Jailed for putting up a Racist Sticker Political Correctness gone mad

Dr Brown

Odhinn wrote: »

Why is it you think nazis should have freedom of speech, but not muslims?

I have never heard of Muslims being jailed for putting up stickers.

Dr Brown

Birneybau wrote: »

Would a sticker saying 'Kill All Jews/Dubs/Irish/Whites/Men/Women/Whatever you are yourself' just be a sticker?

Cop on

From the reports none of those stickers put up called for violence.

Dr Brown

Odhinn wrote: »

...except the OP, who has called for Islam to be banned.

Absolutely given that Islam is responsible for mass rape and almost daily terrorism we need stop it getting a foot hold in Ireland.

But that does not mean shutting down freedom of speech.


We need a better Immigration policy to deal with the problem of Islam.

Stephen15

Dr Brown wrote: »

I have never heard of Muslims being jailed for putting up stickers.

No arrests made for enforcing Sharia Law. Anjem Choudary is out this year too free to hate preach while Tommy is denied the right to speak the truth.

Geert Wilders summed it up he said that he doesn't support banning books since Mein Kampf got banned in the Netherlands which was applauded by the left then so should the Qur'an which is equally as hateful however the left have put their usual tags on him such as Islamphobe and a Racist even though a phobia is irrational fear and it's perfectly rational to fear a 7th century ideology which wants global dominance and Islam is not a race.

Nettle Soup

Ipso wrote: »

It may be old but should it be illegal?
White supremacists are knobs, but making martyrs of them won’t help.
The next time a bunch of grown men lose the plot over a Satanic Verses or cartoon, will they be jailed?

Martyrs die.

LaChatteGitane

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Or we could just not slag them on their appearance.

Seriously though, if it was a bunch of young wans, complete with blue hair and feminist slogans, or blacks lads with Black Lives Matter banners, people would call out people slagging them based on what they look like.

So either slag noone, or slag everyone.

I'm in no way defending these fools, before anyone even thinks I am.

Ach, chill !
I am the last person on earth who would slag people off or laugh at anyone's appearance. These fools however ? You do know what the supremacy stands for, I presume.
We could talk about their intellect, but that would be a non starter.:pac:

FingerDeKat

The Ghost Train wrote: »

Good to see the Brit cops go after the thought criminals. Be nice if they would do something about the Pakistani rape gangs but oh well, can't have everything.

88HH:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Odhinn

Dr Brown wrote: »

I have never heard of Muslims being jailed for putting up stickers.

Dr Brown wrote:

Islam is a VERY dangerous religion and should be banned. IMO.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=106897139&postcount=1498

Dr Brown wrote:

Absolutely given that Islam is responsible for mass rape and almost daily terrorism we need stop it getting a foot hold in Ireland.

But that does not mean shutting down freedom of speech.

Banning Islam means you shut down freedom of speech.

Dr Brown wrote:

While I don't support this group I think everyone should have the right to freedom of speech.

Evidently "everyone" extends to racist far right members of a banned organisation but not over a billion members of a religion you have no time for.

Stephen15

Odhinn wrote: »

Banning Islam means you shut down freedom of speech.

Evidently "everyone" extends to racist far right members of a banned organisation but not over a billion members of a religion you have no time for.

It's quite simple either ban Facism and Islam or don't ban either. Both preach hate

eyerer

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

Dr Brown wrote: »

This week it was  "white supremacists" who were jailed for their political beliefs next time it could be UKIP supporters.

"First they came for the white supremacists, and I spoke out. Because I am also a white supremacist."

Brilliant, laughed out loud

Odhinn

Stephen15 wrote: »

It's quite simple either ban Facism and Islam or don't ban either. Both preach hate

Islam as a term - much like "protestantism" - covers a vast multitude of views.

Zebra3

SnakePlissken wrote: »

Whenever someone claims Tommy Robinson to be a racist they never provide a direct quote to substantiate their claim, but I've great faith in you, you're going to be different and post a racist quote attributed to the guy from a reputable source.

He’s a self-proclaimed Zionist. Zionism is a political ideology that native Palestinians should be ethnically cleansed from their homeland to make way for foreigners.

He’s also a supporter of the British army, one of the leading fanatically racist terrorist organisations over the last 200-300 years.

Zebra3

Dr Brown wrote: »

Absolutely given that Islam is responsible for mass rape and almost daily terrorism we need stop it getting a foot hold in Ireland.

But that does not mean shutting down freedom of speech.


We need a better Immigration policy to deal with the problem of Islam.

Would you support the proscribing of the RC Church as well as FF/FG/Labour who all facilitated their terror?

Stephen15

Odhinn wrote: »

Islam as a term - much like "protestantism" - covers a vast multitude of views.

So you can have a 'Moderate Muslim' but you can't have a 'Moderate Facist'. Muslims interpret the Qur'an to suit their beliefs so can Fascists interpret Mein Kampf to suit their beliefs and views

JohnMc1

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

You guys and your white identity. Does it ever get old?.

Its not our fault that we are clearly superior in every way.

SnakePlissken

FTA69 wrote: »

Nah we just point out that he was in the BNP and supports Generation Identity, whereupon people like you trot out some mad excuse as to how he was a member of and current supporter of racist organisations.

You don't find it highly unusual that for such a supposed racist with incredibly detailed social media history, you can't mine a single quote from his past that would prove him to be racist?

Timberrrrrrrr

SnakePlissken wrote: »

You don't find it highly unusual that for such a supposed racist with incredibly detailed social media history, you can't mine a single quote from his past that would prove him to be racist?

I grew up in the UK in the 70's. Where my great grandmother lived they built a new estate and several black families moved into the area. My great grandmother never ever used a racist term about them but would cross the street if she seen a black person walking towards her.

She would refer to them as the foreigners or just "them from over the road" and at one point refuse to use her local post office because a black woman got a job there.

To me she was a racist because of her beliefs even though she never used racist language. Tommy Robinson is of the same mindset. You don't have to publicly use racist language to be a racist.

FTA69

SnakePlissken wrote: »

You don't find it highly unusual that for such a supposed racist with incredibly detailed social media history, you can't mine a single quote from his past that would prove him to be racist?

So why is he supporting Generation Identity if he doesn’t agree with their beliefs? An organisation which wants to repatriate non-whites?

It’s gas like, cos no video exists of him jumping up and down shouting about blacks or whatever you’re prepared to ignore his political support for very blatant racist organisations as if it never happened or if it isn’t happening.

SnakePlissken

Zebra3 wrote: »

Zionism is a political ideology that native Palestinians should be ethnically cleansed from their homeland to make way for foreigners.

In the current state of Israel which has existed for almost a century, who are the natives in your hypothesis? And who are the foreigners? Is one who was born in Israel to parents who were also born in Israel not "native" in your eyes if they happen to be Jewish.

Ethnic cleansing is all too real when one only looks at the decimation of Jewish peoples throughout every middle eastern nation over the past century, whilst in Israel, 1,500,000 of the population are Muslims with equal rights and opportunites.

SnakePlissken

FTA69 wrote: »

An organisation which wants to repatriate non-whites?.

Can you provide a reputable source for this claim please?

It's just I don't see this mentioned anywhere on their website.

Timberrrrrrrr

SnakePlissken wrote: »

In the current state of Israel which has existed for almost a century, who are the natives in your hypothesis? And who are the foreigners? Is one who was born in Israel to parents who were also born in Israel not "native" in your eyes if they happen to be Jewish.

Ethnic cleansing is all too real when one only looks at the decimation of Jewish peoples throughout every middle eastern nation over the past century, whilst in Israel, 1,500,000 of the population are Muslims with equal rights and opportunites.

Really?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel#Civil_rights

The Israeli Declaration of Independencestated that the State of Israel would ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex, and guaranteed freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture. 

The Arab citizens of Israel live in a reality in which they experience discrimination as Arabs. This inequality has been documented in a large number of professional surveys and studies, has been confirmed in court judgments and government resolutions, and has also found expression in reports by the state comptroller and in other official documents. 

Plenty more proof on there and other sites that shows Muslims/Arabs certainly do not have equal rights and opportunities in Israel.

FTA69

SnakePlissken wrote: »

Can you provide a reputable source for this claim please?

It's just I don't see this mentioned anywhere on their website.

They are calling for the denigration of legal immigrants and those who don't conform to their ethnopluralism.

https://www.generation-identity.org.uk/demands/

Sellner himself has spoken about identity in terms of "biology".

Zebra3

SnakePlissken wrote: »

In the current state of Israel which has existed for almost a century, who are the natives in your hypothesis? And who are the foreigners? Is one who was born in Israel to parents who were also born in Israel not "native" in your eyes if they happen to be Jewish.

Ethnic cleansing is all too real when one only looks at the decimation of Jewish peoples throughout every middle eastern nation over the past century, whilst in Israel, 1,500,000 of the population are Muslims with equal rights and opportunites.

What the hell has any of this (some of it lies) got to do with “Tommy Robinson” being a racist?

RDM_83 again

First I do think these guys should at a minimum be on a watchlist and I don't think there is a massive issue with them being jailed.

Grayson wrote: »

Sure they do. Maybe if you actually googled this crap rather than going by what your head makes up, you wouldn't look so silly.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4569388/banned-terror-groups-uk-national-action/

FTA69 wrote: »

This is just a typical deflection from the far right as usual. "Oh it's only freedom of speech, so what if they're an illegal organisation plotting murders etc". However this absolute belief in freedom of speech never seems to apply to Islamists, then it's all "close the Mosques", "ban the Quran", "ban the burqa", "deport them", "lock them up" etc.

Total hypocrisy like, if you don't support freedom of speech for Anjem Choudhary or Abu Hamza etc them you've no right to call for freedom of speech for National Action.

Thing is though I would argue that there is plenty of hypocrisy going around, take a look at that list of organizations, if putting up a sticker for a banned groups (with histories of violence) warrants this, remembering the conspiracy to murder are individual charges, why is flag waving for groups considered the equivalent by the government ok?


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So while I can say yeah it's probably in keeping with the law to jail these guys, I would ask the some of the posters here who have suddenly become firm believers in the British justice system in the last few months why they aren't calling for loads of people at protests to be nicked on similar charges