General Premier League Thread 2018-19

yourdeadwright

Man Utd

A lot of talk from fans of Liverpool and Spurs being bottlers this season,
I believe the word "bottlers " is used totally out of context

So a serious question seen as United where in 4th on Sunday with a chance to go 4 points clear of 5th if they won , Will it be seen as them being bottlers if they do not now finish in the top 4 ?

Personally i think the word is so over used now and none of the above have bottled anything yet this season ,
I don't get why people all of a sudden use it for every time someone loses a game or don't achieve they are aiming for,

Mr.H

yourdeadwright wrote:

Personally i think the word is so over used now and none of the above have bottled anything yet this season , I don't get why people all of a sudden use it for every time someone loses a game or don't achieve they are aiming for,

Lets be honest it is used by opposition fans to slag a team they dont want to win.

Last season people say liverpool bottled the champions league but it was amazing they actually got to the final given the lack of spend that season and selling coutinho. Again this season people slag liverpool yet this is their best ever season. Hardly bottling.

Similar things have been said about arsenal united chelsea in the past. Its just people taking the proverbial melted yellow snow.

yourdeadwright

Man Utd

Mr.H wrote: »

Lets be honest it is used by opposition fans to slag a team they dont want to win.

Last season people say liverpool bottled the champions league but it was amazing they actually got to the final given the lack of spend that season and selling coutinho. Again this season people slag liverpool yet this is their best ever season. Hardly bottling.

Similar things have been said about arsenal united chelsea in the past. Its just people taking the proverbial melted yellow snow.

That's the stuff I'm talking about,

How can you bottle a final you've no one expected you to reach

Also like United have done amazing to be in top 4 chance but some will say they bottled it if they finish 5th or 6th , its madness ,

Spurs haven't spent any money , haven't had a home game in 2 years and if they finish 3rd there seen as bottler's

The word needs to go away ,

The Mulk

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Has a club ever won the champions League and not qualified for it via top? Was it Chelsea that won and finished 7th?

Curious if United win it will it be a first if they failed to get top 4

Real Madrid did it in 1999-2000, finished fifth but won the Champions League, set the precedent that the FA 'bottled' the year Liverpool won it :pac:

citytillidie

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Has a club ever won the champions League and not qualified for it via top? Was it Chelsea that won and finished 7th?

Curious if United win it will it be a first if they failed to get top 4

Nottingham Forest won the European Cup without winning the league to qualify winning it back to back

The Talking Bread

Chelsea

Mr.H wrote: »

Lets be honest it is used by opposition fans to slag a team they dont want to win.

Last season people say liverpool bottled the champions league
.

No they didn't. I don't recall anyone saying that.

They lost that game fair and square and having their best player injured early didn't help.
Sure the keeper didn't cover himself in glory but it is very difficult to say the better team lost..

Mr.H

The Talking Bread wrote:

They lost that game fair and square and having their best player injured early didn't help. Sure the keeper didn't cover himself in glory but it is very difficult to say the better team lost..

When did i say they where the better team? I am just highlighting that they went beyond expectations by even being there.

The Talking Bread wrote:

No they didn't. I don't recall anyone saying that.

Your kidding right? Every non liverpool fan couldnt wait to say the word bottle

Shanotheslayer

Man Utd

Vex Willems wrote: »

Yet you support Everton? Who actually finished 4th in 2005, qualifying for Champions League for first and only time? You'd think you'd remember things like that!

I'm well aware that Everton qualified for a Champions League around that era.

Yet I forgot the year. Madness. How dare I forget finishing 4th 14 years ago.

yourdeadwright

Man Utd

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

I'm well aware that Everton qualified for a Champions League around that era.

Yet I forgot the year. Madness. How dare I forget finishing 4th 14 years ago.

Everton never qualified ,
They got beat in the 3rd champions league qualifier round,

So as the title of the game suggest they did not Qualify

dundalkfc10

It’s like reading a bunch of teenage girls having a go at each other on here

The Talking Bread

Chelsea

Mr.H wrote: »

When did i say they where the better team? I am just highlighting that they went beyond expectations by even being there.



Your kidding right? Every non liverpool fan couldnt wait to say the word bottle

I honestly don't recall anyone not acknowledging Liverpool went beyond expectations and I don't recall anyone saying they bottled it. No.

Speak up those who did believe so.

Quazzie

Man Utd

yourdeadwright wrote: »

A lot of talk from fans of Liverpool and Spurs being bottlers this season,
I believe the word "bottlers " is used totally out of context

So a serious question seen as United where in 4th on Sunday with a chance to go 4 points clear of 5th if they won , Will it be seen as them being bottlers if they do not now finish in the top 4 ?

Personally i think the word is so over used now and none of the above have bottled anything yet this season ,
I don't get why people all of a sudden use it for every time someone loses a game or don't achieve they are aiming for,

The only bottlers are Spurs who finished 3rd in a 2 horse race, the year Leicester won it.

yourdeadwright

Man Utd

Quazzie wrote: »

The only bottlers are Spurs who finished 3rd in a 2 horse race, the year Leicester won it.

But they where never ahead of Leicester ? how did they bottle it ?
Once they knew they couldn't win it thee isn't much of a difference between 2nd and 3rd

Loafing Oaf

Man Utd

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

It’s like reading a bunch of teenage girls having a go at each other on here

Boardsie Girls: could be the makings of a hit sitcom there...

Liverpool

I propose we move away from the talk of bottling and not bottling and agree a formula of words we all can use if Liverpool do not win the title.

I propose "sxxt the course" or "blew it" but other suggestions are welcome.

TitianGerm

Man Utd

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I propose we move away from the talk of bottling and not bottling and agree a formula of words we all can use if Liverpool do not win the title.

I propose "sxxt the course" or "blew it" but other suggestions are welcome.

Or how about we just say that they'd a great season and City were slightly better?

Or if United just fall short of Top 4 why don't we say they had a great few months but just left themselves a little to much to do.

Or if Spurs drop to 5th why don't we say that the lack of transfers and playing in Wembley hurt them this season but they had some great results in the CL.

etc etc.

Spurs

Ya may as well add the words bottle, snowflake, wind and favorites to the "I'm offended" list like everything else on the soccer forum at this stage.

Shanotheslayer

Man Utd

Fred The Red wrote: »

Ya may as well add the words bottle, snowflake, wind and favorites to the "I'm offended" list like everything else on the soccer forum at this stage.

It's nothing to do with people being offended by it.

It increases absolute sh1te talking posts with have no reason than to wind up the opposition fans and it's toxic reading.

Shanotheslayer

Spurs

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

It's nothing to do with people being offended by it.

It increases absolute sh1te talking posts with have no reason than to wind up the opposition fans and it's toxic reading.

So it's not causing offence but it's winding certain posters up then? One could say they are the same. Offended, upset, annoyed?

Maybe just maybe some should take a deep breath and not get so worked up over sweet **** all perhaps?

charolais0153

Chelsea

Fred The Red wrote: »

So it's not causing offence but it's winding certain posters up then? One could say they are the same.

Maybe just maybe some should take a deep breath and not get so worked up over sweet **** all perhaps?

Hit the nail on the head. If it doesnt make for great reading,dont read it

Baggly

Man Utd

charolais0153 wrote:

Hit the nail on the head. If it doesnt make for great reading,dont read it

Unread it, you mean?

rob316

Chelsea

Fred The Red wrote: »

So it's not causing offence but it's winding certain posters up then? One could say they are the same. Offended, upset, annoyed?

Maybe just maybe some should take a deep breath and not get so worked up over sweet **** all perhaps?

It's just childish and adds nothing to the conversation.

rob316

Spurs

rob316 wrote: »

It's just childish and adds nothing to the conversation.

So it should not be used on the soccer forum? As it's upsetting someone, being childish, offending whatever way you want to dress it up? Again. Add it to list at this stage with everything else.

Either that or stop getting so wound up over sweet **** all.

rob316

Chelsea

Fred The Red wrote: »

So it should not be used on the soccer forum? As it's upsetting someone, being childish, offending whatever way you want to dress it up? Again. Add it to list at this stage with everything else.

Either that or stop getting so wound up over sweet **** all.

It's just ****ing childish, that's a different meaning and word to offensive.

Going off your posting style I can see why it appeals to you.

pjohnson

Man Utd

Whats this thread about again?

rob316

Chelsea

pjohnson wrote: »

Whats this thread about again?

United the bottlers, Spurs the bottlers, Liverpool the bottlers.

Bottlers here there, everywhere

pjohnson

Man Utd

rob316 wrote: »

United the bottlers, Spurs the bottlers, Liverpool the bottlers.

Bottlers here there, everywhere

So you yourself want to stay childish tantruming.

Rightio.

rob316

Spurs

rob316 wrote: »

It's just ****ing childish, that's a different meaning and word to offensive.

Going off your posting style I can see why it appeals to you.

So, it boils down to another "pop at the poster"?

Can you tell me where I said it appeals to me please. Back up your accusations.

I said it's either not allowed because it's offending people or you simply grow a pair and stop getting so worked up over nothing.

Shanotheslayer

Man Utd

Fred The Red wrote: »

Can you tell me where I said it appeals to me please. Back up your accusations.

It appeals to you because you're one of the posters that goes out of their way wind up opposition fans which makes it toxic reading for the ones who don't.

Back up accusations? Read your own posting history

Kiith

Enough with the back and forth. If you have an issue with something that is posted, report it and move on.

Back on topic please.

Shanotheslayer

Spurs

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

It appeals to you because you're one of the posters that goes out of their way wind up opposition fans which makes it toxic reading for the ones who don't.

Back up accusations? Read your own posting history

Have you reported the posts you say are applicable? Again back up your accusations.

There is a clear point I made but you like rob are using it as an excuse to attack a poster.

I've not commented on your posting style or history.

*Edit* just spotted the warning. Apologies.

Muahahaha

Chelsea

Anyone know what the music is that Match of the Day are using during goal highlights/round ups? Its the same tune used in the current Vodafone rugby ads, cant seem to find the name of it anywhere

Trigger

Man Utd

Muahahaha wrote: »

Anyone know what the music is that Match of the Day are using during goal highlights/round ups? Its the same tune used in the current Vodafone rugby ads, cant seem to find the name of it anywhere

They use different ones all the time.. Google BBC music profile on spotify if you have it and look for the match of the day playlists and you will more than likely find the song your looking for there

You could also Shazam it the next time it comes on

Muahahaha

Chelsea

Thanks astradave. Tried Shazam but it won't work when there is a voice over the tune. Yeah I saw the Match of the Day Spotify playlist but there is 70 tracks on it, just thought someone might know it to save me looking for a needle in a haystack

edit-found it, the track is Island by Fuse ODG

BullBlackNova

Man Utd

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47574083

Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season - BBC reporting that West Ham aren't going to offer him a new deal so it means he's played his last game there.

It just didn't work out for him at all. 4th time in 6 seasons that he failed to even make 20 appearances. (5 in 6 seasons if you only count league games...) 1 goal in 14 games this season in all comps.

Hard to know where to from here!

Spurs

What an injury riddled career

ERG89

BullBlackNova wrote:

Andy Carroll ruled out for the rest of the season - BBC reporting that West Ham aren't going to offer him a new deal so it means he's played his last game there.

How long was Jack Wilshire's contract again?

Fitz*

Man Utd

Have to feel sorry for him a bit there too.

He really seems like he tried to turn his career around, off the pitch especially, in the last few years but injuries just kept keeping him back.

Wonder would he go back to Newcastle? No transfer fee required.

GavRedKing

Man Utd

Carroll will struggle to find a PL side willing to take him on surely?

Might be worth a punt for a newly promoted side but if hes only going to play 1/3 of the games a season, he wont be worth it.

yourdeadwright

Man Utd

Hard to believe he has been at West ham for 7 season's where does the time go ,

Fitz*

Man Utd

not PL, but Scholes has left his job as Oldham manager after a handful of weeks.

Back to the studio with him you would have to assume. Fair play for giving it a try after being very outspoken on certain managers over the last few seasons but it seems like he just might not be cut out for it.

yourdeadwright

Man Utd

FitzShane wrote: »

not PL, but Scholes has left his job as Oldham manager after a handful of weeks.

Back to the studio with him you would have to assume. Fair play for giving it a try after being very outspoken on certain managers over the last few seasons but it seems like he just might not be cut out for it.

I'm not a huge fan of Scholes but it must be hard for lads who played for a top club there whole life and only know the very very highest level to go to a place like Oldham and succeed.

Even Pep the manager extraordinary would suffer and couldn't have them playing the way he wants football to be played ,

TFBubendorfer

Man Utd

GavRedKing wrote: »

Carroll will struggle to find a PL side willing to take him on surely?

Might be worth a punt for a newly promoted side but if hes only going to play 1/3 of the games a season, he wont be worth it.

I'm sure there will be plenty of clubs offering him a "pay as you play" contract - low base salary but high bonuses for playing time and goals.

blueser

Man Utd

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I'm not a huge fan of Scholes but it must be hard for lads who played for a top club there whole life and only know the very very highest level to go to a place like Oldham and succeed.

Even Pep the manager extraordinary would suffer and couldn't have them playing the way he wants football to be played ,

https://twitter.com/btsportscore/status/1106246655328878593

Interference from the boardroom, maybe.

Paully D

Chelsea

Paul Merson reveals he is struggling with gambling addiction again.

Doesn’t he give tips on a weekly basis live on Sky Sports FFS?!

LuckyGent88

Man Utd

Paully D wrote: »

Paul Merson reveals he is struggling with gambling addiction again.

Doesn’t he give tips on a weekly basis live on Sky Sports FFS?!

And horrendous ones at that. No surprise at all.

Speak Now

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

And horrendous ones at that. No surprise at all.

All his tips are based on each teams last match, dreadful stuff really.

Mr.Nice Guy

Chelsea

Could be trouble ahead for Pep and co.

https://twitter.com/MirrorFootball/status/1106336065198145540

ricero

Chelsea

blueser wrote: »

https://twitter.com/btsportscore/status/1106246655328878593

Interference from the boardroom, maybe.

Resigned via WhatsApp. Such a cowardly act.

Cantona's Collars

ricero wrote: »

Resigned via WhatsApp. Such a cowardly act.

Whatever you think of Scholes,one thing is that he's far from cowardly. The chairman of that club interferes too much and Scholes has his principles and stood by by them,no point in staying in a job that's not working out.
But your bias and hatred just compels you to make dick remarks to get thanks from the gang.