Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice

sweetie

Deleted User wrote: »

Just got back to ashina castle and got to the top. Got killed by the boss after siding with Kuro. Is there much more to go after this fight? I'm enjoying it but want to just get it over with now. Backlog is building up.

One new area and a few bosses and minibosses.

K.O.Kiki

I'm not ashamed to say: I'm going to finish my first playthrough with cheats.
Losing half your sen/EXP on death is interesting. Losing half again... and again... and again, with no way to get it back, not so much.

I have however found an easy EXP farming spot.

After 2nd Guardian Ape fight in Ashina Depths, head forward until you reach the Hidden Forest Idol.
Turn back and you can find 2x Apparition Nightjar Ninja (1 of which can be backstabbed) - easy 1240XP in 30 seconds.

K.O.Kiki

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

I'm not ashamed to say: I'm going to finish my first playthrough with cheats.
Losing half your sen/EXP on death is interesting. Losing half again... and again... and again, with no way to get it back, not so much.

I have however found an easy EXP farming spot.

After 2nd Guardian Ape fight in Ashina Depths, head forward until you reach the Hidden Forest Idol.
Turn back and you can find 2x Apparition Nightjar Ninja (1 of which can be backstabbed) - easy 1240XP in 30 seconds.

The gun fort is good as well for sen and xp.

Rob2D

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

I'm not ashamed to say: I'm going to finish my first playthrough with cheats.
Losing half your sen/EXP on death is interesting. Losing half again... and again... and again, with no way to get it back, not so much.

Thing is you don't REALLY need any of it. Vitality and power are tied to defeating bosses. I ended up spending most of my saved money on items I never used. And most of the skills are just fluff. Only the passive ones are really worth it.

Losing all your money/XP here doesn't impact you nearly as hard as it did in previous games. As long as you're learning and beating bosses; that's all there is to it.

beans

So I'm 18% into the game, since I hardly ever get to play, but had an experience yesterday that pretty much sums-up why I enjoy FromSoft games.

Reached Lady Butterfly, and got murdered. Next day, got her to her second phase, used all my seeds and got murdered. Next day, figured out how to get around her tricks, by now I'm getting her to second phase without taking damage. Then yesterday, I killed her entirely without having to use a heal.

The learning, improving, and seeing that realised in progress is so god-damn satisfying.

Doctor Nick

I'm already in

Mibu Village

on NG+. Flying through it. Posture broke

both phases of Guardian Ape.

The

ape duo fight was tougher this time around, not sure if minor apes posture was adjusted in latest patch or it's just that I'm in NG+.

Found probably the best NPC in any From game ever that I completely missed first time around. The dude who

wants to be a basket, in a shack in Mibu Village with a basket on his head.

. Couldn't stop laughing at him.

Decided not to stealth kill first marker on the mini bosses with exceptions for ones that I don't like fighting due to bullish!t hit boxes, tracking or crap camera (ogre, swamp snake eyes and Lone shadow swordsman in the well). It's almost decision time then it'll be all new content for me again.

I love this game

Doctor Nick

Up to new content for me now. Great Shinobi is a great fight. First one this play through that's taking me a good few attempts. The last fight I had I managed to get him to second phase with 8 of my 9 Gourds. Still killed me with 7 Gourds left. Think Fire Isshin is the harder fight.

Mr.Fantastic

All I can say is the

Guardian Ape stage 2

is wrecking me.

Only ever got him down to second half health, also have the

Mortal blade

doesn't seem to be doing much ? Someone said the spear can be used at this stage

K.O.Kiki

Mr.Fantastic wrote: »

All I can say is the

Guardian Ape stage 2

is wrecking me.

Only ever got him down to second half health, also have the

Mortal blade

doesn't seem to be doing much ? Someone said the spear can be used at this stage

Focus on simply blocking/deflecting - he does a really slow overhead thrust that you parry & makes him stumble. Take this time to use Ichimonji (Double) to recover posture & deal damage.
In this stage IIRC you only need to worry about a slow low swipe you jump over - everything else can be parried while waiting for that overhead.

Mr.Fantastic

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Focus on simply blocking/deflecting - he does a really slow overhead thrust that you parry & makes him stumble. Take this time to use Ichimonji (Double) to recover posture & deal damage.
In this stage IIRC you only need to worry about a slow low swipe you jump over - everything else can be parried while waiting for that overhead.

Yeah I noticed that overhead deflect stuns him, the scream attack got me a few times though.

Doctor Nick

Mr.Fantastic wrote: »

Yeah I noticed that overhead deflect stuns him, the scream attack got me a few times though.

It's when he's stunned you use the spear on him where his head was. R2 and R2, don't hold. Deals vitality and huge posture damage to him.

recyclops

i just ran around until he did his weird worm type move, then jumped over him hit him a few times with nightjar and then ran away before he screamed.

did this over and over and he was dead without a spot of damage to myself

sweetie

recyclops wrote: »

i just ran around until he did his weird worm type move, then jumped over him hit him a few times with nightjar and then ran away before he screamed.

did this over and over and he was dead without a spot of damage to myself

yep, slow and steady wins the race!

K.O.Kiki

Mr.Fantastic wrote: »

Yeah I noticed that overhead deflect stuns him, the scream attack got me a few times though.

Forgot about the scream attack, easier to just leg it once you see the Red prompt so.
You should probably have Pacifying Agents in your inventory that can lower Terror buildup.

I think I mentioned before you can literally spam the block button in phase two.

Stay away from him until he does his worm move for a few free hits and get away again. You want him to come at you with the sword so when he does spam the block button after 2 or 3 deflects he'll do the over head one which is really long wind up, easy to spot and time a deflect then R2 twice with the spear and leg it as he'll do his scream nearly every time after that. Repeat 2 or 3 times I think it takes.

When you can relax and get comfortable with him getting in your face and deflecting you do it easily and have likely taken zero damage and be well chuffed with your kill.

K.O.Kiki

Then later

fight Guardian Ape AGAIN,

whereupon

he will summon a 2nd ape because FÚCK YOU, THIS IS SEKIRO

:pac:

K.O.Kiki

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Then later

fight Guardian Ape AGAIN,

whereupon

he will summon a 2nd ape because FÚCK YOU, THIS IS SEKIRO

:pac:

I thought it was easier the second time round. Destroyed them after dying once!

Doctor Nick

The

Great Shinobi Owl

is probably my favourite so far even though I can't seem to get a handle on phase 2 at all. My jaw dropped when he

mikiri'd me, flipped me over and stabbed me in the back wiping out my entire health bar in the process

. Had to laugh.

I don't understand the tooth. I watched a video on you tube that says it can give you free resurrections but when I used it and resurrected it used up one of my rezzy's. Can anyone explain it?

nix

Doctor Nick wrote: »

I don't understand the tooth. I watched a video on you tube that says it can give you free resurrections but when I used it and resurrected it used up one of my rezzy's. Can anyone explain it?

You can only rez once during a fight/phase, if you use the tooth, you can revive without blocking out a rez. So if you have 3 rez circles you can potentially rez 3 times in a fight/phase.. its pretty meh, might be useful if you run out of healing items/gords

Mr.Fantastic

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I think I mentioned before you can literally spam the block button in phase two.

Stay away from him until he does his worm move for a few free hits and get away again. You want him to come at you with the sword so when he does spam the block button after 2 or 3 deflects he'll do the over head one which is really long wind up, easy to spot and time a deflect then R2 twice with the spear and leg it as he'll do his scream nearly every time after that. Repeat 2 or 3 times I think it takes.

When you can relax and get comfortable with him getting in your face and deflecting you do it easily and have likely taken zero damage and be well chuffed with your kill.

Got him tonight , the spear really helped. Just cleared o rin now I say I am close to the end

Defeated the owl and reached cthe Fountainhead Palace. Got thoroughly spanked by the corrupted monk. Barely got through the first health bar and I've run out of snap seeds and spirit emblems. Can't seem to get a handle on her attack pattern. Every time I think I have an opening she destroys me with a counter attack.

Doctor Nick

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Defeated the owl and reached cthe Fountainhead Palace. Got thoroughly spanked by the corrupted monk. Barely got through the first health bar and I've run out of snap seeds and spirit emblems. Can't seem to get a handle on her attack pattern. Every time I think I have an opening she destroys me with a counter attack.

Do snap seeds work on true monk? I almost had owl but got caught in smoke and died. Then struggled through phase 1 even though I pretty much sailed through that before once I learned the rhythm of the fight. Break was needed I think.

sticker

So after my intention some weeks ago to drop the game through fatigue, I returned and completed the game. Great sence of achievement.

There are some good 'somewhat ranged' strategies to his demise that might assist those having issues...

I've no interest in NG+ - I've completed the game, why plod through it again for some missed NPC activity?! If there were new areas, sure, but a repeat of what I've just done does not appeal to me!

On to Divison 2!

sweetie

Doctor Nick wrote: »

Do snap seeds work on true monk? I almost had owl but got caught in smoke and died. Then struggled through phase 1 even though I pretty much sailed through that before once I learned the rhythm of the fight. Break was needed I think.

Not sure but mortal blade or divine grass definitely do.

mirrormatrix

Doctor Nick wrote: »

Do snap seeds work on true monk? I almost had owl but got caught in smoke and died. Then struggled through phase 1 even though I pretty much sailed through that before once I learned the rhythm of the fight. Break was needed I think.

Nope. Snap seeds only work on illusions. The firecrackers work brilliantly though. If you use them on phase 2 you can pretty much stun kill her, then phase 3 is pretty easy - she just keeps using terror attacks which are straightforward to avoid.

Doctor Nick

Vaati has started his lore vids.

Mr.Fantastic

Doctor Nick wrote: »

Vaati has started his lore vids.

Really enjoy them, the way he digs deep into the background stories is great.

TitianGerm

Mr.Fantastic wrote: »

Really enjoy them, the way he digs deep into the background stories is great.

Vaati is brilliant. My copy of the Future Press guide arrived this week as well. I always pick up their hardback guides for From games.

YouSavedMyLife

Watched his lore vid. Super excited for DLC

The corrupted monk is wrecking my head. I can get to the third phase without too much damage now, but I can't seem to get a rhythm going. Do you go for posture damage or vitality?