General Premier League Thread 2018-19

deaddonkey15

Man Utd

gimli2112 wrote: »

There's really very little in it, likewise if Sanchez had contributed anything Utd would not be in this situation. On the player side I think he's you're biggest problem, when he should be dragging you through this. Losing to Derby in the LC 3rd round isn't a major thing but it's magnifying issues at the club, which is further stirred up in the media and online.

I really dislike Jose, he's an odious character, imo. It's shocking to admit but Utd deserve better.

They'd have you believe it's all Martial's fault.

x43r0

Man Utd

Turtwig wrote: »

If Rafa were to leave Newcastle - and you gotta expect he'll do so eventually - he would definitely help bring stability to United. Might not have a 'style' suited United but to heck with that what the club needs now more than ever is a defined structure. Rafa to stabilise things while the club get their act together, identify a philosophy, get a director of football and start targetting players and coaches who could be moulded into it.

After the **** he got from Chelsea fans during his short time there I'd hope he wouldn't want more of the same. It'd be 10x worse from the other lot

gimli2112

Chelsea

x43r0 wrote: »

After the **** he got from Chelsea fans during his short time there I'd hope he wouldn't want more of the same. It'd be 10x worse from the other lot

I like Rafa but he's certainly not the solution to their problems. It would be like trying to put out a fire with gasoline.

eagle eye

Man Utd

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

If our striker didn't miss sitters in almost every game he's played this season, the complexion of the season so far and the conversations around United would be a lot different I think.

And yet he has scored four goals in the Premier league which is the same as Aguero and one behind Hazard and Mitrovic.

Do you expect him to score in every game?

5starpool

Man Utd

If Liverpool draw the next 2 games, which are against Chelsea and Man City, which is very plausible, you'd probably have 3 teams then on 20 points from 8 games, and possibly Spurs and Arsenal 2 points behind if they both win their very winnable games. It would be set up very nicely for a multi way battle, and Utd could only be 4 points behind too at that point as they have no massively difficult games on paper coming in the next couple of weeks either.

Obviously that won't happen now that I've said it, but to have the top 5 separated by 2 points at the 8 game mark would be very juicy for the PL promotional aspect, even if Man City would remain very strong favourites.

eagle eye

Spurs

eagle eye wrote: »

And yet he has scored four goals in the Premier league which is the same as Aguero and one behind Hazard and Mitrovic.

Do you expect him to score in every game?

Factor in he has probably received the least amount of chances created when compared to those clubs I think he's performing quite well.

5starpool

Spurs

5starpool wrote: »

If Liverpool draw the next 2 games, which are against Chelsea and Man City, which is very plausible, you'd probably have 3 teams then on 20 points from 8 games, and possibly Spurs and Arsenal 2 points behind if they both win their very winnable games. It would be set up very nicely for a multi way battle, and Utd could only be 4 points behind too at that point as they have no massively difficult games on paper coming in the next couple of weeks either.

Obviously that won't happen now that I've said it, but to have the top 5 separated by 2 points at the 8 game mark would be very juicy for the PL promotional aspect, even if Man City would remain very strong favourites.

It is for the purpose of Sky hype but for an accurate assessment of who challenges for what in really should be left for after Xmas IMO

Chelsea have surprised me the most this season thus far, followed closely by Arsenal. Both having similar types of transition but have settled in quickly.

deaddonkey15

Man Utd

eagle eye wrote: »

And yet he has scored four goals in the Premier league which is the same as Aguero and one behind Hazard and Mitrovic.

Do you expect him to score in every game?

I expect him to score open goals and one on ones.

klose

Last night has absolutely no bearing on mourinhos future at United I would wager, not the first a big team will lose to a lower division team in a cup game and certainly won't be the last. The next two league games before the next international break are massive though, away to west ham and home to Newcastle, anything less than 6 points there and it would be fairly doom and gloom going into the break. West ham are however on the back of two pretty good results going into next week.

correction

Man Utd

Fred The Red wrote: »

It is for the purpose of Sky hype but for an accurate assessment of who challenges for what in really should be left for after Xmas IMO

Chelsea have surprised me the most this season thus far, followed closely by Arsenal. Both having similar types of transition but have settled in quickly.

As an Arsenal fan I'd advise you not to be surprised by us at all. We've played brutal pretty much all season barring a 25 minute spell against Chelsea. Emery is getting nothing from our best players and could have lost every game we've won if the opposition were more clinical. I saw the stats say that we're massively over performing our xG so unless Emery gets us playing well (I doubt he will), results will drop off any week.

correction

Spurs

correction wrote: »

As an Arsenal fan I'd advise you not to be surprised by us at all. We've played brutal pretty much all season barring a 25 minute spell against Chelsea. Emery is getting nothing from our best players and could have lost every game we've won if the opposition were more clinical. I saw the stats say that we're massively over performing our xG so unless Emery gets us playing well (I doubt he will), results will drop off any week.

Maybe I jumped the gun and went on points total so apologies. But I'm still surprised to see Arsenal positioned where they are.
Tbf he had a fairly tough start with the first one or two fixtures.

gimli2112

Chelsea

gimli2112 wrote: »

There's really very little in it, likewise if Sanchez had contributed anything Utd would not be in this situation. On the player side I think he's you're biggest problem, when he should be dragging you through this.
r.

It's pretty funny. When they did they trade they were sure they had mugged Arsenal.

Fitz*

Man Utd

https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1044906594318929921

https://twitter.com/JamieJackson___/status/1044918713810604033

They really do not help themselves do they.

"media conspiracy" :pac:

gimli2112

Chelsea

ok I've watched that training clip twice now and there's really nothing in it. It would need to be a John Hartson/Eyal Berkovic type scenario to be newsworthy.
They really live in a goldfish bowl

5starpool

Man Utd

Fred The Red wrote: »

It is for the purpose of Sky hype but for an accurate assessment of who challenges for what in really should be left for after Xmas IMO

Chelsea have surprised me the most this season thus far, followed closely by Arsenal. Both having similar types of transition but have settled in quickly.

Oh absolutely it is early days, but speaking from a Liverpool point of view, often after 8 games loads of points have been dropped and they could be 8-10 points off the lead so any dreams of 'being our year' are extinguished early. City still strong favourites, but the longer teams are in the mix the better obviously. The last 2 leagues have been processions from fairly early on (before Christmas anyway) so to have some drama at the top end would be good, although if all other teams except Liverpool want to drop silly points regularly, I'd be quite ok with that.

Utd started last season with 19/21 points, and while they finished second fairly comfortably, they were not really with a chance of the title from well before Christmas, and given that they were the best of the rest it says it all.

eagle eye

Man Utd

deaddonkey15 wrote:

I expect him to score open goals and one on ones.

So you expect him to score at the same rate as Messi and Ronaldo?
Every other top striker misses many chances.

KERSPLAT!

Chelsea

gimli2112 wrote: »

ok I've watched that training clip twice now and there's really nothing in it. It would need to be a John Hartson/Eyal Berkovic type scenario to be newsworthy.
They really live in a goldfish bowl

Nothing in it!? Pogbas reaction says it all. There's only a place for one of them at United now, come the summer or even the January window I fully expect one or the other to be gone. Very hard to rebuild a relationship with what they have both said publicly

gimli2112

Chelsea

Yeah I have worse disagreements with my bosses all the time. While I'm naturally quite contrary and not nearly as valuable as Pogba, I don't have problems with my bosses, other than their very existence.

blueser

Man Utd

gimli2112 wrote: »

ok I've watched that training clip twice now and there's really nothing in it. It would need to be a John Hartson/Eyal Berkovic type scenario to be newsworthy.
They really live in a goldfish bowl

"Nothing in it"? Watching Pogba's reaction to whatever Mourinho said to him, you seriously believe there's nothing in it?

deaddonkey15

Man Utd

eagle eye wrote: »

So you expect him to score at the same rate as Messi and Ronaldo?
Every other top striker misses many chances.

How you got that conclusion from my post I will never know.

gimli2112

Chelsea

blueser wrote: »

"Nothing in it"? Watching Pogba's reaction to whatever Mourinho said to him, you seriously believe there's nothing in it?

Yeah seriously. I think they don't get on but they're hardly swinging at each other. You don't have to like people to work with them. Mountain and molehill imo. Hey, it's just an opinion.

Niles Crane

James Lawton who had a regular column in the Irish Independent on top of having a very illustrious and varied career before that died yesterday.

I always thought he was a terrific writer, just cut through the bull**** and his columns were always worth reading.

Harry Palmr

Man Utd

West Ham crisis over. Anderson seems to be finding his feet.

Johner

Chelsea

Beautiful finish by him. Jose in big trouble.

fyfe79

Man Utd

Is Jose sick of living in a hotel for 3 years without his family? Seems to me he's looking for the pay-off.

retalivity

fyfe79 wrote: »

Is Jose sick of living in a hotel for 3 years without his family? Seems to me he's looking for the pay-off.

A laughable excuse if true, tight backstard can well afford a house!

Agent Coulson

Chelsea

No match thread for the big game this morning?



Still expect Man U to come to life in the game and Hammer the Hammers.

Sprinter Sacre

Parking the bus against West Ham. Makes for grim viewing.

Spideog Rua

Sprinter Sacre wrote: »

Parking the bus against West Ham. Makes for grim viewing.

Huh?

GavRedKing

Man Utd

Agent Coulson wrote: »

No match thread for the big game this morning?



Still expect Man U to come to life in the game and Hammer the Hammers.

I felt the same last week when we played them.

They'll give up chances you just have to take them when they come.

Johner

Chelsea

What a goal. :pac:

Bye bye Jose.

Guy:Incognito

Southampton

That was a proxy waste of a shot and possesion that was going nowhere if lindeloff wasn't wandering by.

ricero

Chelsea

Ed Woodward looking on with the shades. Another spoofer.

ERG89

Great finish by Anderson who is capable when he's up for it. Rest of the half featured very little in the way of quality.

Sprinter Sacre

Zidane would be incredibly stupid to take the United job, even if they paid him Sanchez money

gimli2112

Chelsea

Just seen Utd have Chelsea at Stamford Bridge next, if they lose today it's going to be difficult to see him surviving a drubbing there. I dislike Jose, you can't argue with his success but can't ignore his spectacular failures either.

fullstop

gimli2112 wrote: »

Just seen Utd have Chelsea at Stamford Bridge next, if they lose today it's going to be difficult to see him surviving a drubbing there. I dislike Jose, you can't argue with his success but can't ignore his spectacular failures either.

Hopefully they give him time to turn things around

fullstop

Man Utd

fullstop wrote: »

Hopefully they give him time to turn things around

A 2-2 draw here would suffice

Harry Palmr

Man Utd

The Hammers actually have a very decent attack when everyone is fit - Yarmolenko, Arnie, Anderson and they'll get better the more they play.

klose

Shades of aspas

Johner

Chelsea

Ashley Aspas.

GLaDOS

Man Utd

Poor Aspas is scoring goals for fun in La Liga, but will always be remembered for that corner :pac:

j8wk2feszrnpao

Man Utd

ricero wrote: »

Ed Woodward looking on with the shades. Another spoofer.

Maybe Woodward was right not to back Jose. He’s brought in a fair bit of muck, hundreds of millions spent, discontent in the club, awful football (for the standard required), and looking like a mid table team.
Is he meant to drop another few hundred million before Jose stops moaning?

Mr.Nice Guy

Chelsea

munstermagic11 wrote: »

Maybe Woodward was right not to back Jose. He’s brought in a fair bit of muck, hundreds of millions spent, discontent in the club, awful football (for the standard required), and looking like a mid table team.
Is he meant to drop another few hundred million before Jose stops moaning?

Problem is he backed him with a contract extension months before deciding not to back him in the transfer market. A lot of clowns in this circus.

j8wk2feszrnpao

Man Utd

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Problem is he backed him with a contract extension months before deciding not to back him in the transfer market. A lot of clowns in this circus.

Who knows what’s going on behind the scenes. There is a lack of direction.

Johner

Chelsea

Brilliant save by Fabianski.

Johner

Chelsea

Lovely finish by Rashford. Game on.

Agent Coulson

Chelsea

Tactical genius Jose.

Johner

Chelsea

Smallings defending on Arnautovic is strange, keeps standing off him allowing him to do what he wants with it.

Johner

Chelsea

Lovely goal. 3-1.