General Premier League Thread 2018-19

niallo27

Chelsea

Fred The Red wrote: »

3-1

Anyone fancy complaining about the foul on Kompany :P

Give it a go sure.

yabadabado

golfball37 wrote: »

An absolute farce that first goal is not offside ffs. What bloody rule says he’s not interfering?

It would be a farce if it was an offside. Correct call by the officials .

shamrock55

Chelsea

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It is amusing that Irish fans of Liverpool and ManU have a go at City about the number of fans when of course the reason they picked Liverpool and ManU in the first place was because they were the most popular teams in the class. It's all a bit circular and self fulfilling

Wrong actually, both clubs always had big links to ireland and always had a lot of Irish players, don't they call Liverpool the 2nd capital of ireland

dmigsy

Chelsea

gstack166 wrote: »

That state has pledged 1 billion towards regeneration in Manchester
Built the best academy in the world which gives equal opportunities to all
Created countless jobs & the club captain is doing more then parliament to tackle Manchesters homeless crisis.

Like you give a **** about UAE human rights.

You're gas. Living proof that sportswashing is effective.

Shanotheslayer

Man Utd

yabadabado wrote: »

It would be a farce if it was an offside. Correct call by the officials .

No it wasn't. Learn the offside rule.

GavRedKing

Man Utd

shamrock55 wrote: »

Wrong actually, both clubs always had big links to ireland and always had a lot of Irish players, don't they call Liverpool the 2nd capital of ireland

That's Cork you're thinking of.

Cantona's Collars

shamrock55 wrote: »

Wrong actually, both clubs always had big links to ireland and always had a lot of Irish players, don't they call Liverpool the 2nd capital of ireland

I think Cork people might have something to say about that.

dmigsy

Chelsea

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Another who moved on to win things. The boy done well considering he used to look like Walcott part 2.

Ah, Sterling was always class.

niallo27

Chelsea

yabadabado wrote: »

It would be a farce if it was an offside. Correct call by the officials .

Why so.

niallo27

Chelsea

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

I think Cork people might have something to say about that.

Cork people have always something to say about everything in fairness.

charolais0153

Chelsea

Fred The Red wrote: »

I think VAR would have assisted the refs

Read an awful lot of people complaining about it the other day ironically

People argue about decisions for days with screenshots etc. Var or nothing,it doesnt matter

gstack166

Man Utd

naughtb4 wrote: »

I don't give a **** about Manchester either

Why bring up Human rights issues then if you don’t give a **** about them?

Wouldn’t be bitterness surely.

Fromvert

Man Utd

yabadabado wrote: »

It would be a farce if it was an offside. Correct call by the officials .

Must be tough to watch games when you dont know the rules.

shamrock55

Liverpool

shamrock55 wrote: »

Wrong actually, both clubs always had big links to ireland and always had a lot of Irish players, don't they call Liverpool the 2nd capital of ireland

Yeah, like the average 7 year old studied the Irish influence in British cities before selecting their team...:D

It also doesn't explain why they would plump for the club with historic Loyalist connections in the city of Liverpool.

shamrock55

Chelsea

I'm from cork btw

Corholio

Even Peter 'I stick up for my ref pals' Walton thought the decision was wrong. That's all you'd need to know.

I hate when decisions like that happen in games because it also starts tinfoil hat conspiracy theories like 'oh we'll never win the league when they get decisions like that' nonsense.

Fromvert

Man Utd

Corholio wrote: »

Even Peter 'I stick up for my ref pals' Walton thought the decision was wrong. That's all you'd need to know.

I hate when decisions like that happen in games because it also starts tinfoil hat conspiracy theories like 'oh we'll never win the league when they get decisions like that' nonsense.

Every team gets incorrect calls go their way, can still complain about incompetent refs without getting into the conspiracy theories.

Cantona's Collars

shamrock55 wrote: »

I'm from cork btw

We all have our crosses to bear.
Ah sure the Cork accent is a bit like a Scouse one - unintelligible a lot of the time.:)

yabadabado

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

No it wasn't. Learn the offside rule.

I know it, unfortunately I dont think you do.

Shanotheslayer

Man Utd

yabadabado wrote: »

I know it, unfortunately I dont think you do.

Evidently you don't.

theoneeyedman

shamrock55 wrote: »

Wrong actually, both clubs always had big links to ireland and always had a lot of Irish players, don't they call Liverpool the 2nd capital of ireland

In actual fact, most Irish/Catholic people in Liverpool tended to follow Everton, probably up to the 1950s or so. Liverpool were seen as a more Scottish/Protestant club in the early days - I'm a Liverpool fan BTW.

Getting back to City's first goal.... The standard of refereeing in England as I keep saying is atrocious. That was simply an incorrect decision, but English officials consistently get these decisions wrong, and it's normally in favour of attackers. It's like defensive work is being outlawed. Contact in the box, automatically a penalty. Score from a handball, goal stands (David Silva almost did it in the first half today). Offside in the middle of the box, carry on.
Evidence in the Champions league during the week would suggest this is only going to get worse with VAR. They will soon outlaw offside altogether, completely ban tackling on attacking areas, and give penaltys of the ball makes any contact above the waist, deliberate or not.

niallo27

Chelsea

yabadabado wrote: »

I know it, unfortunately I dont think you do.

Why do you think it was the correct call.

Shanotheslayer

Man Utd

niallo27 wrote: »

Why do you think it was the correct call.

Because it favours his opinion.

shamrock55

Chelsea

theoneeyedman wrote: »

In actual fact, most Irish people in Liverpool tended to follow Everton, probably up to the 1950s or so. Liverpool were seen as a more Scottish/Protestant club in the early days - I'm a Liverpool fan BTW.

Getting back to City's first goal.... The standard of refereeing in England as I keep saying is atrocious. That was simply an incorrect decision, but English officials consistently get these decisions wrong, and it's normally in favour of attackers. It's like defensive work is being outlawed. Contact in the box, automatically a penalty. Score from a handball, goal stands (David Silva almost did it in the first half today). Offside in the middle of the box, carry on.
Evidence in the Champions league during the week would suggest this is only going to get worse with VAR. They will soon outlaw offside altogether, completely ban tackling on attacking areas, and give penaltys of the ball makes any contact above the waist, deliberate or not.

Don't talk to me about the everton/Catholic thing, my everton supporting pal likes to remind me of this

Shanotheslayer

Man Utd

shamrock55 wrote: »

Don't talk to me about the everton/Catholic thing, my everton supporting pal likes to remind me of this

The truth hurts :pac:

Turtyturd

niallo27 wrote: »

Why do you think it was the correct call.

For a reaction?

Cantona's Collars

At least Watford put in a bit more effort today than they did at Anfield,the most work they did there was climb off the bus.

Fromvert

Man Utd

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

At least Watford put in a bit more effort today than they did at Anfield,the most work they did there was climb off the bus.

Seems like they learnt from it, tried to play open against Liverpool and got thumped for it, rested players and changed tactics but weren't much of a threat because of it in the first half.

The Talking Bread

Chelsea

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

I reckon that's YPOTY done and dusted. Still feels weird that Sterling is still a 'young player'.

VVD probably surely has it wrapped up but Sterling wouldn't be far off POTY, never mind YPOTY.

giveitholly

Man Utd

The Talking Bread wrote: »

VVD probably surely has it wrapped up but Sterling wouldn't be far off POTY, never mind YPOTY.

Has a player ever got both before?

gstack166

Man Utd

giveitholly wrote: »

Has a player ever got both before?

Bale did a few years back. Ronaldo also. Andy Gray further back again with Everton.

Off the top of my head them 3. Probably more

The Talking Bread

Man Utd

The Talking Bread wrote: »

VVD probably surely has it wrapped up but Sterling wouldn't be far off POTY, never mind YPOTY.

14/1. Might be a decent bet

martyos121

Man Utd

giveitholly wrote: »

Has a player ever got both before?

Bale did I think.

Lumbo

Man Utd

shamrock55 wrote: »

Don't talk to me about the everton/Catholic thing, my everton supporting pal likes to remind me of this

Everton aren’t a Catholic club

Royal Irish

Man Utd

The Talking Bread wrote: »

VVD probably surely has it wrapped up but Sterling wouldn't be far off POTY, never mind YPOTY.

How could Van Dijk have it wrapped up when he hasn't even won any trophies yet?

gstack166

Man Utd

Royal Irish wrote: »

How could Van Dijk have it wrapped up when he hasn't even won any trophies yet?

Same way Salah did last year. That cult will drive him to it.

In fairness though, VVD has been POTY for me but would be a joke if for the 4th time they won the Premier league (if they do win it) that City don’t have the POTY.

ThunbergsAreGo

Royal Irish wrote: »

How could Van Dijk have it wrapped up when he hasn't even won any trophies yet?

Why do you need to win trophies to win it?

Rayne Wooney

Royal Irish wrote: »

How could Van Dijk have it wrapped up when he hasn't even won any trophies yet?

He’s made Klopp look competent at organising a defence which is being considered by the Vatican as a miracle

In the bag baby

gstack166

Man Utd

naughtb4 wrote: »

Why do you need to win trophies to win it?

You don’t. City have proved that, they’ve never had a winner.

Cantona's Collars

Lumbo wrote: »

Everton aren’t a Catholic club

In his academic article, “Red and Blue and Orange and Green”, however, Dr David Kennedy of Glasgow’s Caledonian University, argues that while the falling out between Everton board members (1892) that led to Liverpool FC’s establishment was ostensibly over the rent for Anfield and starkly contrasting views over the use and abuse of alcohol at the time, politics played a big part too.
Liverpool FC’s founder, John Houlding, eight of its early board members and many others associated with it were deeply involved with the Conservative Party and also, in many cases, both the Freemasons and the city’s deeply-sectarian Working Men’s Conservative Association which, in turn, had strong links to the local Orange Order.

The early Everton board, meanwhile, were active Liberals, and sold themselves to the significant Irish portion of the local electorate as being in favour of Home Rule for Ireland."

The Talking Bread

Chelsea

Royal Irish wrote: »

How could Van Dijk have it wrapped up when he hasn't even won any trophies yet?

The player of the year is an award for the most standout player up to the point the award is made. Not for the most standout player in the team that will probably win the league.

I am not a Liverpool fan btw. But it is perfectly clear VVD has been brilliant this season

The Talking Bread

Chelsea

gstack166 wrote: »

You don’t. City have proved that, they’ve never had a winner.

was there any season you feel they were notably hard done by?

gstack166

Man Utd

The Talking Bread wrote: »

was there any season you feel they were notably hard done by?

Last season. KDB was the standout player in a record breaking team. The best player in the league & a won a cup too.

I’ve no problem with the winning team not having a winner if it’s deserved but to say Salah deserved it over KDB last season as brilliant as both were, is not right.

Anyways old news, don’t want to bring that up again. I genuinely have no problem with VVD winning it this year regardless if they finish 1st or 2nd.

Lumbo

Liverpool

Lumbo wrote: »

Everton aren’t a Catholic club

Not now, nor should they be.

But they were the club with Irish Nationalist Catholic support while Liverpool FC was associated with Orange Order parades in the city.

Of course that stuff is noe seen as nonsense...but so too is the suggestion that Irish kids follow Liverpool because they analyse the Irish influence on clubs.

The Talking Bread

Chelsea

gstack166 wrote: »

I genuinely have no problem with VVD winning it this year regardless if they finish 1st or 2nd.

You clearly do have a small problem with it, at least be honest, rather than diplomatic!?

"would be a joke if for the 4th time they won the Premier league (if they do win it) that City don’t have the POTY." !

gstack166

Man Utd

The Talking Bread wrote: »

You clearly do have a small problem with it, at least be honest, rather than diplomatic!?

"would be a joke if for the 4th time they won the Premier league (if they do win it) that City don’t have the POTY." !

It would be a joke would it not? But this year VVD deserves it Salah did not. Simples.

Benzino

Man Utd

gstack166 wrote: »

It would be a joke would it not? But this year VVD deserves it Salah did not. Simples.

How? The best player in the league does not necessarily have to play for the best team.

gstack166

Man Utd

Benzino wrote: »

How? The best player in the league does not necessarily have to play for the best team.

I’ve already made my point on it. I just agreed with what you just posted a message back also.

My opinion is VVD deserves it this year no matter Liverpool’s finishing position, but Salah did not deserve it over KDB.

The Talking Bread

Chelsea

gstack166 wrote: »

It would be a joke would it not? But this year VVD deserves it Salah did not. Simples.

Hmm. Disagree. Salah was phenomenal last season. 32 goals in the league, 45 in all competitions in his debut season and not even as a centre forward. He was unplayable 90% of the time.
That is far from a sleight at KDB. It just shows you how much impact Salah had on fans when he was touted by the majority as the player that edged it between them.


I do agree that City players will always have the "surrounded by "superstars" " aspect hanging over them when fans/media talk about these awards though


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ShamoBuc

Chelsea

gstack166 wrote: »

I’ve already made my point on it. I just agreed with what you just posted a message back also.

My opinion is VVD deserves it this year no matter Liverpool’s finishing position, but Salah did not deserve it over KDB.

VVD would be a deserving winner this year.
Given how outstanding he was last year, I think Salah too was deserving.