Turning very warm/hot, heatwave conditions likely; Sunday 24th -->

Oscar Bravo

Im watching it. some glow in the sky! great shot

Gaoth Laidir

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

You are missing my point entirely.

Is 54 degrees on a Spanish street inaccurate? How do we know either way if there is no official station there to recorded it?

Let's agree to agree to disagree.

Gaoth Laidir

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

On June 8th, the two nearest official station to me recorded 0.6mm and 0.0mm. Representative? I recorded 24.4mm that day and nearly all in an hour, but because this isn't official, it did not occur at all (which is basically the logic I am dealing with here) and . maybe it didn't, maybe I imagined the whole thing. I mean, Claremorris got 0.0mm that day, which is the only thing that matters.

You're talking about station density now, which I agree is never enough. You can't have a station in every square kilometre, though, and when it comes to heavy showers, 1 km can and does make a huge difference to rainfall figures. Over a long time period, however, this will even itself out. Anomalously high temperatures due to poor siting, type and exposure of temperature sensors, however, will not.

Mobhi1

According to the satellite picture the cloud comes up from Biscay and goes up over Ireland and into Scotland almost completely bypassing England and Wales. There does appear to be a clearance behind it. I wonder what was the cause of it in an area of high pressure.

pad199207

Still just nudging 20c in Kildare

DanielL18

Taken 30 mins ago in West Cork. Rainbow is visible in one of the photos.

Gaoth Laidir

Mobhi1 wrote: »

According to the satellite picture the cloud comes up from Biscay and goes up over Ireland and into Scotland almost completely bypassing England and Wales. There does appear to be a clearance behind it. I wonder what was the cause of it in an area of high pressure.

It was orographic cloud forming related to high terrain in northern Spain.

Rougies

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

What does it matter though if the infrastructure around your home place is altered again? True, it might have an influence on future readings but in weather like this, the present temperature is all matters to most people. As said by someone above, Met stations give a very small idea of the temps out in the countryside. Of course, for climatological purposes, this is very useful indeed, but my point, and I will stress it again, is that the current network is not very representative at all for what most people experience.

As for air mass temps, you have a point, but even still, consider that in a basic westerly Pm air mass over the country at this time of year can still bring significant temp variations across the country, with more inland and eastern regions still been able to get temps into the low 20s while the west coast can struggle to get to just 15c. It's all about location.

I think most people understand that point and I'm sure (EDIT)you understand the reasoning behind the locations of the current weather stations, so I'm a bit confused as to what you are trying to get across.

We can't have a weather station every square meter (yet, the nanobot weather stations of the future are still in development in my lab), and temperatures in urban weather stations would be subject to a huge amount of local variables eg. size, height of buildings, height/angle of sun, wind speed/direction, building materials, cloud cover etc.

I do believe that NWP will get to the point where urban micro climates are modeled more accurately but that is many years away. So in the meantime in terms of both forecasting and data collection I don't really see a viable solution to the problem.

DOCARCH

In Florida at the moment (Gulf Coast). Missing all the heat craic at home. Only consolation is that it's 33c here atm and just waiting on a thunderstorm to roll in.

Kermit.de.frog

DOCARCH wrote: »

In Florida at the moment (Gulf Coast). Missing all the heat craic at home. Only consolation is that it's 33c here atm and just waiting on a thunderstorm to roll in.

Thinly veiled "i'm on holiday :P "

DOCARCH

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Thinly veiled "i'm on holiday :P "

Well....yeah! :-)

Kermit.de.frog

Latest GFS bringing the thundery low pressure up from Biscay later in the weekend and dragging in more warm air from the continent ahead of it. This would be entertaining storm wise.

esposito

DOCARCH wrote: »

In Florida at the moment (Gulf Coast). Missing all the heat craic at home. Only consolation is that it's 33c here atm and just waiting on a thunderstorm to roll in.

Hopefully we get to see some of our own thunderstorms next week moving up from the Bay of Biscay.

squarecircles

A hot day and hot night in Westport on Wednesday.
low twenties at 2am !
potentially reaching 33:eek:

mickger844posts

DOCARCH wrote: »

In Florida at the moment (Gulf Coast). Missing all the heat craic at home. Only consolation is that it's 33c here atm and just waiting on a thunderstorm to roll in.

But home heat is so much more enjoyable than holiday heat just as much as snow at home is better than snow abroad. Enjoy it all anyway:D

Say my name

Is it raining in Kerry and Clare atm?

_Dara_

Was quite dull in Dublin 15 from mid-afternoon onwards. No forecast I’ve looked at is saying that there will be wall-to-wall sun any day.

JCX BXC

Say my name wrote: »

Is it raining in Kerry and Clare atm?

No it's not

False radar returns, ignore all it says this week.

DOCARCH

mickger844posts wrote: »

But home heat is so much more enjoyable than holiday heat just as much as snow at home is better than snow abroad. Enjoy it all anyway:D

Oh I know....I meant it when i said I'm missing 'the craic'....missing have my eyes glued to the Davis. You can't beat any weather extremes at home.

Oneiric 3

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

You're talking about station density now, which I agree is never enough. You can't have a station in every square kilometre, though, and when it comes to heavy showers, 1 km can and does make a huge difference to rainfall figures. Over a long time period, however, this will even itself out. Anomalously high temperatures due to poor siting, type and exposure of temperature sensors, however, will not.

Over a long period means very little when it comes to individual events. If my younger self came back in 50 years and scanned the data for June 8th 2018, I would be given the impression that no such event occurred here, because it wasn't officially recorded.

I was talking about station density from the start. And you are right, we are not going to agree, so best we drop it.

Say my name

JCX BXC wrote: »

No it's not

False radar returns, ignore all it says this week.

Must be the midges so..

Larbre34

Gonzo wrote: »

looks like we have seen the peak of it here on the east coast. Cooler onshore east breezes on the east coast over the next few days bring temps back to the low to mid 20's over the next few days.

Good, ill be reading a book on Donabate beach if anyone wants me.

Oneiric 3

squarecircles wrote: »

A hot day and hot night in Westport on Wednesday.
low twenties at 2am !
potentially reaching 33:eek:

Tomorrow will be the day to see just how accurate this model is regarding temps. It has been very consistent now for the last couple of days, so maybe it has picked up on some finer detail that the global models missed. For me, ECM says 26c, Harmonie says 33c. Let's see which one is closer the mark.

JCX BXC

Met Eireann have 32c for me tomorrow and 33c for me on Wednesday. Wow.

bodice ripper

Saw a bit of a sundog on the way up the m1 at 2045 today.

SleetAndSnow

Walking around cork city all night, just in now. Was able to walk around in shorts and T-shirt and it’s still warm. It’s about 17 degrees still.

Both the councils cut the grass today. Most areas are totally yellow grass now with a few green patches.

Lovely sunset aswell!

Gonzo

The UK forecast services going for an on-going cooling of temperatures from the the east after Thursday with temperatures lowering day by day back to the high teens and low twenties max by the beginning of next week almost everywhere.

SleetAndSnow

Gonzo wrote: »

The UK forecast services going for an on-going cooling of temperatures from the the east after Thursday with temperatures lowering day by day back to the high teens and low twenties max by the beginning of next week almost everywhere.

ME website has 18 degrees and Rain for cork on Monday

Oneiric 3

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

ME website has 18 degrees and Rain for cork on Monday

Enjoy the moment for what it is man! that is a hell of a long way off yet. (too long imo!)

Kermit.de.frog

Gonzo wrote: »

The UK forecast services going for an on-going cooling of temperatures from the the east after Thursday with temperatures lowering day by day back to the high teens and low twenties max by the beginning of next week almost everywhere.

Eastern England certainly will see temps lowering off the north sea but probably only temporarily. Winds look set to go southeasterly off the continent again by Sunday and that would bring a rise in temperatures again.

Ireland will more than likely get to Saturday with high twenties maximums before cooling off back to low twenties. West is best this time.

It all depends on the LP moving up from the south and how that's going to be orientated for the start of the following week. That could end up being a heat pump for us or it could be the open door for the Atlantic weather systems but we don't know yet.