Werewolf XXVIII - Eastenders

Clodagh WW

Angus WW wrote: »

If the Priest comes out. And if they're believed and won't get a double claim Priest??

This way we know immediately if Derry uses the power and we don't have to second guess and wait in the information.

Ok fine we are probably ok with the core we will have. Grand by me.

Doris WW

Clodagh, why you against a Riona reveal, and you afraid it will throw you in the limelight. We have 2 stories, the vil need clarification, you objecting to this makes you look bad.

Holly WW

Angus WW wrote: »

Yeah, would be happy with that either. If either comes back wolf it also clears Riona's claim.

Don't be silly of course it doesn't. There have been many instances where wolves have bussed teammates in order to increase village points. This is highly likely here too.

Conor WW

Clodagh WW wrote: »

We already know what you are.

You have named 2 unsubstantiated 'wolves', one or both of whom could be bussed teammates.

I have provided verifiable peeks to the village.

Dont waste the reveal on Riona.

If she or I dies, then priest will find out and then we know for sure anyway.

Verify someone else to build the core. We will need it since the wolves have so many roles to choose from for munches now.

that's handy

ID be more inclined to believe Riona, only if because of Angus

Doris WW

of course, the alpha wolf could be immune from peaks, Derry did you get clarification from mods if anyone bad could show as good?

Holly WW

If Derry chooses Riona to reveal it would avoid the need for the priest or peggy to come out. Assuming of course that Riona would reveal as wolf. Clodagh's claim wouldn't need to be immediately verified then. (how unlikely would it be that 2 wolves both claim seer?)

Angus WW

Holly WW wrote: »

Don't be silly of course it doesn't. There have been many instances where wolves have bussed teammates in order to increase village points. This is highly likely here too.

Okay, "lends credence to Riona's claim" might have been the better phrase.

Clodagh WW

Doris WW wrote: »

Clodagh, why you against a Riona reveal, and you afraid it will throw you in the limelight. We have 2 stories, the vil need clarification, you objecting to this makes you look bad.

Well i dont think thats accurate actually.

We are gonna use the reveal to resolve the seer claims? Yes that is one option.

After we do so, we will have one wolf and one outed seer - soon to be sk killed i should imagine.

We will then still have to verify Orla and Eva. My story and Evas are not dependant on each other. I can be seer and she can be a wolf. It would just mean Riona bussed her.

AND we will get the same info re: who is seer after lynch through the priest.

With that in mind, we should at least be discussing beyond the seer claim on what would be useful to find out. You have a wolf in either me or Riona (its Riona btw), so thats one found. But then we still have 3 other wolves to find and 1 sk.

Im not objecting to clearing Riona, but we wont be gettting infinity powers in this game. We need to use them wisely as we go on.

Barbara WW

Doris WW wrote: »

of course, the alpha wolf could be immune from peaks, Derry did you get clarification from mods if anyone bad could show as good?

Surely there's no chance Den get's a new identity AND peeks good?

Unless Den isn't the Alpha?

Clodagh WW

Barbara WW wrote: »

Surely there's no chance Den get's a new identity AND peeks good?

Unless Den isn't the Alpha?

Alpha powers will be useless if we use the priest to verify the seer claim.

Hold on, is there not another way to verify me as seer. I have a peek after lynch. If that peek is bs by anyone here, you have your answer?

Angus WW

If Riona's a villager then Eva and Orla have to be wolves.

If Riona's a wolf then it could be one wolf sacrificing themselves to clear two other wolves. A hugely ballsy move, and they'd no idea that Derry's power was coming down the line to allow them to do that. I've seen fake claims before, but wolves making fake claims usually tend to claim NRV peeks.

Doris WW

Clodagh WW wrote: »

Well i dont think thats accurate actually.

We are gonna use the reveal to resolve the seer claims? Yes that is one option.

After we do so, we will have one wolf and one outed seer - soon to be sk killed i should imagine.

We will then still have to verify Orla and Eva. My story and Evas are not dependant on each other. I can be seer and she can be a wolf. It would just mean Riona bussed her.

AND we will get the same info re: who is seer after lynch through the priest.

With that in mind, we should at least be discussing beyond the seer claim on what would be useful to find out. You have a wolf in either me or Riona (its Riona btw), so thats one found. But then we still have 3 other wolves to find and 1 sk.

Im not objecting to clearing Riona, but we wont be gettting infinity powers in this game. We need to use them wisely as we go on.

I hear what your saying, but lets say Riona peaks as the seer, we then have 3 suspects?

Who would you suggest for the reveal?

Barbara WW

Clodagh WW wrote: »

Alpha powers will be useless if we use the priest to verify the seer claim.

Hold on, is there not another way to verify me as seer. I have a peek after lynch. If that peek is bs by anyone here, you have your answer?

If SK kills you though....

Clodagh WW

Barbara WW wrote: »

If SK kills you though....

Yeah fair enough this could happen.

Im not as sure as some of you that Fiona was BG however.

Clodagh WW

Also i would like to point out we got no flavour telling us how many wolves are left.

Doris WW

Clodagh WW wrote: »

Alpha powers will be useless if we use the priest to verify the seer claim.

Hold on, is there not another way to verify me as seer. I have a peek after lynch. If that peek is bs by anyone here, you have your answer?

Have either of the claimed seers peaked a nrv, they could verify?

Clodagh WW

Doris WW wrote: »

Have either of the claimed seers peaked a nrv, they could verify?

No. I peeked app seer and a RV. Riona is claiming she peeked 2 wolves.

Only my peeks can be verified without potentially killing off at least 1 villager.

Doris WW

Clodagh WW wrote: »

Also i would like to point out we got no flavour telling us how many wolves are left.

We know there are at least 2, the killer and he called Den.

Clodagh WW

Im sorry gang i have to do some work. Ive been here since about 8 and i havent got a jot done. Ill catch up on questions as soon as i can, prob lunch.

Do what you want with the reveal but i think its wasted on Riona since we have other options.

Tegan WW

Derry WW wrote: »

<waves frantically >

hi derry

Clodagh WW

Doris WW wrote: »

We know there are at least 2, the killer and he called Den.

My point is we dont know if the SK or lynch kill last night was a wolf or not.

Doris WW

Clodagh WW wrote: »

No. I peeked app seer and a RV. Riona is claiming she peeked 2 wolves.

Only my peeks can be verified without potentially killing off at least 1 villager.

Thats mighty fine peeking, 2 RVs and 2 wolves.

Angus WW

Clodagh WW wrote: »

I peeked Dessie before he died and he was app seer – Zoe Slater. I picked Dessie because I was curious what his game was when he was standing up to a gun toting Steve on D1.

I peeked someone else that is alive, but ill not give away who they are, will I Peggy? I cant tell you why I chose this person without giving away who they are.

What's your character name, Clodagh?

Barbara WW

Clodagh WW wrote: »

Yeah fair enough this could happen.

Im not as sure as some of you that Fiona was BG however.

You have no idea how deeply I want to believe you on that.

Derry WW

Ewan WW wrote: »

Is there anything to be said for the Killer being masked, and him asking Den "I hope you know what you're doing"?

Would that suggest they turned on one of their own?

Thinking the same thing as you

Ewan WW

Derry WW wrote: »

Thinking the same thing as you

And for that, I now believe everything you say

Barbara WW

Its gone very quiet again, lol

Gertrude WW

I’m back in the Vic for the early shift now and won’t be available for a while. I would say this though. My head is absolutely melted reading this stuff this morning. I’ve had clodagh on my good list from the start. Said earlier that I believe Riona over Eva but don’t know if the two can be right.

I’d peek Clodagh and then we can have an actual village core

Nigel WW

Do we have another role claim??
I was hoping that thing mornings munch might reveal wolf numbers that let us know whether Babs lead us astray last night but the mods weren't so kind. Seems they're enjoying watching us fumble around in the dark.

My read of the game as of last night's lynch was that Babs was most likely the wolf. My reasoning being that's she spent yesterday drip feeding us info. She wasn't willing to give us all the info about the box, despite there being no benefit to the village to keep it to herself. The only benefit to sitting on that info was to use it as bait to build trust.

She did the same with the Fiona CFD. Promised us info at 8.50, then promised us more info at 8.59. After the lynch she claimed she delivered us a wolf but then quickly claimed that she hoped the priest would confirm Katie as a wolf for her.

I thought the reason for this was as a play to monopolize our attention for today and keep eyes off other wolves in our midst. It also offered a bandwagon for wolves to hide in at lynch time.

But now, with 3(!) seer claims in the open (hopefully a fourth doesn't claim before I finish this post) I'm not so sure. All three claim to offer some kind of proof so now I'm not sure again.

While this big reveal has really thrown the cat amongst the pigeons, I'm still not sure it fully clears Babs in my eyes. I'll have to read more closely later.

Ewan WW

I think the wolves have turned on one of their own to throw us off the scent.

I think if there is a priest they need to reveal Gab's role.

Angus WW

Okay, wolves know who I am, so it's only fair that villagers have all the same information. I'm the Priest, Dot Cotton.

Katie was Ricky, NRV
Steve was Bianca Butcher, NRV (the irony of them being the first two go!!)
Mary was Heather Trott, NRV
Desmond was Pat Butcher, Apprentice Seer
Isla was Dr Legg, NRV
Brendan was Barry Evans, The Loser Seer (Team Village, I checked)
Fiona was Frank Butcher, NRV (sorry Barbara!!)
Gabriel was Nick Cotton, Evil Shaman and SK

I would assume that the wolves have a Priest who tells them the role and character of who they kill. They knew Des was Pat Butcher, Apprentice Seer.
Eva then took on the character of Pat Butcher knowing there'd be no counter claim. And Clodagh renamed him Zoe Slater, but gave his correct role as Apprentice Seer. Therefore, we've two wolves in Eva and Clodagh as their lies have been exposed. It verifies Riona, therefore we can trust that Orla is also a wolf.

I said I knew Eva wasn't Pat Butcher. Villagers might have thought that was because *I* was Pat Butcher, but wolves would know I couldn't be as they killed her when they killed Desmond, therefore the only way I could know is because I'm Priest. Now that they know it anyway, there's no point in me staying hidden, though I'd have liked to have stayed hidden for longer.

I don't know what Loser Seer means. I asked mods, but they weren't forthcoming.

Gabriel's role of Evil Shaman pretty much confirms Derry's role of Good Shaman - he called it already.

Unless there's a second SK we should be safe tonight, and I should be safe until morning. No BG has been killed, so protect me please, BG in the morning.


Core team:
Me, Riona, Derry

Wolves:
Eva, Orla, Clodagh

Doris WW

Did someone not claim to be the app priest already, do they have any info or are they already dead?

Derry WW

My request has gone in

Conor WW

This.game...

Doris WW

If there is no SK kill tonight, that confirms Angus, unless he really lucky.

Is our only option now, to run Clodagh, Orla, and Eva tonight?

Derry WW

Conor WW wrote: »

This.game...

It’s pukka, innit

Angus WW

Doris WW wrote: »

Did someone not claim to be the app priest already, do they have any info or are they already dead?

Eva did.

Apprentice Priest (if there is one, I presume there is as there's an Apprentice Seer) is still alive and knows Eva is lying too.

Jake WW

Oh the irony that my character was as drunk as me and missed the shot

Doris WW

Derry WW wrote: »

My request has gone in

Who did you pick, it will clear you.

Doris WW

Well then the app priest needs to stay hidden now for sure.

Riona WW

Gabby was sk, didn't see that one well played

Nice work Angus

Derry WW

Not saying.

Riona WW

I also believe Derry is good now, his reaction to my coming out was different to Eva and orla, clodagh got spooked as she was next on my list after Derry to be peeked/lynched

Doris WW

Derry WW wrote: »

Not saying.

Well then no more reveals guys, until we get the reveal from Derrys target.

Angus WW

While we're waiting. I note that Ewan was quick to believe Eva over Riona.

Just sayin'

Doris WW

If Angus is correct, we have the sk dead and probably 3 wolves, thats a great run of results for the vil right now.

Barbara WW

If the SK is dead, bloody awesome.

Gabby gave Steve the faulty gun, right? I did think there was the chance it was a totem, rather than a weapon, but didn't say it in case it was a good totem, designed to be given as a delayed bullet shot.

If Angus is the priest then and I did screw Fiona, I deeply apologise. Two solaces I take though is that I only hit an NRV, AND I took down my rival to the affections of Pat.

Derry WW

Right the mods have confirmed that my selection has to reveal on thread. I have to go out for a few hours.

Angus WW

Barbara WW wrote: »

If the SK is dead, bloody awesome.

Gabby gave Steve the faulty gun, right? I did think there was the chance it was a totem, rather than a weapon, but didn't say it in case it was a good totem, designed to be given as a delayed bullet shot.

If Angus is the priest then and I did screw Fiona, I deeply apologise. Two solaces I take though is that I only hit an NRV, AND I took down my rival to the affections of Pat.

Robbie Fowler had affections for Pat??

Barbara WW

Lads,

Yay or nay

If there's a chance that the wolves team have an evil priest

Is there a chance they have an evil seer too?