Boy 14 Killed After Car He Was Driving Crashed in Donegal

Pops_20

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/boy-14-killed-after-car-he-was-driving-crashed-in-donegal-1.3524422

Donegal strikes again. How did he get a car in the first place? The headline makes it sound like the car crashed itself.

greeno

It’s easy to judge when it is not on you’re own doorstep or doesn’t affect you. We’ve all done stupid things. RIP and condolences to the family.

Atoms for Peace

The article clrarly states he was driving op and it occurred off road.

SEPT 23 1989

The reckless invincibility of youth if you could only bottle it

Rip to the kid just unlucky

pjohnson

Thank god he didnt hit anyone else at least.

Jenneke87

His family must be in bits. Only 14 years old and died such a needless death. I hope his family can come to terms with it.

The Backwards Man

I can't see this thread going anywhere good in this cesspit.

RIP.

Wanderer78

Driving really should be taught at a young age within our educational system. Rip buddy

The Backwards Man

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Driving really should be taught at a young age within our educational system. Rip buddy

It goes way past that, it's the whole attitude to driving by society in general, summed up by four small words but incredibly dangerous words, 'sure where's the harm?'

Sure where's the harm in driving without passing a test?
Sure where's the harm in driving after a pint?
Sure where's the harm in driving driving without insurance?

And the most galling part, you have gombeen politicians promoting this attitude for their own ends.

But anyway, that's a story for another day. It won't bring this youngfella back or do anything to help is family.

Hector Bellend

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

The reckless invincibility of youth if you could only bottle it

Rip to the kid just unlucky

It's more stupid than unlucky.

The_Kew_Tour

We all did stupid things as a kid.

Just most of us got away with it. I'm lucky to alive after 1 or 2 near misses too.

Most of us live to tell the tale.

At least nobody else died if that's a consolation.

But Rip to young lad.

We don't know exact reason why he died earlier. It might not be as clear cut as it seems.

feartuath

We all learned to drive a car at that age growing up in the 70's on a farm.
We were driving tractors 2 years before that.

McMurphy

Hector Bellend wrote: »

It's more stupid than unlucky.

We all did silly things while at the invincible age of 14.

Rip young lad.

badtoro

Pops_20 wrote: »

The headline makes it sound like the car crashed itself.

I dunno how you worked that one out

Donegal, lovely county, know some great people there, but easily the county I've driven in with the most dangerous drivers :eek:

He wasn't on a public road, it's very normal to be driving at 14 on private land. I was doing it much younger particularly in tractors. It's just a sad accident no need for the outrage, a lot more young lads have been killed swimming than driving cars in the last week.

_brendand_

badtoro wrote: »

I dunno how you worked that one out

Donegal, lovely county, know some great people there, but easily the county I've driven in with the most dangerous drivers :eek:

That's definitely Dublin in my experience. Awful drivers around here.

retro:electro

“Donegal strikes again”

Well that’s a really stupid thing to say. This could have happened anywhere.
RIP to the young lad.

The Backwards Man

Joseph Wet Dove wrote: »

He wasn't on a public road, it's very normal to be driving at 14 on private land. I was doing it much younger particularly in tractors. It's just a sad accident no need for the outrage, a lot more young lads have been killed swimming than driving cars in the last week.

Sure where's the harm?

Pelvis

feartuath wrote: »

We all learned to drive a car at that age growing up in the 70's on a farm.
We were driving tractors 2 years before that.

It's called progress.

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amcalester

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Sure where's the harm?

Well it turned out OK for Nox and that seems to be all that matters.

Subtle

Admittedly I rolled my eyes when I first read the headline on this on RTE news... But then I thought about it and guessed that it likely happened in some rural location out west, before I looked at the full story.

Anyway, here's my point. Some kids are very mature at a young age these days. This kid was 14... Perhaps he was only a month away from turning 15. That then would mean he was then only a year off being 16 and eligible for a provisional license.

I actually came across a 12 year old kid in the past who used to drive in a VERY remote area. While I was shocked at the time, I had to admit to myself that this kid was super mature and very grounded. And I would have trusted them more than some friends of mine in their 20s if it came to having to be driven somewhere safely.

Dakota Dan

feartuath wrote: »

We all learned to drive a car at that age growing up in the 70's on a farm.
We were driving tractors 2 years before that.

12 driving a tractor? That was old back in the 70's, usually around 9.

bucketybuck

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Driving really should be taught at a young age within our educational system. Rip buddy

A young kid driving a car off the road and away from traffic.

Simple fact is that that is exactly how thousands of young people learned the basic mechanics of driving a car, the country is full of smart young people who got into a car and drove around a big field perfectly safely, learning how to handle a car.

Without knowing the details here I wouldn't rush to much judgement, just a young kid doing something hundreds of thousands of young kids have done before.

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Wanderer78

bucketybuck wrote: »

A young kid driving a car off the road and away from traffic.

Simple fact is that that is exactly how thousands of young people learned the basic mechanics of driving a car, the country is full of smart young people who got into a car and drove around a big field perfectly safely, learning how to handle a car.

Without knowing the details here I wouldn't rush to much judgement, just a young kid doing something hundreds of thousands of young kids have done before.

good point, but it kinna makes a lot of sense if we just taught kids how to drive in school

JustAThought

I'd hate to see the giddiness, macho and messing if that happened -let alone the sudden onslaught of thousands of new teenage learners onto the riads at the same time. Nightmare. This poor kid was learning off road on private land - not on busy roads and family filled carparks like the rest of us. Its just terribly sad and tragic. .

bucketybuck

Wanderer78 wrote: »

good point, but it kinna makes a lot of sense if we just taught kids how to drive in school

How on earth would you even get the resources for that, never mind the time? Supply cars and big wide open spaces to schools so that teachers can bring 25/30 kids off for one day and teach them everything about driving?

Then the kids would still want to go home and spin about in a car to practice so nothing is solved anyway.

This was probably just a freak accident, I don't know that anything really needs to be changed.

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c.p.w.g.w

Why was a 14 year old driving?

Wanderer78

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So life has a cost now! Shame on you both!

davycc

feartuath wrote: »

We all learned to drive a car at that age growing up in the 70's on a farm.
We were driving tractors 2 years before that.

Same here in the eighties myself. I was a lanky kid so I could reach the pedals safely . .

Rip to the poor boy his family must be devastated

Graces7

I think the memory of the multiple deaths crash in Buncrana lives long in our memories. I lived up there then and it was a terrible event

https://www.rte.ie/news/2014/1218/667605-donegal/

and this

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/donegal-left-numb-by-two-crashes-in-20-hours-claiming-five-lives-1.2737693

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Pops_20 wrote: »

Donegal strikes again.

Wtf sort of an idiotic comment is that?

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Alkers

Many people who have the land (or access to it) would have a field car/jeep/bike/quad and as far as I'm aware there's no minimum age do drive one once not on a public road? How he was going fast enough to kill himself is another thing though

soups05

I feel very sad for the young lad and his family, it's a terrible loss to all concerned. But one point everyone seems to be missing is that he took the car from his home and drove to the off road location. So despite what many posters above have said he was, in fact, on the public roads at some point.
Now picture the reaction if he had crashed the car into a young family on a main road, sympathy would be in short supply.

while many seem to find it acceptable to have a kid driving cos he is off road they choose to ignore how he got there. add in the fact that he kept the car at home and it's likely the parent knew and approved of it.

Hopefully some people will learn from this tragedy and not allow children to drive, no matter how mature they seem.

The Backwards Man

Simona1986 wrote: »

Many people who have the land (or access to it) would have a field car/jeep/bike/quad and as far as I'm aware there's no minimum age do drive one once not on a public road? How he was going fast enough to kill himself is another thing though

There was a poor lady killed driving a tractor lawnmower yesterday too, you don't have to be speeding to get into difficulty.

Dakota Dan

Dakota Dan wrote: »

12 driving a tractor? That was old back in the 70's, usually around 9.

I started driving at 8, doing a days work in the tractor by the age of 10 or 11 as are most lads who grew up on farms. Kids are still taught to drive young. It's a good thing, there just has to be great care taken. This tragic accident is not a reason for everyone to get up in arms over people young people driving on private land.

The Backwards Man

Joseph Wet Dove wrote: »

I started driving at 8, doing a days work in the tractor by the age of 10 or 11 as are most lads who grew up on farms. Kids are still taught to drive young. It's a good thing, there just has to be great care taken. This tragic accident is not a reason for everyone to get up in arms over people young people driving on private land.

And as long as attitudes like this exist, people will die needlessly.

We all did it nox, most of us got away with it, most still do. But it sure as fcuk doesn't make it right.

Raging_Ninja

Wanderer78 wrote: »

So life has a cost now! Shame on you both!

Life has always had a cost. There isn't an infinite amount of money to go around you know.

The Backwards Man

The Backwards Man wrote: »

And as long as attitudes like this exist, people will die needlessly.

We all did it nox, most of us got away with it, most still do. But it sure as fcuk doesn't make it right.

Why not? People die legally driving on the road, should be stop that too? It's exceptionally rare for people to die in the way this boy did, it's not an issue. Meanwhile real issues are ignored.

Kids should learn to drive young.

Guy:Incognito

JustAThought wrote: »

I'd hate to see the giddiness, macho and messing if that happened -let alone the sudden onslaught of thousands of new teenage learners onto the riads at the same time. Nightmare. This poor kid was learning off road on private land - not on busy roads and family filled carparks like the rest of us. Its just terribly sad and tragic. .

You learn with someone teaching you, not given a car and head off on your own.

dixiefly

bucketybuck wrote: »

A young kid driving a car off the road and away from traffic.

Simple fact is that that is exactly how thousands of young people learned the basic mechanics of driving a car, the country is full of smart young people who got into a car and drove around a big field perfectly safely, learning how to handle a car.

Without knowing the details here I wouldn't rush to much judgement, just a young kid doing something hundreds of thousands of young kids have done before.

What is the story with this? I read initially that it was off road and now the indo are saying that it was on a road.

There is really no excuse or justification for him to have been driving on his own on a public road. he could have killed / injured more than himself.

Lackey

[quote="Joseph Wet Dove;107217557"

Kids should learn to drive young.[/quote]

take the excitement out of it ...something everyone learns not just the ones whose parents can afford it.

Driving is a skill everyone should have, make it as mundane as it actually is to teenagers not something exciting.

Anyway .....
RIP young man,
Devasting 14 years old

dixiefly

https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0609/969312-donegal-crash/

A teenage boy has died in a single-vehicle road crash on the Inishowen Peninsula, in Co Donegal yesterday evening.

It is understood the boy was 14-years-old and the driver and was the only occupant of the car which crashed on a rural road at Tullyally between Redcastle and Moville.

Billy86

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I can't see this thread going anywhere good in this cesspit.

RIP.

It's grand, he wasn't black, Muslim or a traveler so the usual suspects have and will continue to move on in disappointment after scouring the link in the OP.

It's a tragic accident that could have been avoided had he not been let drive a car at 14 (unless he swiped the keys from the parents), let alone on what appears may have been a public road from the (edit) RTE link above. There has always been quite a somewhat lax attitude to this kind of thing in parts of rural Ireland, and sadly this is the consequence. Can't really blame the kid, he was too young to know better, and now he'll never be old enough to either.

Overall it's been a horrible few weeks for young deaths around the country.

Graces7

The Backwards Man wrote: »

And as long as attitudes like this exist, people will die needlessly.

We all did it nox, most of us got away with it, most still do. But it sure as fcuk doesn't make it right.

Well said. Thank you

The Backwards Man

Joseph Wet Dove wrote: »

Why not? People die legally driving on the road, should be stop that too? It's exceptionally rare for people to die in the way this boy did, it's not an issue. Meanwhile real issues are ignored.

Kids should learn to drive young.

It's not an issue? Seriously? What's more of an issue than young people dying on the roads nox?

Herb Powell

Pops_20 wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/boy-14-killed-after-car-he-was-driving-crashed-in-donegal-1.3524422

Donegal strikes again. How did he get a car in the first place? The headline makes it sound like the car crashed itself.

Really?

The Backwards Man

dixiefly wrote: »

What is the story with this? I read initially that it was off road and now the indo are saying that it was on a road.

There is really no excuse or justification for him to have been driving on his own on a public road. he could have killed / injured more than himself.

It's an unpaved road in the bog, not sure if it's council jurisdiction or not, hence the confusion I guess.