Lopetegui sacked as Spain manager

SlickRic · 13-06-2018 11:08am #1

Astonishing.

Breaking now.

Mantis Toboggan · 13-06-2018 11:09am

Wow!

razorblunt · 13-06-2018 11:09am

Wow.
Busters, bets, and prediction s/sheets all up in flames!

AndyBoBandy · 13-06-2018 11:09am

Thats what Real Madrid will do to you!!

GavRedKing · 13-06-2018 11:10am

Wow

CantGetNoSleep · 13-06-2018 11:10am

HAHA

amcalester · 13-06-2018 11:11am

Spain going full Real Madrid.

banie01 · 13-06-2018 11:11am

Mental...
Has a manager ever been sacked at this point so close to W.C before?
Especially of one of the favourites!

s3rtvdbwfj81ch · 13-06-2018 11:12am

absolute scenes

McGrath5 · 13-06-2018 11:12am

I was only thinking yesterday that there has been a severe lack of controversy in the build up to this WC.

GavRedKing · 13-06-2018 11:13am

They should still get out of the group but I wonder how the players will react to this news.

Thibus · 13-06-2018 11:14am

Zidane to step in

The Backwards Man · 13-06-2018 11:15am

Player revolt on the cards?

Bandana boy · 13-06-2018 11:17am

Del Bosque surely , since the Allo Allo reboot fell through I don't think he is doing anything

5star02707 · 13-06-2018 11:19am

Real Madrid separating the whole country after the appointment. Could've announced it after the world cup but then again if Lopetegui didn't inform the Spanish FA it's his fault as well

1 day before the world cup !

jacool · 13-06-2018 11:19am

Some papers were saying that Hierro would take over, but it might be Albert Celades, the national team's Under-21s coach. Perhaps they should just let Iniesta run the show for the 4 weeks.
Loptegui signed an extension to his contract as recently as 22May18, so they had to kick him out - no choice.

nullzero · 13-06-2018 11:20am

Are they completely nuts?

5star02707 · 13-06-2018 11:21am

1 of the favorites surely but who will lead them now and their preparation for Friday's game!?

SlickRic · 13-06-2018 11:26am

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Player revolt on the cards?

Ballague (yes, I know) has tweeted that there was a debate with the players involving the Spanish Federation President Luis Rubiales.

The President's position to sack Lopetegui won out.

Whether the players are on board, who knows?

SlickRic · 13-06-2018 11:28am

nullzero wrote: »

Are they completely nuts?

for instance, Bobby Robson agreed to take over PSV after the 1990 World Cup, prior to that tournament.

It's an incredible decision to take, 2 days out from their first match.

It reeks of insecurity. It's a desperate attempt to make it clear that Real Madrid is not bigger than the national team.

s3rtvdbwfj81ch · 13-06-2018 11:29am

Marca (again, I know) were reporting that Ramos was leading a group of "influential" players - you'd imagine any Real players would have the side of the manager here at least.

Bandana boy · 13-06-2018 11:31am

Portugal 3-1 to win on Friday
Starting to look like value

GavRedKing · 13-06-2018 11:31am

I reckon pretty much all of the players would have backed the manager.

Leave him carry on the work and he walks at the end of the WC.

All the Spanish FA has done is cut off its nose to spite its face.

fyfe79 · 13-06-2018 11:40am

GavRedKing wrote: »

I reckon pretty much all of the players would have backed the manager.

Leave him carry on the work and he walks at the end of the WC.

All the Spanish FA has done is cut off its nose to spite its face.

Exactly, they're all professionals who just want to win the WC. I imagine they couldn't care less where the manager goes after the tournament. They'd all realise (even the Barca players) that their chances of winning the tournament have now been damaged, and they'll pin the blame on the president before the manager or Madrid.

Trigger · 13-06-2018 11:41am

Crazy decision by Rubiales, he states that he has spoken with the players and that they have guaranteed they will give everything “along with the new coach to take the team as far as possible”. You would have to wonder just how the players could get into a decent mindset for the Portugal game.

Any sign of the new coach that he is talking about?

marvin80 · 13-06-2018 11:42am

Mental getting rid of a key person on your team so close to the World Cup, how embarrassing......oh wait.............

GavRedKing · 13-06-2018 11:42am

Lopetegui should have been more transparent with the Spanish FA about the Madrid job, it looks like he took the job and then decided to tell the FA.

LuckyLloyd · 13-06-2018 11:43am

This is great! Normally it is one of the African teams that engage in self sabotaging nonsense like this (or ourselves

)

irelandrover · 13-06-2018 11:45am

GavRedKing wrote: »

Lopetegui should have been more transparent with the Spanish FA about the Madrid job, it looks like he took the job and then decided to tell the FA.

Isnt that how eveeryone takes new jobs. Accept the job and then tell your current job.

Its just stupid on all levels from the Spanish FA.

LiamoSail · 13-06-2018 11:46am

SlickRic wrote: »

for instance, Bobby Robson agreed to take over PSV after the 1990 World Cup, prior to that tournament.

It's an incredible decision to take, 2 days out from their first match.

It reeks of insecurity. It's a desperate attempt to make it clear that Real Madrid is not bigger than the national team.

Bobby Robson didn't sign a contract a fortnight before though, nor did he have half the PSV side and half of his new big rivals side in his squad, or even an array of his likely future transfer targets in his squad.

It's a mess. I can see how the Spanish FA's hand has been forced here. In signing a contract a fortnight ago and deciding to leave days later, as well as letting news become public, Loptegul's really shat on the Spanish from a height

LiamoSail · 13-06-2018 11:49am

Devon Pitiful Soil wrote: »

Marca (again, I know) were reporting that Ramos was leading a group of "influential" players - you'd imagine any Real players would have the side of the manager here at least.

Presumably Pique and the Barca contingent wouldn't be as keen

brevity · 13-06-2018 11:51am

murpho999 · 13-06-2018 11:52am

Will this split the Spanish players or galvanize them?

Astonishing decision by the Spanish FA.

BoJack Horseman · 13-06-2018 11:54am

So, has he left Russia.... or is this just a pre-sacking and he'll be on the sideline tomorrow?

GavRedKing · 13-06-2018 11:55am

irelandrover wrote: »

Isnt that how eveeryone takes new jobs. Accept the job and then tell your current job.

Its just stupid on all levels from the Spanish FA.

I get that, but he should have went to the FA and let them know about Madrids interest, which he would have been presumably aware about for some weeks.

SlickRic · 13-06-2018 12:00pm

Albert Celades is the new Spain manager.

https://twitter.com/MiguelDelaney/status/1006853360237121537

Agent Coulson · 13-06-2018 12:00pm

Ramos as player/manager.

Lord TSC · 13-06-2018 12:08pm

SlickRic wrote: »

Albert Celades is the new Spain manager.

https://twitter.com/MiguelDelaney/status/1006853360237121537

Current u21s manager, for those who didn't know.

Guess he was already over there?

SlickRic · 13-06-2018 12:20pm

Lord TSC wrote: »

Current u21s manager, for those who didn't know.

Guess he was already over there?

Hierro will assist.

Mars Bar · 13-06-2018 12:24pm

Jaysus! They say it's because he didn't discuss his Real Madrid appointment with the Spanish federation first.

The sacking still doesn't make sense though!

abcabc123123 · 13-06-2018 12:46pm

Mars Bar wrote: »

Jaysus! They say it's because he didn't discuss his Real Madrid appointment with the Spanish federation first.

The sacking still doesn't make sense though!

Reading between the lines, I'd say there was considerable disquiet amongst the players about Real's announcement and that's why he's gone. Saying he was sacked because he handled it the wrong way is about keeping the heat of the controversy away from the players.

Announcing they were taking the NT's manager two days before the WC is such a Real thing to do. I don't imagine any player would publicly air grievances as it'd make them the lightning rod for any trouble that followed, but I'd say plenty of them were plenty pissed off about it. It was seriously unprofessional of Lopetegui and despite what they might say in public, playing for the Real Madrid manager would create instability.

irelandrover · 13-06-2018 12:49pm

abcabc123123 wrote: »

Reading between the lines, I'd say there was considerable disquiet amongst the players about Real's announcement and that's why he's gone. Saying he was sacked because he handled it the wrong way is about keeping the heat of the controversy away from the players.

Announcing they were taking the NT's manager two days before the WC is such a Real thing to do. I don't imagine any player would publicly air grievances as it'd make them the lightning rod for any trouble that followed, but I'd say plenty of them were plenty pissed off about it. It was seriously unprofessional of Lopetegui and despite what they might say in public, playing for the Real Madrid manager would create instability.

Why? What difference does it make who he manages aftre the world cup?

wandatowell · 13-06-2018 12:50pm

What a news story. Brilliant stuff.

Berserker · 13-06-2018 12:59pm

Incredible news. The stars are aligning. Football's coming home!!

Cantona's Collars · 13-06-2018 1:08pm

Hierro to step in as manager.

https://twitter.com/SeFutbol/status/1006867275478110209

Ardent · 13-06-2018 1:26pm

Why would the Spanish FA president put himself in this position?! It's a lose-lose situation. Mind boggling stuff. Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face.

Cookiemunster · 13-06-2018 2:08pm

Ardent wrote: »

Why would the Spanish FA president put himself in this position?! It's a lose-lose situation. Mind boggling stuff. Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face.

You obviously haven't been following the ongoings in Spanish football recently. This is nothing compared to the stuff his predecessor Villar got up to. Indeed he only got the job because Villar had to be removed after being arrested on corruption charges.

LuckyLloyd · 13-06-2018 3:05pm

irelandrover wrote: »

Why? What difference does it make who he manages aftre the world cup?

Something something Barcelona something something Franco something classless

jacool · 13-06-2018 4:24pm

Ardent wrote: »

Why would the Spanish FA president put himself in this position?! It's a lose-lose situation. Mind boggling stuff. Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face.

I actually think he's right. You sit down with a manager and sign a contract to go up to 2020. Its then announced, 3 weeks later that he's actually put no value on that contract by signing one with another team. The disrespect alone would mean you should fire him. There's no reason for Lopetegui to achieve anything with Spain as he has his new job regardless. If Real Madrid wanted him, couldn't they have waited until after the World Cup and lined everything up with his agent in the meantime? When Spain lost their semi-final, Real could have announced this after the 3rd-4th play-off match.

13-06-2018 4:36pm

jacool wrote: »

I actually think he's right. You sit down with a manager and sign a contract to go up to 2020. Its then announced, 3 weeks later that he's actually put no value on that contract by signing one with another team. The disrespect alone would mean you should fire him.

I too think they deserve credit for having the backbone to tell him to take a hike.

~Rebel~ · 13-06-2018 6:29pm

In isolation, sacking him immediately for what he did is totally fair enough, and perhaps even suing him for breach of contract since he only renewed a few weeks ago, or holding him to it and putting him on gardening leave for the next year or something...

but this isn't in isolation. With the whole country watching, there's got to be a way to register their displeasure with his actions, and manage some sort of punishment - financial or otherwise - without blowing up the biggest event in football.

Lopetegui sacked as Spain manager

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