Turning very warm/hot, heatwave conditions likely; Sunday 24th -->

Cantona's Collars · 22-06-2018 12:04pm

Pangea wrote: »

Were you in Donegal on Tuesday? If not you missed rainfall of epic proportions.

Tens of thousands of acres of grain crops,grass, vegetables on the East side of the country that have gotten a bit of drizzle once or twice in a long time. It barely wet the leaves,let alone dampen the ground. Farmers down my way are already pumping water out of the Slaney to water crops.

A Fridge too Far · 22-06-2018 12:18pm

I have family in the South of Spain where it can go months without raining, yet they seem to produce half the vegetables eaten in Europe. It's quite an arid landscape. Anyway a local was telling me they've been using some water systems that have been around since the Roman times, and you never hear any talk of drought.
How come a few weeks of no rain in Ireland causes such panic, when we get so much throughout the year?

sryanbruen · 22-06-2018 12:19pm

Cantona's Collars · 22-06-2018 12:24pm

A Fridge too Far wrote: »

I have family in the South of Spain where it can go months without raining, yet they seem to produce half the vegetables eaten in Europe. It's quite an arid landscape. Anyway a local was telling me they've been using some water systems that have been around since the Roman times, and you never hear any talk of drought.
How come a few weeks of no rain in Ireland causes such panic, when we get so much throughout the year?

The Romans never made it to Ireland.

No forward thinking here like they had.

Gonzo · 22-06-2018 1:06pm

Accuweather (for what it's worth) is showing temperatures above 21C every day in County Meath from tomorrow till July 7th. There is likely to be be some showers next weekend then back to high pressure for the following week.

Cows Go µ · 22-06-2018 1:36pm

A Fridge too Far wrote: »

I have family in the South of Spain where it can go months without raining, yet they seem to produce half the vegetables eaten in Europe. It's quite an arid landscape. Anyway a local was telling me they've been using some water systems that have been around since the Roman times, and you never hear any talk of drought.
How come a few weeks of no rain in Ireland causes such panic, when we get so much throughout the year?

What would be the point in wasting the effort of putting in water systems like that in a country that normally has constant rainfall? Yeah, every now and then we get a heatwave but more often than not we don't really go long enough without rain to justify it.

Can't wait for the nice weather. I'm off Wednesday to Friday next week and will be outside the whole time so really looking forward to it (and will probably get burnt to a crisp knowing me). I was in the middle of moving house last time so was too busy to enjoy the last wave of nice weather

Akrasia · 22-06-2018 2:15pm

A Fridge too Far wrote: »

I have family in the South of Spain where it can go months without raining, yet they seem to produce half the vegetables eaten in Europe. It's quite an arid landscape. Anyway a local was telling me they've been using some water systems that have been around since the Roman times, and you never hear any talk of drought.
How come a few weeks of no rain in Ireland causes such panic, when we get so much throughout the year?

Because they're adapted to the conditions. Ireland could spend billions on irrigation systems for our farms, but generally, we get that from rain so unless drought becomes a regular feature of our climate, it's not worth the cost to build and maintain those systems.

ESMITH29 · 22-06-2018 2:22pm

With the extended cold and wet conditions earlier in the year leading to late planting and now this, I'd imagine farmers are under serious pressure.

A Fridge too Far · 22-06-2018 2:22pm

Akrasia wrote: »

Because they're adapted to the conditions. Ireland could spend billions on irrigation systems for our farms, but generally, we get that from rain so unless drought becomes a regular feature of our climate, it's not worth the cost to build and maintain those systems.

I find it hard to believe it would cost billions to have a water system, in rainy Ireland, that could keep us covered during a few weeks of no rain. But I'm no civil engineer! It probably just highlights how wasteful we are as a society, with water, and everything else mind.

cherryghost · 22-06-2018 2:25pm

NAVGEM still on vacation, wants to do 30+ all week in central counties, tipping 34/35 Weds/Thurs/Fri

Kermit.de.frog · 22-06-2018 2:39pm

Should have time to update the OP later. (or a new thread if posters prefer)

Very warm over the weekend and hot really from Tuesday onward and we are trending the direction where records could be challenged if temperatures get to the low thirties. Locally high twenties may break records as well.

Not only temperature to be wary of but it is drought conditions as well. I certainly know the grass is not happy here in north Dublin!

Gonzo · 22-06-2018 2:51pm

today is the last of the 'cool' days and it already feels very pleasant outside, with almost unbroken sunshine, a real peach of a day.

Just think of it, today is Baltic compared to what is heading our way for next week!

munsterlegend · 22-06-2018 2:59pm

It's a glorious afternoon in north cork. Warm but not excessively so even with no breeze. Next week should be epic.

irishfeen · 22-06-2018 3:05pm

munsterlegend wrote: »

It's a glorious afternoon in north cork. Warm but not excessively so even with no breeze. Next week should be epic.

Humidity only at 37% knocks the excessive heat off it. 19 DegC now just south of Mallow.

pad199207 · 22-06-2018 3:06pm

20c in Kildare now. Feels lovely due to low humidity

Oneiric 3 · 22-06-2018 3:13pm

National % of average rainfall totals over the last 30 days now standing at just 46% despite the fact that there was some heavy rain around earlier in the week. For June alone, Dublin Apt is still only on 4.8mm, which contrasts hugely with Mount Dillon which has already exceeded its monthly average and which shows just how sporadic and localised the rainfall has been this month.

Thinking of opening a 'drought watch' thread later to keep tabs on rainfall totals (or lack of) as they are becoming notable at this stage, all the more so since we have heatwave conditions coming up, which will do nothing but enhance any potential impacts.

All data from Met Eireann.

sryanbruen · 22-06-2018 3:30pm

NAVGEM's brother

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pauldry · 22-06-2018 3:48pm

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

National % of average rainfall totals over the last 30 days now standing at just 46% despite the fact that there was some heavy rain around earlier in the week. For June alone, Dublin Apt is still only on 4.8mm, which contrasts hugely with Mount Dillon which has already exceeded its monthly average and which shows just how sporadic and localised the rainfall has been this month.

Thinking of opening a 'drought watch' thread later to keep tabs on rainfall totals (or lack of) as they are becoming notable at this stage, all the more so since we have heatwave conditions coming up, which will do nothing but enhance any potential impacts.

All data from Met Eireann.

In Sligo town we have had 33.3mm of rain in the past 30 days

I generally estimate 100mm as Normal here in the exposed NW

19.6mm of this was from Tuesdays apparent deluge

Soil moisture deficit here is now below 15mm again but in Carlow its nearer 80mm

Ms2011 · 22-06-2018 4:14pm

Gonzo wrote: »

today is the last of the 'cool' days and it already feels very pleasant outside, with almost unbroken sunshine, a real peach of a day.

Just think of it, today is Baltic compared to what is heading our way for next week!

I've just finished cutting my grass & I nearly passed out with the heat, I'm not prepared for next week

charlietheminxx · 22-06-2018 4:38pm

I've just invited a heap of people around for Saturday 30 June for a BBQ. I'm guessing that's the day North Dublin will get a thunderstorm and heavy rain

Lovely models, really interesting year weather wise.

sryanbruen · 22-06-2018 5:04pm

UKMO 12z is an upgrade from its 12z run yesterday. The ridge is more intensified over us.

EDIT: Good grief!

Mobhi1 · 22-06-2018 5:05pm

Ms2011 wrote: »

I've just finished cutting my grass & I nearly passed out with the heat, I'm not prepared for next week

No grass left here to cut, just daisies.

Kermit.de.frog · 22-06-2018 5:07pm

Only trending warmer next week so far on this afternoon's models. I'd expect to see 30c exceeded in some inland parts based on the UKMO in the second half of the week. Not out of the question could be touching 30, or just shy, by Tuesday.

Lucreto · 22-06-2018 5:31pm

Nice enough today but absolutely dreading next week if the predicted temperatures are correct.

BLIZZARD7 · 22-06-2018 5:37pm

sryanbruen wrote: »

UKMO 12z is an upgrade from its 12z run yesterday. The ridge is more intensified over us.

EDIT: Good grief!

It's going to feel very warm to hot next week, even in exposed coastal areas at times.

hinault · 22-06-2018 5:40pm

Two weeks ago we had a couple of days of practically continuous rain. As soon as there is rainfall here, there is surface water everywhere.

I know that rainfall amounts since May have been low, but when we get a heavy shower of rain, it becomes immediately apparent that the water table in the surface is high.

I don't know how anyone could ascribe a drought to Ireland. The absence of rainfall for a few weeks doesn't mean that there is a drought in Ireland, as evidenced by the water table.

sryanbruen · 22-06-2018 5:50pm

GEM is also a scorcher.

Oneiric 3 · 22-06-2018 5:52pm

hinault wrote: »

I don't know how anyone could ascribe a drought to Ireland. The absence of rainfall for a few weeks doesn't mean that there is a drought in Ireland, as evidenced by the water table.

Well clearly, having read the concerns of an actual farmer on here a couple of days ago, low rainfall has a significant impact on crops etc. We don't live in the southern Europe were low rainfalls in summer are commonplace and lifestyle and agriculture aspects are well adapted for.

Akrasia · 22-06-2018 6:20pm

A Fridge too Far wrote: »

I find it hard to believe it would cost billions to have a water system, in rainy Ireland, that could keep us covered during a few weeks of no rain. But I'm no civil engineer! It probably just highlights how wasteful we are as a society, with water, and everything else mind.

There are 136000 farms in Ireland. If each one of them had to spend 10k on putting an irrigation system, that's 1.3 billion. given that the average farm is about a hundred acres, 10k is a huge understatement for how much it would cost to install a drought proof irrigation system not to mention the cost of building more reservoirs to store water for when we have prolonged periods without rain.

22-06-2018 6:37pm

hinault wrote: »

Two weeks ago we had a couple of days of practically continuous rain. As soon as there is rainfall here, there is surface water everywhere.

I know that rainfall amounts since May have been low, but when we get a heavy shower of rain, it becomes immediately apparent that the water table in the surface is high.

I don't know how anyone could ascribe a drought to Ireland. The absence of rainfall for a few weeks doesn't mean that there is a drought in Ireland, as evidenced by the water table.

I would suggest that surface water after heavy rain recently was due to water running off hard ground rather than a high water table. That was certainly the case in my area anyway. It's why in a drought, steady drizzle is far more welcome than heavy rain, as heavy rain just runs off hard surfaces and gathers in certain areas.

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