2018-2019 Champions Cup

Eod100

Think this is it before matches tomorrow. Saracens should finish 1st tomorrow. Glasgow likely 6th.

1) Racing, 21 points, 62 PD
2) Leinster, 20 points, 98 PD
3) Edinburgh, 19 points, 62 points
4) Saracens, 18 points, 67 PD
5) Munster, 17 points, 64 PD
6) Ulster, 18 points, 2 PD
7) Toulouse, 17 points, 10 PD
8) Montpellier, 16 points, 51, PD
9) Glasgow, 14 points, 38 PD

Boscoirl

Munster need Montpellier to beat Edinburgh next week to have the chance of the home QF while matching the match points they get.

Havent worked out what happens if we finish level but they play Friday night so we will know hat we need

Burkie1203

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Based on performance today I would like to see Toulouse in the qtr, they are far better than half the teams out their

Toulouse will get TBP win v Bath.
That's 22 points. They should get through

Buer

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Toulouse will get TBP win v Bath.
That's 22 points. They should get through

Which is likely to send them to Racing right now which could be very interesting.

TCM

Why is the competition called 'the champions cup'?

sydthebeat

TCM wrote: »

Why is the competition called 'the champions cup'?

Same reason euro soccer Cup is called the "champions league"

Marketing

QuadaLumpins

Do 1st and 2nd seeds keep home field advantage in the semi's?

And 1 and 2 seeds are currently looking like Racing and Sarries, correct?

Digifriendly

Eod100 wrote: »

Think this is it before matches tomorrow. Saracens should finish 1st tomorrow. Glasgow likely 6th.

1) Racing, 21 points, 62 PD
2) Leinster, 20 points, 98 PD
3) Edinburgh, 19 points, 62 points
4) Saracens, 18 points, 67 PD
5) Munster, 17 points, 64 PD
6) Ulster, 18 points, 2 PD
7) Toulouse, 17 points, 10 PD
8) Montpellier, 16 points, 51, PD
9) Glasgow, 14 points, 38 PD

Why have you put Munster on 17 pts ahead of Ulster who are on 18?

Burkie1203

Digifriendly wrote: »

Why have you put Munster on 17 pts ahead of Ulster who are on 18?

Munster are top of pool. Ulster arent

Synode

QuadaLumpins wrote: »

Do 1st and 2nd seeds keep home field advantage in the semi's?

And 1 and 2 seeds are currently looking like Racing and Sarries, correct?

Yes to both. But the semi final will be in a 'neutral' venue in their home country

Buer

QuadaLumpins wrote: »

Do 1st and 2nd seeds keep home field advantage in the semi's?

And 1 and 2 seeds are currently looking like Racing and Sarries, correct?

If they win, yes.

And correct, Saracens looking likely to be seed 1 and Racing seed 2.

DGRulz

Digifriendly wrote: »

Why have you put Munster on 17 pts ahead of Ulster who are on 18?

Munster are qualifying as group winners. Ulster are currently qualifying as runners up.

dermey97

Did anybody book Newcastle yet??:)

Synode

dermey97 wrote: »

Did anybody book Newcastle yet??:)

Yep I got my tickets at the start of the season. Fingers crossed Leinster get there. I'll probably head over no matter what as have tickets for the wife and kids too so will make a weekend of it.

Eod100

dermey97 wrote: »

Did anybody book Newcastle yet??:)

Flights a while back. No accommodation or tickets yet though!

QuadaLumpins

Synode wrote: »

Yes to both. But the semi final will be in a 'neutral' venue in their home country

So, lets assume that Sarries are no. 1 seed and Racing are no. 2 seed for the sake of argument.

They will have:
1. A home q/f at their home ground, and (assuming they win the q/f)
2. A semi in England (Sarries) and France (Racing) but not at their usual home ground. Sarries could take Twickenham, and Racing could take somewhere else in Paris?

Is that all correct?

alwald

QuadaLumpins wrote: »

So, lets assume that Sarries are no. 1 seed and Racing are no. 2 seed for the sake of argument.

They will have:
1. A home q/f at their home ground, and (assuming they win the q/f)
2. A semi in England (Sarries) and France (Racing) but not at their usual home ground. Sarries could take Twickenham, and Racing could take somewhere else in Paris?

Is that all correct?

Yes for 1 but not for 2 as it depends on who wins the other QF I think - If the home team then yes but if it's the away team then no.

Shefwedfan

Buer wrote: »

If they win, yes.

And correct, Saracens looking likely to be seed 1 and Racing seed 2.

But if they lose what happens then?

Could do with a home qtr and semi againthis year, two good days on the beer

troyzer

alwald wrote: »

QuadaLumpins wrote: »

So, lets assume that Sarries are no. 1 seed and Racing are no. 2 seed for the sake of argument.

They will have:
1. A home q/f at their home ground, and (assuming they win the q/f)
2. A semi in England (Sarries) and France (Racing) but not at their usual home ground. Sarries could take Twickenham, and Racing could take somewhere else in Paris?

Is that all correct?

Yes for 1 but not for 2 as it depends on who wins the other QF I think - If the home team then yes but if it's the away team then no.

Wrong. Those are the old rules.

The seeds carry throughout the playoffs. Semis are played in a neutral ground in the home country of the highest two seeds left in the competition.

This winning away ****e is gone.

Sirius Boner

Zebo not happy with some of the abuse he received last night, suggestions that it may have been ott

Synode

alwald wrote: »

Yes for 1 but not for 2 as it depends on who wins the other QF I think - If the home team then yes but if it's the away team then no.

They scrapped that rule this year. If Seed 1 or 2 win their home QF they're guaranteed a semi final in their home country

Synode

QuadaLumpins wrote: »

So, lets assume that Sarries are no. 1 seed and Racing are no. 2 seed for the sake of argument.

They will have:
1. A home q/f at their home ground, and (assuming they win the q/f)
2. A semi in England (Sarries) and France (Racing) but not at their usual home ground. Sarries could take Twickenham, and Racing could take somewhere else in Paris?

Is that all correct?

Yes, all correct. But it's EPCR who designate where the SF will be played

bennyl10

Synode wrote: »

Yes, all correct. But it's EPCR who designate where the SF will be played

Exactly.
No guaranty racing will be in Paris, as EPCR decide,
Look at last year for example

Synode

Shefwedfan wrote: »

But if they lose what happens then?

Could do with a home qtr and semi againthis year, two good days on the beer

It's looking like the only way Leinster will get a home SF is if Sarries or Racing lose one of their remaining games (Sarries have 2, Racing 1 and I can't see any of them being losses), or if we finish as 3rd seed and whoever finishes 2nd seed gets beaten in their home QF

Burkie1203

Synode wrote: »

It's looking like the only way Leinster will get a home SF is if Sarries or Racing lose one of their remaining games (Sarries have 2, Racing 1 and I can't see any of them being losses), or if we finish as 3rd seed and whoever finishes 2nd seed gets beaten in their home QF

Winners of Seed 1v8 and 2v7 will have home country advantage

Leinsters last hope remains a Lyon win today

Synode

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Winners of Seed 1v8 and 2v7 will have home country advantage

No, they wont. If seeds 1 or 2 lose their home QF the home advantage goes to the next highest seed in that section. From EPCR site

The clubs ranked 1 to 4 will have home advantage for the quarter-finals as follows:
Club 1 v Club 8 (QF1)
Club 4 v Club 5 (QF2)
Club 3 v Club 6 (QF3)
Club 2 v Club 7 (QF4)

The winner of QF1 will play the winner of QF2 in one semi-final, and the winner of QF3 will play the winner of QF4 in the other semi-final as follows:

Semi-final 1: winner QF1 v winner QF2
Semi-final 2: winner QF3 v winner QF4

The semi-final matches will be played at venues designated by EPCR, and the highest-ranked clubs from the pool stage will have home country advantage in their respective semi-final matches:

(a) For Semi-final 1

If the clubs ranked 1 and 4 win their QFs, the club ranked 1 will have home country

If the clubs ranked 1 and 5 win their QFs, the club ranked 1 will have home country advantage

If the clubs ranked 8 and 4 win their QFs, the club ranked 4 will have home country advantage

If the clubs ranked 8 and 5 win their QFs, the club ranked 5 will have home country advantage

(b) For Semi-final 2

If the clubs ranked 3 and 2 win their QFs, the club ranked 2 will have home country advantage

If the clubs ranked 3 and 7 win their QFs, the club ranked 3 will have home country advantage

If the clubs ranked 6 and 2 win their QFs, the club ranked 2 will have home country advantage

If the clubs ranked 6 and 7 win their QFs, the club ranked 6 will have home country advantage

Buer

If Leinster get a BP win against Wasps and Racing beat the Scarlets without one, Leinster finish ahead of Racing.

It won't happen as Racing will coast to a BP but just highlighting they don't need to lose.

Burkie1203

Synode wrote: »

No, they wont. If seeds 1 or 2 lose their home QF the home advantage goes to the next highest seed in that section. From EPCR site

Fair enough. Thought they had just done away with everything. Can't see Racing/Saracens losing to Toulouse/Glasgow though.

Buer

Buer wrote: »

If Leinster get a BP win against Wasps and Racing beat the Scarlets without one, Leinster finish ahead of Racing.

It won't happen as Racing will coast to a BP but just highlighting they don't need to lose.

Haven't had a chance to watch the Ulster game but was it a case of Racing being satisfied with a minimum of 2 points knowing they'll get 5 next week at home?

twinytwo

Eod100 wrote: »

Think this is it before matches tomorrow. Saracens should finish 1st tomorrow. Glasgow likely 6th.

1) Racing, 21 points, 62 PD
2) Leinster, 20 points, 98 PD
3) Edinburgh, 19 points, 62 points
4) Saracens, 18 points, 67 PD
5) Munster, 17 points, 64 PD
6) Ulster, 18 points, 2 PD
7) Toulouse, 17 points, 10 PD
8) Montpellier, 16 points, 51, PD
9) Glasgow, 14 points, 38 PD

I knew playing like a wet bag against castre would cost us.. obviously things will change next week.. but an away qf to sarries and a potential semi against leinster is about as bad a run as ypu cant get

Buer

Deleted User wrote: »

Buer wrote: »

If Leinster get a BP win against Wasps and Racing beat the Scarlets without one, Leinster finish ahead of Racing.

It won't happen as Racing will coast to a BP but just highlighting they don't need to lose.

Haven't had a chance to watch the Ulster game but was it a case of Racing being satisfied with a minimum of 2 points knowing they'll get 5 next week at home?

Not really. They fought hard to get back into it and were pushing to win it. Their error count was high but Ulster never gave up despite being overpowered in the final quarter. If Ulster had gone to the corner rather than the sticks in the 79th minute, they may have only had one BP.

Cookiemunster

twinytwo wrote: »

I knew playing like a wet bag against castre would cost us.. obviously things will change next week.. but an away qf to sarries and a potential semi against leinster is about as bad a run as ypu cant get

It won't be Sarries. They have to play today and be in the top two seeds. If Munster finish as 5th seeds the likely destination is Edinburgh.

ScrubsfanChris

Cookiemunster wrote: »

It won't be Sarries. They have to play today and be in the top two seeds. If Munster finish as 5th seeds the likely destination is Edinburgh.

You're right. An away quarter-final in Murrayfield is probably the most (preferable) likely option.
Although Montpelier head to Edinburgh still with a chance to win that group. So a Munster home quarter against the french side is still on the cards.

Buer

If Edinburgh win next week, I'd say Cockerill would be happy to have the QF the following week. They're in incredible form. The 6N is coming at the worst time for them.

6 wins on the trot including away to Newcastle, the double over Glasgow and in Toulon.

Eod100

twinytwo wrote: »

I knew playing like a wet bag against castre would cost us.. obviously things will change next week.. but an away qf to sarries and a potential semi against leinster is about as bad a run as ypu cant get

Looks like it will be just a point that will cost us a home qf, but will likely be away to Edinburgh. Not getting a tbp at home to Gloucester and referee decisions in Castres match cost us. Montpellier play Edinburgh so win for them would get us home qf

Kevski

Great try from Nowell there. I feel like Castres could be in for a tough afternoon.

sydthebeat

Instant response from castres

Heymans

Good try from Paris there. My money's on Castres

Boscoirl

I have an irrational dislike of Nowell, everything about him annoys me

Easy try for Castres

awec

Some offload there by Chiefs

troyzer

Exeter look like they'll come away with a TBP win.

Next week in Thomond will be juicy. Exeter will have everything to play for.

ScrubsfanChris

Castres deciding tackling is optional

ScrubsfanChris

Eod100 wrote: »

Looks like it will be just a point that will cost us a home qf, but will likely be away to Edinburgh. Not getting a tbp at home to Gloucester and referee decisions in Castres match cost us. Montpellier play Edinburgh so win for them would get us home qf

Think you mean Castres

Squidgy Black

Castres are brutal

Sirius Boner

The no. 9 threw himself a bit theatrically to the ground there

troyzer

Exeter have 450 metres in the first half.

That's just ****ing ridiculous.

eagle eye

Referee is awful in the Exeter vs Castres game. He penalised Exeter for second man in and then penalised Exeter for holding on when it was second man in for Castres. Exeter nearly had the ball two metres out only for Castres to seal off and then he penalised Exeter for something when they should have been getting a penalty.
I realise I sound like a biased Exeter fan here, I'm not an Exeter fan, it's just that those ones are clearest in my memory. He hasn't been one-sided, just awful.

thomond2006

Great play from Henry Slade sets up the bonus point try. All to play for in Thomond next weekend.

errlloyd

There will be an amazing highlight reel to this weekend. Some of the tries have been out of this world.

thomond2006

Castres almost immediately reply with a try and a class one it was.