2018-2019 Champions Cup

Eod100

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Thursday apparently

Yeah said by end of week. So guess Thursday or Friday. Mentioned venues too but thought they're a done deal? Presume Leinster Ulster would be Aviva not RDS?

When was the last time Leinster and Ulster met in Europe...?

...anyone?

bilston

Eod100 wrote: »

Yeah said by end of week. So guess Thursday or Friday. Mentioned venues too but thought they're a done deal? Presume Leinster Ulster would be Aviva not RDS?

Hard to imagine Leinster v Ulster won't be at the Aviva.

How many tickets do the away team get? 25%?

bilston

[Deleted User] wrote: »

When was the last time Leinster and Ulster met in Europe...?

...anyone?

We played "in" Europe about 2 weeks ago

Burkie1203

[Deleted User] wrote: »

When was the last time Leinster and Ulster met in Europe...?

...anyone?

2012 final?

swiwi_

Burkie1203 wrote: »

2012 final?

Whoosh.

awec

bilston wrote: »

Hard to imagine Leinster v Ulster won't be at the Aviva.

How many tickets do the away team get? 25%?

Ulster have already emailed season ticket holders to say it's in Lansdowne Road and we have 25% allocation.

Exclamation Marc

Eod100 wrote: »

Yeah said by end of week. So guess Thursday or Friday. Mentioned venues too but thought they're a done deal? Presume Leinster Ulster would be Aviva not RDS?

Yep, the Leinster Supporters Club have confirmed it's in the Aviva.

https://twitter.com/OLSCRugby/status/1087034450121240581?s=19

awec

I would guess that the Racing v Toulouse game will be the late Sunday game.

Which leaves Leinster v Ulster, Edinburgh v Munster and Saracens v Glasgow.

I think Leinster v Ulster will get the prime-time Saturday evening slot.

Eod100

awec wrote: »

I would guess that the Racing v Toulouse game will be the late Sunday game.

Which leaves Leinster v Ulster, Edinburgh v Munster and Saracens v Glasgow.

I think Leinster v Ulster will get the prime-time Saturday evening slot.

Celtic Rangers the Sunday at 12. Dunno would that make a difference for Glasgow or Edinburgh match. Hearts also playing Saturday afternoon at 3 a mile from Murrayfield.

Thanos

awec wrote: »

I would guess that the Racing v Toulouse game will be the late Sunday game.

Which leaves Leinster v Ulster, Edinburgh v Munster and Saracens v Glasgow.

I think Leinster v Ulster will get the prime-time Saturday evening slot.

Maybe..... although I think the organisers may want to give that to Saracens.

awec

So long as we're on the Saturday and not the Friday or Sunday I'm happy.

irishbucsfan

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

Yep, the Leinster Supporters Club have confirmed it's in the Aviva.

https://twitter.com/OLSCRugby/status/1087034450121240581?s=19

Great to have it in a neutral venue. Very fair to Ulster. God, we’re so sound.

munsterlegend

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Great to have it in a neutral venue. Very fair to Ulster. God, we’re so sound.

Wouldn’t matter where it was, Leinster will beat them pulling up.

sydthebeat

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Great to have it in a neutral venue. Very fair to Ulster. God, we’re so sound.

We gave them the RDS one year as well.....

Stout Warrior

Glasgow will fancy their chances against Saracens in alliance. The game this weekend was very close for 65 mins and could have gone either way. Sarries cleaned them out on poaches at the breakdown that's the first work on for Glasgow but quite looking forward to the tie again

bilston

Stout Warrior wrote: »

Glasgow will fancy their chances against Saracens in alliance. The game this weekend was very close for 65 mins and could have gone either way. Sarries cleaned them out on poaches at the breakdown that's the first work on for Glasgow but quite looking forward to the tie again

Saracens won that pretty comfortably...and that was without Farrell.

I think Saracens will win with something to spare. It could be an entertaining game though

Eod100

Munster playing away the weekend of Brexit could be interesting..!

munsterlegend

Stout Warrior wrote: »

Glasgow will fancy their chances against Saracens in alliance. The game this weekend was very close for 65 mins and could have gone either way. Sarries cleaned them out on poaches at the breakdown that's the first work on for Glasgow but quite looking forward to the tie again

Watched the game and always felt Saracens were in second gear even without Farrell. Now if Itoje got injured would give Glasgow a 20% chance but Saracens much too good to lose at home.

Stout Warrior

bilston wrote: »

Saracens won that pretty comfortably...and that was without Farrell.

I think Saracens will win with something to spare. It could be an entertaining game though

What's your thoughts on Ulster chances against Leinster?

munsterlegend

Eod100 wrote: »

Munster playing away the weekend of Brexit could be interesting..!

Well the Scots aren’t exactly brexiteers. Would be different if we were playing bath or harlequins where might be a Brexit bite to it!

Eod100

munsterlegend wrote: »

Well the Scots aren’t exactly brexiteers. Would be different if we were playing bath or harlequins where might be a Brexit bite to it!

Unless they have declared independence by then, it's still the UK though! :P

P_1

Eod100 wrote: »

Munster playing away the weekend of Brexit could be interesting..!

Wonder if they'll have that on the Friday to mitigate any potential travel issues that may arise out of the you know what hitting the fan?

Ditto with Connacht off to Manchester to play Sale

Eod100

P_1 wrote: »

Wonder if they'll have that on the Friday to mitigate any potential travel issues that may arise out of the you know what hitting the fan?

Ditto with Connacht off to Manchester to play Sale

I think Friday is the official date of it so was thinking matches might be the Saturday?

Burkie1203

Eod100 wrote: »

I think Friday is the official date of it so was thinking matches might be the Saturday?

BT will want one game Friday, Two Saturday (3 and 5.30) and one on Sunday

Eod100

Burkie1203 wrote: »

BT will want one game Friday, Two Saturday (3 and 5.30) and one on Sunday

Would have thought double-headers Sat and Sun. Not sure beyond last season has Friday night qf happened often?

The Lost Sheep

Eod100 wrote: »

Would have thought double-headers Sat and Sun. Not sure beyond last season has Friday night qf happened often?

Has happened a bit. check EPRC website to be sure?

Eod100

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Has happened a bit. check EPRC website to be sure?

Fixtures will be out Friday so couldn't be bothered tbh. Would think having 1 broadcaster would make it more likely that it will be 2 days. Don't see why they would fragment coverage but will find out end of week.

Dave_The_Sheep

Hard to see Saracens not being in the final at this stage. They can take Glasgow, Edinburgh and Munster, even if not by a whole lot.

Of the other side of the draw, I think Leinster or maybe Toulouse have the style of play to beat Saracens in a final, not that they'll necessarily get there. Ulster or Racing may win their QFs, and a resulting SF, but I can't see them winning a final against Sarries.

(And isn't that what it's all about, denying Sarries a European Cup win. /s in case that's required)

munsterlegend

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Hard to see Saracens not being in the final at this stage. They can take Glasgow, Edinburgh and Munster, even if not by a whole lot.

Of the other side of the draw, I think Leinster or maybe Toulouse have the style of play to beat Saracens in a final, not that they'll necessarily get there. Ulster or Racing may win their QFs, and a resulting SF, but I can't see them winning a final against Sarries.

(And isn't that what it's all about, denying Sarries a European Cup win. /s in case that's required)

Saracens are not unbeatable and have a scrum that can be got at. They have been poor enough in the premiership this year and Exeter gave them a big trimming recently. I think Munster have a good chance of making the final.

Dave_The_Sheep

They're not unbeatable. No one is.

They do have a mentality however - on top of their obvious quality - that makes them very hard to beat. They do whatever they need to do. They may not always win by 30 points, but they usually do what's required to win. Munster do it as well, to a degree, but Munster (for the moment at least) are far more limited than Sarries overall. Sarries can shut down Munster's physical game well enough, and there's little outside that that makes me think Munster can break down the Saracens defence. On the topic of Exeter, Exeter in the Prem and Exeter in Europe are two very different kettles of fish. Joke from the Subreddit, credit /u/saviouroftheweak:


Munster are undoubtedly on an upward trajectory, and can absolutely overturn Saracens on their day if Saracens aren't 100% and Munster are, but 8 games out of 10, Sarries win.

Eod100

munsterlegend wrote: »

Saracens are not unbeatable and have a scrum that can be got at. They have been poor enough in the premiership this year and Exeter gave them a big trimming recently. I think Munster have a good chance of making the final.

Have to beat Edinburgh away first, but after that who knows?

salmocab

Breakdown of teams is surprising, 5 pro 14,2 Top14 and 1 English.

Both Scots getting through is great for them but the Welsh seem to be just stagnant for whatever reason.

Saracens likely to have a big say but the English have done very poorly overall.

bilston

Stout Warrior wrote: »

What's your thoughts on Ulster chances against Leinster?

I'm not confident!

But the one thing I would say is that it has been a while since we have had two full strength sides go head to head. You never know, but I'm not even sure I'd give us a 10% chance of winning. But it is a step forward for us just to be there.

It should be a good day out though.

molloyjh

bilston wrote: »

I'm not confident!

But the one thing I would say is that it has been a while since we have had two full strength sides go head to head. You never know, but I'm not even sure I'd give us a 10% chance of winning. But it is a step forward for us just to be there.

It should be a good day out though.

I’ve already given herself warning that I’ll be going out for pints after that one. Looking forward to it! Should we have a meet up of some sort?

jacothelad

P_1 wrote: »

Wonder if they'll have that on the Friday to mitigate any potential travel issues that may arise out of the you know what hitting the fan?

There won't be any problems ....at least initially.

bilston

molloyjh wrote: »

I’ve already given herself warning that I’ll be going out for pints after that one. Looking forward to it! Should we have a meet up of some sort?

That could be a plan. It would be good to see if the picture in my head of you guys matches the reality!!

Need to secure tickets first!

mystic86

If Munster and Saracens qualify for the semi final Saracens will have home country advantage, but where would that game be held?

tanko

mystic86 wrote: »

If Munster and Saracens qualify for the semi final Saracens will have home country advantage, but where would that game be held?

Ricoh arena in Coventry??

irishbucsfan

mystic86 wrote: »

If Munster and Saracens qualify for the semi final Saracens will have home country advantage, but where would that game be held?

Twickenham probably, if they think they can sell it out

Kevski

mystic86 wrote: »

If Munster and Saracens qualify for the semi final Saracens will have home country advantage, but where would that game be held?

Saracens played their home Semi Final in the Madejski Stadium in Reading in 2016. Reading don’t have a home game on the weekend of the SF this year so it could be there again.

Squidgy Black

mystic86 wrote: »

If Munster and Saracens qualify for the semi final Saracens will have home country advantage, but where would that game be held?

They played the 2016 semi in the Madejski in Reading.

PTH2009

Christ can picture a zebo masterclass beating Munster in the final and it will be kind of bittersweet for him to an extent

Tbf lots of Rugby too be played and Edinburgh could easily beat Munster in the QF and Saracens could have a huge say in things still, think they will have too much for Glasgow again . On the other side of the draw reigning champs Leinster, Racing, Ulster and Toulouse are well capable of beating each other on there day

Going too be great and hopefully it's after another Irish 6Ns win

Eod100

mystic86 wrote: »

If Munster and Saracens qualify for the semi final Saracens will have home country advantage, but where would that game be held?

Good q. Usually find out officially just before qfs I think. Could they opt for a venue in London used by other teams say?

Larbre34

Its the weekend of Brexit lads, 2 out of 4 matches might not even happen.

troyzer

There is very little chance Brexit happens that weekend. It'll probably delayed until May at least, after the tournament.

I think we can start to seriously talk about an all Ireland final. Red vs Blue.

Saracens are good but ultimately can anyone say they've really been tested this year? They've lost against the only good teams they've played against in the Premiership. I think Munster can beat them.

Aidric

Quint2010 wrote: »

BT have nine channels. There's bound to be one dead rubber? Think it's unfair on some teams.

Do Channel 4 have rights beyond the group stages? Their coverage has been excellent so far.

Synode

A lot of people seriously under estimating Edinburgh. I'd say the chances of a Leinster Munster final are very very small

stephen_n

Larbre34 wrote: »

Its the weekend of Brexit lads, 2 out of 4 matches might not even happen.

Edinburgh v Munster is the only one that could be affected by flights.

Former Former

Larbre34 wrote: »

Its the weekend of Brexit lads, 2 out of 4 matches might not even happen.

??

Why not?