Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice

Retr0gamer

brianregan09 wrote: »

Were the Tenchu games that difficult ? I know I finished them all but I can't remember how difficult they were I used to use a hit and rooftop strategy , but yeah I'm really edging towards wanting this

Yeah they were really bloody tough.

Mr Crispy

Lot's of "let's play" videos hitting YouTube. Is that usual... big reviewers uploading a let's play before they were allowed put up the official review? Anyway, just an FYI for those wanting to go in blind. I'd say there'll be spoilers doing the rounds from here on out.

TitianGerm

Darch Nemesis wrote: »

Lot's of "let's play" videos hitting YouTube. Is that usual... big reviewers uploading a let's play before they were allowed put up the official review? Anyway, just an FYI for those wanting to go in blind. I'd say there'll be spoilers doing the rounds from here on out.

I think Vaati does one for every new souls game. I assume the likes of him and Cowboy get copies from From though.

2smiggy

Just before this is released, twitch streamer 'the happy hobb' passed all 5 souls games without taking damage (other than fall damage, some poison damage), one after the other. Finished off with demons souls and dark souls 3 late last night/this morning. He does seem to be a bit of an ass, but quite the achievement

Vicxas

brianregan09 wrote: »

Were the Tenchu games that difficult ? I know I finished them all but I can't remember how difficult they were I used to use a hit and rooftop strategy , but yeah I'm really edging towards wanting this

I remember Tenchu being balls tough, same with Ninja Gaiden.

Couldnt get passed the first boss when i was younger.

TitianGerm

Vicxas wrote: »

I remember Tenchu being balls tough, same with Ninja Gaiden.

Couldnt get passed the first boss when i was younger.

Ninja Garden was a brilliant game. I cleared the ones on the 360 on the hardest difficulty. Some of my favorite games ever.

Retr0gamer

Vicxas wrote: »

I remember Tenchu being balls tough, same with Ninja Gaiden.

Couldnt get passed the first boss when i was younger.

That first boss is so easy... once you know what to do

Got stuck for ages but it's a real baptism of fire. You can't just button mash, you have to know when to dodge out of a combo. It's funny going back to that boss in hard mode after you finished the game and it's so simple, whereas at the start it's infuriating!

Vicxas

Retr0gamer wrote: »

That first boss is so easy... once you know what to do

Got stuck for ages but it's a real baptism of fire. You can't just button mash, you have to know when to dodge out of a combo. It's funny going back to that boss in hard mode after you finished the game and it's so simple, whereas at the start it's infuriating!

I remember it so clearly, he would just keep smashing you so me in my infinite youthful wisdom thought it was a DPS race.


Oh how wrong i was.

Great game afterwards.

Retr0gamer

The Black edition is pretty much my favourite Character action game ever.

Xenji

Unsurprisingly glowing reviews so far.

Vicxas

The Devs seem to have nailed boss fights as they didnt have to worry about Multiplayer cheesing.

skerry

Was gonna pick up Nioh Complete edition in the PS sale but I'm thinking that 20 quid could be better spent putting it towards Sekiro instead. IGN gave it 9.5, not that that means much.

Vicxas

skerry wrote: »

Was gonna pick up Nioh Complete edition in the PS sale but I'm thinking that 20 quid could be better spent putting it towards Sekiro instead. IGN gave it 9.5, not that that means much.

Nioh is fantastic too. Defintely play it after Sekiro

heebusjeebus

skerry wrote: »

Was gonna pick up Nioh Complete edition in the PS sale but I'm thinking that 20 quid could be better spent putting it towards Sekiro instead. IGN gave it 9.5, not that that means much.

Gamespot & Gameinformer have given it 9/10.
Eurogamer & Polygon have yet to finish it but their initial review is positive.

sweetie

Anyone preorder on psn able to play this yet? My cousin in the UK was able to at 12pm.

Vicxas

sweetie wrote: »

Anyone preorder on psn able to play this yet? My cousin in the UK was able to at 12pm.

My console still shows as 8 hours and change left

bigphil2

sweetie wrote: »

Anyone preorder on psn able to play this yet? My cousin in the UK was able to at 12pm.

Did he buy it on the AUS/NZ store?

brianregan09

Where will be the cheapest to pick this up argos I'm guesssing

sweetie

bigphil2 wrote:

Did he buy it on the AUS/NZ store?

Ah he got it from simply games, he meant downloading the game to PS4!

Retr0gamer

So what time does this go live on Steam? Just wondering if I'll get any sleep before work tonight.

Retr0gamer

Looks like 4pm tomorrow.... but I've been stung before and have had to wait until 3am the following day for the likes of Ace combat 7 to unlock.

Retr0gamer

Retr0gamer wrote: »

So what time does this go live on Steam? Just wondering if I'll get any sleep before work tonight.

No midnight release on Steam so around 5pm tomorrow I think. Japan vpn lets you play now though

TheRepentent

why doesn't it unlock at midnight on Steam ?

JimBurnley

brianregan09 wrote: »

Where will be the cheapest to pick this up argos I'm guesssing

GameStop have it at 20quid plus a trade-in from their list if you pre-order. Goes up to 30 quid after release

Retr0gamer

TheRepentent wrote: »

why doesn't it unlock at midnight on Steam ?

Because of the Americans. Can't have us playing the game before them :rolleyes:

Bastards.

TheRepentent

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Because of the Americans. Can't have us playing the game before them :rolleyes:

Bastards.

Feck that

TheRepentent

TheRepentent wrote: »

why doesn't it unlock at midnight on Steam ?

Steam is designed in such a way that games need to be unlocked manually so generally, once a day all the days releases are unlocked together.
Big game releases normally get a midnight release because the publisher asks for it/pays for it. Why Activision didn't do this is strange, seeing as Fromsoftware did it for the Asian market and Namco Bandai did it for DS3

YouSavedMyLife

Wasn't going to buy because its 22 hours from now instead of midnight release. But i moved to Japan instead and now i can play! Yay!

TitianGerm

https://youtu.be/vmVM1LsbHvA

Digital Foundry tech analysis breakdown is up.

TheRepentent

Is it only a 16 gig download on PS4 ? Seems a bit small........

TheRepentent

TheRepentent wrote: »

Is it only a 16 gig download on PS4 ? Seems a bit small........

Yeah that's about right. It's 15gb on pc

Retr0gamer

Performance on console as bad as Bloodborne. Thank god im on pc. Bloodborne really suffered because of it.

petes

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Performance on console as bad as Bloodborne. Thank god im on pc. Bloodborne really suffered because of it.

Source for that? I never had an issue with Bloodborne!

TitianGerm

petes wrote: »

Source for that? I never had an issue with Bloodborne!

30 fps and frame pacing issues. Once I got used to it it didn't bother me.

It's in the Digital Foundry analysis I posted.

I think it's a quite a stretch to call Bloodbornes performance bad. 30 FPS is grand for a souls-like and outside of Byrgenwerth the game runs fine.
No point in needlessly turning people off the console version by exaggerating the performance

petes

TitianGerm wrote: »

30 fps and frame pacing issues. Once I got used to it it didn't bother me.

It's in the Digital Foundry analysis I posted.

Oh, had a look thanks.

Anyone actually notice any of this or is it delving too much.

TitianGerm

Cake of Tremendous Power wrote: »

I think it's a quite a stretch to call Bloodbornes performance bad. 30 FPS is grand for a souls-like and outside of Byrgenwerth the game runs fine.
No point in needlessly turning people off the console version by exaggerating the performance

It wasn't the 30fps that was the problem, it was the frame pacing. You would see it as a kind of stutter on screen.

TitianGerm

petes wrote: »

Oh, had a look thanks.

Anyone actually notice any of this or is it delving too much.

You'll notice it but it won't ruin the game on you.

TitianGerm

TitianGerm wrote: »

It wasn't the 30fps that was the problem, it was the frame pacing. You would see it as a kind of stutter on screen.

I must fire up the PS4 again and look, can't say I've ever noticed it and I've done two playthroughs

Retr0gamer

Cake of Tremendous Power wrote: »

I think it's a quite a stretch to call Bloodbornes performance bad. 30 FPS is grand for a souls-like and outside of Byrgenwerth the game runs fine.
No point in needlessly turning people off the console version by exaggerating the performance

It actually was that bad for me. I'd just started Dark Souls 2 Scholar of the First Sin on PC which was out about the same time and the performance was so bad in bloodborne that I dropped the game and played Dark souls 2 for the third time.

It's not something that will ruin the game but it is a miserable experience in comparison to 60 fps. 30 fps steady I can deal with ok but it's the frame pacing that makes everything so much worse.

petes

Have to say, unless you're looking for it you won't find it.

Played all souls games and Bloodborne for that many hours and hadn't noticed.

I say that probably as a casual gamer but are you a casual gamer putting that much time in to souls

Mostly, I play through a game and will do on above average difficulty but have been playing for years

petes

Retr0gamer wrote: »

It actually was that bad for me. I'd just started Dark Souls 2 Scholar of the First Sin on PC which was out about the same time and the performance was so bad in bloodborne that I dropped the game and played Dark souls 2 for the third time.

It's not something that will ruin the game but it is a miserable experience in comparison to 60 fps. 30 fps steady I can deal with ok but it's the frame pacing that makes everything so much worse.

Don't want think about it to be honest. Sure, throughout my souls experience ive definitely come across some issues but I just kept going and let the 'You died' message annoy me more, only because I did something stupid!

Retr0gamer

petes wrote: »

Have to say, unless you're looking for it you won't find it.

Played all souls games and Bloodborne for that many hours and hadn't noticed.

I say that probably as a casual gamer but are you a casual gamer putting that much time in to souls

Mostly, I play through a game and will do on above average difficulty but have been playing for years

Well if you've not experienced it then how can you know what you are missing? However that's not really an excuse for it.

If you want to know the difference just play Nioh on performance mode and imagine what it could be like. After 5 games From still haven't got it right yet Nioh offers a performance mode with stable 60 FPS.

Retr0gamer

Cake of Tremendous Power wrote: »

I must fire up the PS4 again and look, can't say I've ever noticed it and I've done two playthroughs

Basically you've got a 30 FPS game that feels like a 20 FPS game due to judder of frame pacing issues. Just compare it to Nioh, Resi 2, DMC5 or a Platinum game.

TitianGerm

Cake of Tremendous Power wrote: »

I must fire up the PS4 again and look, can't say I've ever noticed it and I've done two playthroughs

I'd over 200 hours in Bloodborne and it's my favorite game of this generation so far but I definitely saw the stuttering. Load times were pretty annoying as well though.

sp00k

Any word on what this will cost in Argos? Nothing on their website yet.

petes

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Well if you've not experienced it then how can you know what you are missing? However that's not really an excuse for it.

If you want to know the difference just play Nioh on performance mode and imagine what it could be like. After 5 games From still haven't got it right yet Nioh offers a performance mode with stable 60 FPS.

I'm not missing anything. I enjoyed them as they are. I've played nioh to completion twice, loved it , didn't need to delve any further.

Out on PC somehow already. Its pretty good. Feels like spider-man with the hook shot thing.

Retr0gamer

Deleted User wrote: »

Out on PC somehow already. Its pretty good. Feels like spider-man with the hook shot thing.

:eek: How! I'm still just pre-loaded.

I'll just have to catch up on Dororo in preparation.

Robert ninja

petes wrote: »

I'm not missing anything. I enjoyed them as they are. I've played nioh to completion twice, loved it , didn't need to delve any further.

You quite literally don't know what you're missing, nor does anyone with Bloodborne since it's console exclusive and locked to 30fps. The developers have experienced it at 60+, probably. Low FPS ruins games for me, they're not responsive to my inputs. I'm very forgiving when it comes to graphics but FPS is about the actual game.


I'm interested in this but I wonder how much re-playability it has. Perhaps I'll wait a little bit.