Machete murder in Cork

Spanish Eyes

Look further North and a Limerick connection. His name was mentioned here and he lives in the area of the attack.

As for the motive. No idea. But someone knows.

Specialun

Mikenesson wrote: »

I don't think they made the kids watch according to reports

Im thinking he had dangerous foreign acquaintances,but merely speculating

Possible the wife is in fear and putting the gards off the scent,who knows

report claiming they did want kids to watch

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/killer-gang-wanted-children-to-witness-fathers-murder-wife-of-machete-murder-victim-tells-priest-37018964.html

_Whimsical_

It sounds like the victim was completely uninvolved in anything like this. As for the perpetrators if they aren't Irish it's possibly difficult to trace just who might have a violent past. I had a bit of a shock a few months ago when a foreign couple I've known for years had an argument and his wife was ranting about him and blurted out that the name everyone knows him under is actually a false name and that he's not from the country he claims to be from, all his papers are falsified. I had never even thought to suspect a thing of either of them and from his demeanour and based on the country he is from I'd feel sure he had his reasons for the deception. It gave me pause for thought though! I'd say it's easier to do that I would've thought.

Brae100

The wife said they spoke English with Cork accents. She has lived here long enough to be able to recognise local accents.

MyStubbleItches

Brae100 wrote: »

The wife said they spoke English with Cork accents. She has lived here long enough to be able to recognise local accents.

I'm wondering if they told her what to say, put them off the scent or else we'll come back for you and yours.

Brae100

The perpertrators spoke with local Cork accents. They chopped off his hands. There were rumours a few years ago that the deceased was involved in theivery. A serious lunatic from Cobh had moved to the area and who got a serious sentence for trying to import RPGs, but who is out now.

Polish lad maybe did something to cross this psycho. Off their tits on coke their retribution went too far.

SSr0

Brae100 wrote: »

The perpertrators spoke with local Cork accents. They chopped off his hands. There were rumours a few years ago that the deceased was involved in theivery. A serious lunatic from Cobh had moved to the area and who got a serious sentence for trying to import RPGs, but who is out now.

Polish lad maybe did something to cross this psycho. Off their tits on coke their retribution went too far.

Not being one bit smart here, but do you think you should tell the Gardaí that information? They might not a have a clue about it.

Rhys Essien

The last time I heard about machetes in Cork before this murder was from this story last September.Scroll down through the article and look at all the weapons on display.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/watch-irish-travellers-scary-call-11127267

And they are all only a few short miles away but they might have absolutely no connection.

Another thing,I don’t think his wife would know the difference between a Cork,Kerry,Limerick or Traveller accent in my opinion.

I hope the case doesn’t run dry and they catch the Psychos.

refusetolose

SSr0 wrote: »

Not being one bit smart here, but do you think you should tell the Gardaí that information? They might not a have a clue about it.

they'll know alright, he probably would have been one of the first people they suspected

refusetolose

https://twitter.com/CorkEveningEcho/status/1009797894092869632

The_Kew_Tour

Hope they are close to catching the killers

Wailin

Gardai can't find any motive at all, even after scouring the victims social media accounts, phone, emails etc. Anyone else think this might be racially motivated or a mistaken identity perpetrated by absolute pschyopaths?

refusetolose

Wailin wrote: »

Gardai can't find any motive at all, even after scouring the victims social media accounts, phone, emails etc. Anyone else think this might be racially motivated or a mistaken identity perpetrated by absolute pschyopaths?

where did ya hear this?

Roger Hassenforder

Wailin wrote: »

Gardai can't find any motive at all, even after scouring the victims social media accounts, phone, emails etc. Anyone else think this might be racially motivated or a mistaken identity perpetrated by absolute pschyopaths?

Heard the same locally
*One theory locally is its Russian mafia related, and was a message to someone else, rather than him being punished.
(*Could well be total b0110xs)
Its strange, theres been very little gossip/speculation. People seem shocked.

Hope they corner the fcukers, and they die in a hail of bullets from the ERU.

The_Kew_Tour

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Heard the same locally
*One theory locally is its Russian mafia related, and was a message to someone else, rather than him being punished.
(*Could well be total b0110xs)
Its strange, theres been very little gossip/speculation. People seem shocked.

Hope they corner the fcukers, and they die in a hail of bullets from the ERU.

Russian Mafia with Cork Accents

I Could be totally wrong but cant see it being that. But I have no clue so what do I know:(

JJJJNR

Theres a Fund page setup for the family for anyone wishing to donate.

There's no way this was committed by an Irish person, we value children to much. If it was I’ve lost all hope.

Pelvis

JJJJNR wrote: »

There's no way this was committed by an Irish person, we value children to much. If it was I’ve lost all hope.

Jesus christ, of all the places to say this about, Ireland is NOT one of them.

Strazdas

Wailin wrote: »

Gardai can't find any motive at all, even after scouring the victims social media accounts, phone, emails etc. Anyone else think this might be racially motivated or a mistaken identity perpetrated by absolute pschyopaths?

One theory that has been suggested is that it might even be mistaken identity ie. the killers targeted the wrong house or went after the wrong person. They might have been acting on behalf of someone else and not realised they were attacking the wrong man.

Wailin

The poor man and his family. Absolutely shocking crime and I hope they get the ****ers. Not looking likely though.

Mikenesson

Wailin wrote: »

The poor man and his family. Absolutely shocking crime and I hope they get the ****ers. Not looking likely though.

Vehicles seized and properties been searched

Presumably the Garda have a theory so

Convictions still prob unlikely

enricoh

Notorious Baltic gang at the centre of machete murder probe over '€50,000 dispute'

That was in the Indo today, apparently a few scumbags flew in to kill the poor guy. Their accomplices are still knocking around cork. Nice folk to have as neighbours.

Mikenesson

The wife has fled the country, was it she said they spoke fluent English ?

Presumably under duress

Rumour he stumbled on something drug related at work and fell foul of the gang

Mikenesson

It doesn't sound like it

It sounds like a debt was imposed and he didn't pay but I'm guessing of course

Mikenesson

Mikenesson wrote: »

The wife has fled the country, was it she said they spoke fluent English ?

Presumably under duress

Rumour he stumbled on something drug related at work and fell foul of the gang

Its a bit sensational to say the wife has "fled the country". Would you not just say she has gone home where she would have support from family and friends. Also Polish healthcare is vastly superior to our own.

Mikenesson

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Its a bit sensational to say the wife has "fled the country". Would you not just say she has gone home where she would have support from family and friends. Also Polish healthcare is vastly superior to our own.

Prob in fear of her life and kids tbh after what happened

draiochtanois

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draiochtanois

draiochtanois wrote: »

Except it's not. Average life expectancy in Ireland is over 4 years higher.

In a comprehensive study performed by Lancet Ireland comes number 13 globally and Poland at number 39.

Source: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(17)30818-8/abstract

The disparity in life expectancy I would put down to the poverty and much harsher winter than we experience here. Ive experienced Polish healthcare and there are some things they do much better than us. I spent an hour in A&E and got triaged, treated and sent on my way inside you hour. My partner was sent for an x-ray, and similarly was back within the hour with the X-ray.

Elizabeta is going to need lots of after care and rehab. I know which country I'd rather recieve that treatment in.

Mikenesson

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Its a bit sensational to say the wife has "fled the country". Would you not just say she has gone home where she would have support from family and friends. Also Polish healthcare is vastly superior to our own.

It was funny how you called me sensationalist

And then proceeded to say polish healthcare is vastly superior to ours

draiochtanois

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Rows Grower

JJJJNR wrote: »

Theres a Fund page setup for the family for anyone wishing to donate.

There's no way this was committed by an Irish person, we value children to much. If it was I’ve lost all hope.

Latest reports are suggesting a criminal from Cork along with two criminals from eastern Europe were responsible.

They were captured on CCTV together in a shop and are thought to have fled the country soon afterwards.

Rows Grower

Up to 15 Gardai have been given counselling to help them deal with the trauma of having attended the murder scene.

It has been described as like something from a horror film and the worst that many experienced officers have ever seen.

The hunt for the killers is ongoing.

Mango Joe

What a horrific case - Has there been any developments since?

tretorn

Inquest was postponed today until next April because Garda Inquiry is ongoing.

Redneck Culchie

Rows Grower wrote: »

Up to 15 Gardai have been given counselling to help them deal with the trauma of having attended the murder scene.

It has been described as like something from a horror film and the worst that many experienced officers have ever seen.

The hunt for the killers is ongoing.

Frightening stuff. The evil in this country is off the scale.

KevinCavan

Redneck Culchie wrote: »

Frightening stuff. The evil in this country is off the scale.

Not much to do with the evil in this country apart from Cork natives escorting the foreign criminals to the murder scene and away from it after the brutal attack.

refusetolose

https://twitter.com/RedFMNews/status/1087740823091986432

refusetolose

https://twitter.com/breakingnewsie/status/1087749427564081152

The Enbalmer

An argument over money,a woman or real estate most likely.

moceri

The Enbalmer wrote: »

An argument over money,a woman or real estate most likely.

Or possibly a crime ring operating a stolen macherinery operation, cut up and parts exported. We're these the details in the black ledgers Elzbieta was trying to destroy when she ran to the shed during the attack? When you sup with the devil, you need a long spoon.

paw patrol

moceri wrote: »

Or possibly a crime ring operating a stolen macherinery operation, cut up and parts exported. We're these the details in the black ledgers Elzbieta was trying to destroy when she ran to the shed during the attack? When you sup with the devil, you need a long spoon.

never heard this mentioned before....care to elaborate

SEPT 23 1989

Would you hang around over here if you committed a crime like that?

enricoh

I wish the cops luck getting info out of any of those arrested.
When they know what happened the victim, i reckon they'll take their chances with the irish legal system instead!

Roger Hassenforder

moceri wrote: »

Or possibly a crime ring operating a stolen macherinery operation, cut up and parts exported. We're these the details in the black ledgers Elzbieta was trying to destroy when she ran to the shed during the attack? When you sup with the devil, you need a long spoon.

Wha?

JP Liz V1

The Enbalmer wrote: »

An argument over money,a woman or real estate most likely.

Or drugs?

The Enbalmer

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Or drugs?

See real estate and money.

Real estate can refer to the tiny bit of ground you're taking up by standing..it can also refer to an area where deeds legal and illegal can occur and the "right" to commit those deeds.

Rows Grower

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/garda-arrest-fourth-person-as-part-of-mikolaj-wilk-murder-investigation-38000795.html