Was Alan Sugar being racist?

Brae100

Alan Sugar tweeted a photoshopped picture of the Senegalese team with an array of goods that Africans typically try to sell to tourists in Spain. He has since deleted the tweet and apologised. But was it actually racist? I'd argue that it was more stereotypical than racist.

Lazy, I reckon. Quite dated too.

buried

'Lord Sugar' lol England is f**king finished man

kneemos

Would he not be embarrassed having folk call him Lord?

DickSwiveller

I thought it was funny. I see the outrage brigade went after him

_Dara_

He was a bit. Zero fucks given though, I’d say!

s7ryf3925pivug

kneemos wrote: »

Would he not be embarrassed having folk call him Lord?

I reckon no, as he refers to himself that way in his twitter handle.

pleas advice

everythings racist now, Father

Pelvis

I don't think it was racist, just really really stupid.

ednwireland

Casual racism. Never good see he's apologised and deleted tweet, pretty much proves that public figures shouldn't have access to Twitter.

odyssey06

Overtly racist no.
Racially insensitive yes.

FTA69

Errah a bit patronising and stereotypical, I wouldn't even be bothered but Sugar himself was jumping up and down like a lunatic over a load of spurious anti-Semitic stuff not so long back so he can jog on with his 'you're all too soft' commentary.

Your Face

It's not racist.
Its not funny.
It is a bit insulting to those players though.

EPAndlee

There's a thin line between racism and having the craic

Zebra3

kneemos wrote: »

Would he not be embarrassed having folk call him Lord?

Pro-establishment scum love all that crap whereby they feel even more superior to the plebs.

So glad we don't have any of that crap here.

What we need next is a law removing the use of the word "Royal" from the title name of institutions within the state.

Goes totally against the principles of equality that a republic espouses.

Your Face

EPAndlee wrote: »

There's a thin line between the craic

Good heavens.

Guy:Incognito

Everything is racist.

McMurphy

Looky looky boy.

mfceiling

If the twitter "right on" brigade get behind this then he's fùcked.
They'll hound him til the next "moral crusade" comes along.

FTA69

kneemos wrote: »

Would he not be embarrassed having folk call him Lord?

He loves it. Despite all his waffle about being an ordinary East End lad he's a horribly elitist little prick. I can't f*cking stand him, he was moaning the other day that Corbyn was the devil incarnate for "trying to cool the housing market". Imagine the audacity of a Labour leader not wanting people paying half a million to the likes of Alan Sugar for a one bed flat!

Bonzo Delaney

Where the tweet about the Nigerian team refunding their supporters for their poor performance just send on your full bank details to receive the refund.

Oh yeah it was funny because no one "famous " tweeted it
Jesus if we can't see the funny side to the odd stereotypical joke were fuped altogether.

Zebra3

Maybe someone famous will post up a photo of the English team with loads of dead Iraqi and Afghanistani kids in front of them.

See how many people think it's just "the craic" then.

DickSwiveller

Zebra3 wrote: »

Maybe someone famous will post up a photo of the English team with loads of dead Iraqi and Afghanistani kids in front of them.

See how many people think it's just "the craic" then.

Right........

DickSwiveller

Seriously though, what was he thinking? Surely he could've predicted the snowflake meltdown on Twatter. I'd be surprised if he keeps his job on the Apprentice

meeeeh

It's a bit stereotypical. I'm not black African so I really don't care and I suspect a lot of them don't either. The joke itself is rubbish. It will keep people who search Twitter for stuff to be offended by busy for a day.

Atlantic Dawn

A lot of the lads selling the sunglasses on the beaches in Marbella are from Senegal, I can't see the harm in his Tweet, different if none were.

DickSwiveller

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

A lot of the lads selling the sunglasses on the beaches in Marbella are from Senegal, I can't see the harm in his Tweet, different if none were.

I guarantee the Senegalese players would find it funny. It's the usual mob who are upset.

Mean Laqueefa

Zebra3 wrote: »

Maybe someone famous will post up a photo of the English team with loads of dead Iraqi and Afghanistani kids in front of them.

See how many people think it's just "the craic" then.

DellyBelly

I thought it was funny. Never been to Marcella but been to Ibiza and Tenerife and the lads in that photo look like the ones selling the fake gear. Maybe i did buy that Lazer pointer off a Senegal international! That woukd be hilarious

Richard Hillman

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Lazy, I reckon. Quite dated too.

Have you been to Spain recently? They are all over the shop in Madrid. I'm always intrigued into how quickly they can wrap up and set up the white blankets so quickly after the inevitable run in with the law.

super_furry

Of course he was being racist.

scwazrh

super_furry wrote: »

Of course he was being racist.

It was funny though

DellyBelly

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Have you been to Spain recently? They are all over the shop in Madrid. I'm always intrigued into how quickly they can wrap up and set up the white blankets so quickly after the inevitable run in with the law.

They do move quickly don't they when police turn up. You can see why a white person will never win the 100 metres ever again.

Brae100

For me, the reaction to it is like a reverse racism of low expectation. The permanently outraged can't even begin to countenance that the Senegal players might possibly have a good laugh at it and respond with, "Yeah, but look at us now!"

Are Am Eye

kneemos wrote: »

Would he not be embarrassed having folk call him Lord?

"mu Lord" (touching your forelock) you foolish peasant.

SEPT 23 1989

Fcuk off being offended on my behalf you middle class w@nkers

Us lads on the factory floor of life have always ripped the **** out of each other and went for a few drinks afterwards

Ulysses Gaze

ednwireland wrote: »

Casual racism. Never good see he's apologised and deleted tweet, pretty much proves that public figures shouldn't have access to Twitter.

People just need to think before they post

_Kaiser_

People really need to stop taking every random post on Twitter or Facebook so seriously in the rush to be offended and start the next witch-hunt.

...... and just as important is that the rest of us don't indulge them and tell them to cop the fook on!

Yer Da sells Avon

Nothing, unless it's a minor slight against white people, is ever racist.

Laphroaig52

DellyBelly wrote: »

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Have you been to Spain recently? They are all over the shop in Madrid. I'm always intrigued into how quickly they can wrap up and set up the white blankets so quickly after the inevitable run in with the law.

They do move quickly don't they when police turn up. You can see why a white person will never win the 100 metres ever again.

Oh, the Lord save us! You're in trouble now.

AllForIt

I wouldn't be paying any attention to what anyone is saying about football on twitter or anywhere.

Football is always full of controversies - tedious low brow controversies - which is why I'm totally sick to the hind tweet about anything to do with football.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

Nothing, unless it's a minor slight against white people, is ever racist.

By white people di you mean jokes about the Scots, Irish, welsh or Poles etc?

Controversial.

jk23

“It’s not the Greeks he’s after it’s the Chinese”

AllForIt

Alan Sugar is a hard nosed twat which is probably why he's so bloody successful and rich.

We have seen what Donald Trump is really like after he did the The Apprentice TV show where he was portrayed as a fair minded guy.

I wonder how Alan Sugar would come across if he were elected to office. Shudder.

Mutant z

The permantely offended pc mob will be howling with outrage.

Madagascan

ednwireland wrote: »

Casual racism. Never good see he's apologised and deleted tweet, pretty much proves that public figures shouldn't have access to Twitter.

Or maybe old folk or people who you seem to be non lefties?

Cienciano

ednwireland wrote: »

Casual racism. Never good see he's apologised and deleted tweet, pretty much proves that public figures shouldn't have access to Twitter.

Looks to me like you're grouping all public figures together and tarring them with the same brush. Just because one or 2 public figures say something stupid on twitter doesn't mean they all do. Have you met every public figure?

FunLover18

Bonzo Delaney wrote: »

Where the tweet about the Nigerian team refunding their supporters for their poor performance just send on your full bank details to receive the refund.

Oh yeah it was funny because no one "famous " tweeted it
Jesus if we can't see the funny side to the odd stereotypical joke were fuped altogether.

The former isn't based on a stereotype, it's based on an email scam. Nigeria and Nigerians aren't the butt of the joke, the scam is.

Sugar's tweet was based on stereotypes and is racist as its premise is 'all black people look alike and when I think of black people I think of people selling rip-off merch in Marbella'.

Brae100

FunLover18 wrote: »

Sugar's tweet was based on stereotypes and is racist as its premise is 'all black people look alike and when I think of black people I think of people selling rip-off merch in Marbella'.

Row back there a minute and let's examine the issue of perceiving all black people looking alike
as being racist. It's not. Different races find it difficult to differentiate between individuals from different races. The South Korean football team in the World Cup swapped jerseys while they practiced as they believed spies from other teams wouldn't be able to tell them apart physically. Was there racism going on there?

Now let's look at stereotypes and was the the depiction of the West African stereotype of being involved in beach sales racist. I don't think so. Race is not really an issue here. West Africans have just identified a market and are working it. Asians seem to run all the electronic shops in the Med.

Realt Dearg Sec

No, nothing is ever racist and anyone who ever says something is racist is part of the PC brigade and should shut up.

Brae100

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

No, nothing is ever racist and anyone who ever says something is racist is part of the PC brigade and should shut up.

No, it seems that everything is now racist. Context has lost all meaning. The actual meaning of the word racism has disappeared. Now it's just millennials getting offended on behalf of other people.