate is when she refers to herself and others like her as liberals they are anything but they are totalitarian lefties which isnt the same thing at all

c68zapdsm5i1ru

Mutant z wrote: »

One thing i really hate is when she refers to herself and others like her as liberals they are anything but they are totalitarian lefties which isnt the same thing at all

I don't think she's liberal at all. She's actually got a very narrow view of things and is determined to impose it on everyone, and quite obviously looks down on those who don't agree with her or want the same things as her.

Will I Am Not

Reagan Many Acorn wrote: »

I don't think she's liberal at all. She's actually got a very narrow view of things and is determined to impose it on everyone, and quite obviously looks down on those who don't agree with her or want the same things as her.

That’s what liberal means now...

quintana76

She is excessively strident, blinkered and intolerant of dissent from the narrow righteous path on which she threads.

Fighting Tao

She'll be delighted that she's hit the big time like Louise O'Neill with her own boards thread!

Mutant z

Herself and Aodhan O Riordan would make an excellent match they are as just as intolerant of opposing opinions as each other.

meeeeh

Reagan Many Acorn wrote: »

I don't think she's liberal at all. She's actually got a very narrow view of things and is determined to impose it on everyone, and quite obviously looks down on those who don't agree with her or want the same things as her.

She writes opinion pieces, she is there to present her point of view. I don't particularly like her writting. I dont like Breda O'Brien either but I don't whine every time I disagree with them that they should present point of view more like mine.

razorblunt

Another example of people who think because they have a column they're famous and their bang drumming needs listening to.

Electric Picnic is on soon too, she'll be on about lack of female acts again. Just after she posts the article on lack of women working the bin lorries.

Wait...she writes for the Indo doesn't she? That is the bin lorry!

She certainly has a depressingly narrow range of concerns. It would be nice if once in a while she wrote about social justice issues rather than the latest right-on liberal rights for middle class people. Shockingly boring.

She used to present an alternative music programme on TG4 many years ago (Ceol ar an Imeall) so my first impressions of her were quite positive. It's unfortunate that she seems to have straightjacketed herself into her current ideology.

Mutant z

To the likes of Mulally no refugee is an illegal immigrant they are all fleeing persecution a very misleading and dishonest view but thats how it is when you're as agenda driven as she is.

c68zapdsm5i1ru

meeeeh wrote: »

She writes opinion pieces, she is there to present her point of view. I don't particularly like her writting. I dont like Breda O'Brien either but I don't whine every time I disagree with them that they should present point of view more like mine.

No one's 'whining'. We're commenting on what we feel is a dictatorial and intolerant attitude towards others by someone who writes in a national paper.

I don't know if I can face another one of these threads lads..

Fighting Tao

Reagan Many Acorn wrote: »

No one's 'whining'. We're commenting on what we feel is a dictatorial and intolerant towards others attitude.

Have you not read opinion pieces before? They intend to provoke and are usually at one and of the spectrum or the other on a topic.

c68zapdsm5i1ru

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Have you not read opinion pieces before? They intend to provoke and are usually at one and of the spectrum or the other on a topic.

Yes, and her attitude provokes me.

Mutant z

The problem is far too many of those of her mindset have inflicted the media and are drowning out alternate views its only ever their side of things that they want to hear.

Goodshape

Reagan Many Acorn wrote: »

a dictatorial and intolerant towards others attitude.

Examples?


Although I would say it's difficult to appear tolerant "towards others attitude" when you're talking about equality and human rights issues. Those things tend to be binary. Either you think people should be treated fairly and equally, or you don't. It's not "lefty totalitarianism" if you have no time for those that don't.

Fighting Tao

Reagan Many Acorn wrote: »

Yes, and her attitude provokes me.

So you are intolerant to her attitude. Seems fair enough...you do exactly what you accuse her of.

PARlance

Fighting Tao wrote: »

She'll be delighted that she's hit the big time like Louise O'Neill with her own boards thread!

She probably started it.

WinnyThePoo

Mutant z wrote: »

The problem is far too many of those of her mindset have inflicted the media and are drowning out alternate views its only ever their side of things that they want to hear.

Breda O'brien has an opinion piece in the same newspaper.

Signore Fancy Pants

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Mutant z

Mutant z wrote: »

One thing i really hate is when she refers to herself and others like her as liberals they are anything but they are totalitarian lefties which isnt the same thing at all

Why aren't they totalitarian "righties"?

I can't imagine the bould Úna, or indeed anybody given a job by the newspaper of the Protestant Ascendancy and Unionism that is The Irish Times, being an economic leftwinger.

Irish "liberalism" is a thoroughly rightwing ideology - all these individual "rights" are a felicitious distraction from social injustice and feed fully into capitalism's desire to make every individual a market, a target for products. The more individualism is promoted, the most consumerism is promoted. "Because I'm worth it".

meeeeh

razorblunt wrote: »

Wait...she writes for the Indo doesn't she? That is the bin lorry!

No she does not.

Mutant z

Fighting Tao wrote: »

So you are intolerant to her attitude. Seems fair enough...you do exactly what you accuse her of.

If she had her way all those with a different opinion to her would be banned from the airwaves why would you have any sympathy for her.

Grayson

Reagan Many Acorn wrote: »

No one's 'whining'. We're commenting on what we feel is a dictatorial and intolerant attitude towards others by someone who writes in a national paper.

Just scanning through her articles. I can't see where she's like a dictator.

https://www.irishtimes.com/profile/una-mullally-7.2276478

Colonel Claptrap

I disagree with most of the views of Una, Fintan O'Toole, and Breda O'Brien.

But I read their columns every week as they challenge my world view. It's a sign of a good newspaper if you ask me.

Reading only columnists you agree with is boring and can be dangerous. It gives you a warped sense that your opinion has to be right because every journalist you read agrees with you.

Reading Una's pieces reminds me that we are not all the same in society. That there are others out there like Una, Fintan and Breda and that their vote is as equal as mine. It's a sobering thought.

Snake Plisken

Fighting Tao wrote: »

She'll be delighted that she's hit the big time like Louise O'Neill with her own boards thread!

Will it have the excellent, witty title changes the the Louise O’Neill one has?

Mutant z

Of course when there was actual sexual abuse of girls in Rotherham and Telford she was no where to be seen why doesnt she make herself useful and tweet about that or is the religion of peace out of bounds for self proclaimed feminists like Una Mulally.

c68zapdsm5i1ru

Colonel Claptrap wrote: »

I disagree with most of the views of Una, Fintan O'Toole, and Breda O'Brien.

But I read their columns every week as they challenge my world view. It's a sign of a good newspaper if you ask me.

Reading only columnists you agree with is boring and can be dangerous. It gives you a warped sense that your opinion has to be right because every journalist you read agrees with you.

Reading Una's pieces reminds me that we are not all the same in society. That there are others out there like Una, Fintan and Breda and that their vote is as equal as mine. It's a sobering thought.

That's very true. But , although I disagree with the views of many columnists, there are only a handful that I find really strident and intolerant in their writing. Una is one of those. Some of the Sindo journalists are also very single minded and write as if they assume that all right minded people agree with them, and anyone who doesn't isn't worth bothering about.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't know if I can face another one of these threads lads..

'It is not those who inflict the most but those who endure the most who will ultimately triumph.'

- Traolach Mac Suibhne (1879-1920)

Grayson

Mutant z wrote: »

If she had her way all those with a different opinion to her would be banned from the airwaves why would you have any sympathy for her.

Care to point out where she said that? I see a trend here of people exaggerating whenever a feminist, particularly one who's female, is mentioned.

In another thread someone mentioned a feminist that said all men are bastards. I asked for them to show where and it never appeared. In fact I think I asked to show where any mainstream feminist that's currently writing said it and they couldn't show it.

Just look at her last 20 or 50 articles in the IT and show me where she said anything like that, or said that differing opinions should be banned.

And try to do it without using the word feminazi

meeeeh

Mutant z wrote: »

If she had her way all those with a different opinion to her would be banned from the airwaves why would you have any sympathy for her.

Any quote about that? You also claim she writes about immigration, I don't read every column she writes but I never came accross her writting about immigration.

You are criticising her for the failings you imagine her to have and not for something she actually wrote.

Edit: I see that Rotheram was mentioned again. That must be a new Goodwin for triggered right wingers.

Grayson

Mutant z wrote: »

Of course when there was actual sexual abuse of girls in Rotherham and Telford she was no where to be seen why doesnt she make herself useful and tweet about that or is the religion of peace out of bounds for self proclaimed feminists like Una Mulally.

Muslims. Of course you had to go there.

rather than complain about something she has said, you're complaining about what she hasn't said? You do realise that not everyone is obsessed about muslims? And she's an Irish journalist, that's a UK story.

PARlance

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Will it have the excellent, witty title changes the the Louise O’Neill one has?

Me first, please.

Una: Does she drive you Doolally?

Goodshape

Mutant z wrote: »

Of course when there was actual sexual abuse of girls in Rotherham and Telford she was no where to be seen why doesnt she make herself useful and tweet about that or is the religion of peace out of bounds for self proclaimed feminists like Una Mulally.

Wait... is she complaining too much, or not enough? You're sending mixed messages here.

Also, Rotherham and Telford are in the UK. Not sure how much she could hope to achieve by focusing on those issues in her Irish Times column.

Mutant z

meeeeh wrote: »

Any quote about that? You also claim she writes about immigration, I don't read every column she writes but I never came accross her writting about immigration.

You are criticising her for the failings you imagine her to have and not for something she actually wrote.

Are you joking she's always quick to get the racist card out on anything remotely touching immigration but out of interest when has she ever mentioned the disgusting treatment of women inside islamic culture because i dont think ive come across it.

meeeeh

Mutant z wrote: »

Are you joking she's always quick to get the racist card out on anything remotely touching immigration but out of interest when has she ever mentioned the disgusting treatment of women inside islamic culture because i dont think ive come across it.

Any quotes for that.

Mutant z

Goodshape wrote: »

Wait... is she complaining too much, or not enough? You're sending mixed messages here.

Also, Rotherham and Telford are in the UK. Not sure how much she could hope to achieve by focusing on those issues in her Irish Times column.

She had no problem whinging about the US presidential election result so surely she could bring herself to mention a very serious issue and the suffering of vulnerable young girls by grooming gangs just across the water.

Grayson

Mutant z wrote: »

She had no problem whinging about the US presidential election result so surely she could bring herself to mention a very serious issue and the suffering of vulnerable young girls by grooming gangs just across the water.

So every columnist that mentions Trump now has to talk about Rotherham?

You're the person who's obsessed with this. This is an issue with you, not her.

btw, you manage to get any of those sources you have been asked for?

CrankyHaus

I stopped getting the Irish Times because of its focus on opinion columnists like Una Mullaly to the detriment of actual news reporting. Just in the last year they've gotten rid of Paddy Agnew, who did solid reporting from Italy for decades.

Instead now it's mainly press releases reported as news, a panel of establishment hacks in the opinion section that gives an illusion of genuine debate by having Breda O'Brien as well as Una's ilk and some middle aged cranks making bad puns in the letter section. It's sad because they still have some solid journalists but the paper's focus hasn't been on news reporting for years.

Una's articles are usually poor (she came from fashion blogging) but I have to respect her commitment to the causes she believes in. That said Zappone making her the Chair of the LGBT strategy group smacked slightly of cronyism and was an example of the institutional Quango state that the Irish Times seems to be the official paper of and which most Irish people are sick of.

meeeeh

CrankyHaus wrote: »

I stopped getting the Irish Times because of its focus on opinion columnists like Una Mullaly to the detriment of actual news reporting. Just in the last year they've gotten rid of Paddy Agnew, who did solid reporting from Italy for decades.

Instead now it's mainly press releases reported as news, a panel of establishment hacks in the opinion section that gives an illusion of genuine debate by having Breda O'Brien as well as Una's ilk and some middle aged cranks making bad puns in the letter section. It's sad because they still have some solid journalists but the paper's focus hasn't been on news reporting for years.

Una's articles are usually poor (she came from fashion blogging) but I have to respect her commitment to the causes she believes in. That said Zappone making her the Chair of the LGBT strategy group smacked slightly of cronyism and was an example of the institutional Quango state that the Irish Times seems to be the official paper of and which most Irish people are sick of.

I don't agree with everything expressed here but I do think Irish Times was better under Geralndine Kennedy than under subsequent editors. I didn't think Una did fashion blogging, I know Laura Kennedy did and still does beauty.

backspin.

She's what my mother's generation would have called a dose.

Will I Am Not

Grayson wrote: »

So every columnist that mentions Trump now has to talk about Rotherham?

You're the person who's obsessed with this. This is an issue with you, not her.

btw, you manage to get any of those sources you have been asked for?

Do you do anything else in this life other than be the guardian of all things left of centre on boards.ie?
Do you have time to eat, drink, sleep, shop?

Captain Red Beard

Chewbacca wrote: »

She is a big bag of gee's.

Hairy gees?

Captain Red Beard

Captain Red Beard wrote: »

Hairy gees?

No. Definitely baldy.

Vladimir Poontang

She's a <snip>

Colonel Claptrap

Colonel Claptrap wrote: »

I disagree with most of the views of Una, Fintan O'Toole, and Breda O'Brien.

But I read their columns every week as they challenge my world view. It's a sign of a good newspaper if you ask me.

Reading only columnists you agree with is boring and can be dangerous. It gives you a warped sense that your opinion has to be right because every journalist you read agrees with you.

Reading Una's pieces reminds me that we are not all the same in society. That there are others out there like Una, Fintan and Breda and that their vote is as equal as mine. It's a sobering thought.

At this stage in the game, it would be Oliver J. Flanagan and Alice Glenn who would challenge the views of most Irish people. Irish "liberals" are the new conservatives. Their views are the consensus - and as the studies of John Horgan and others of Irish journalists have shown throughout the decades, Irish journalism has for a long time been ideologically aligned to "liberalism" - journalists are not exactly challenging their own consensus there. Only their inferiors should have their consensus challenged.

If the recent referenda really were a "revolution", Hannah Arendt's remark - 'The most radical revolutionary will become a conservative the day after the revolution.' - is particularly fitting.

Gravelly

The issue I have with Una is not the right-on, intolerant tripe she peddles - she's perfectly entitled to do so, it's the fact that she's spent years essentially writing the same bloody 4 columns.

Her 4 stock columns are:

1. Men are Evil and Keep De Wimmin Down
   
2. Immigrants are Great and are Much Better than Horrible White People
   
3. Ireland is a Really Shït Country: Discuss
   
4. Look How Cool I and My Cool Friends Are

If you look through her output here you will see that EVERY SINGLE ONE of her many, many columns are one of the four above.

Wouldn't it be nice if, for once, she wrote something a little different?