Drought, how is it affecting you?

Keepgrowing

Birdnuts wrote: »

In this country the rules of capitalism are only inflicted on the small people during hard times - was always thus through history:(

A lot of small business’ have thrived and grown by embracing capitalism, should we apologise?

Keepgrowing

TL17 wrote: »

Yea thats right. Get rid of all us small part time farmers. Have country side back in ranches like it was historically. Sure that what our political masters want too.
Few dairy fellows here hoovering up every bit straw, silage conacre.fellows buying 3 to 4 loads straw at time.all makes sense from economic point view.Thats where we at now.
And sure some one like my self only nuisance buying small quantity bales. Or few bags feed at Co op when real farmers would buy by the pallet or ton. Cant compete and pay up to 40 euro a bale. But alls good. At least this year we have opportunity to buy rushes
Sorry rant over

Who do we apologise to?
What can we do to help you, cut back so you don’t have to?

Bullocks

wrangler wrote: »

Typical, a dairy farmer and a partime farmer making little of it.....no hardship there then.
Justin even said today at the farm walk that the suckler subsidy should be targetted at the larger herds as they're the ones that need it as the rest are part time....thought he was mad to say it maybe he's right though

If Justin said it sure it could only be right.
What is a larger herd ? I might still scrape across the subsidy line....

TL17

Keepgrowing wrote:

Who do we apologise to? What can we do to help you, cut back so you don’t have to?

I not asking for any apology thanks. Just givin my opinion on what wrangler posted and the way I see agriculture developing.
It is ok to do that on site like this?

Bullocks

wrangler wrote: »

Typical, a dairy farmer and a partime farmer making little of it.....no hardship there then.
Justin even said today at the farm walk that the suckler subsidy should be targetted at the larger herds as they're the ones that need it as the rest are part time....thought he was mad to say it maybe he's right though

I wasn't making little of the drought situation at all , more so the story from a" prominent farmers wife "

Gawddawggonnit

Keepgrowing wrote: »

A lot of small business’ have thrived and grown by embracing capitalism, should we apologise?

Tams99, tax breaks for land rentals, building grants, vat reductions, vat rebates etc etc, sound very uncapitalistic to an old socialist like me.

Bullocks

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Tams99, tax breaks for land rentals, building grants, vat reductions etc etc, sound very uncapitalistic to an old socialist like me.

What are you on about sure all those are the best ways to become a real capitalist haha.

wrangler

Bullocks wrote: »

I wasn't making little of the drought situation at all , more so the story from a" prominent farmers wife "

Maybe it's a message for those that's doing it for the ''lifestyle''...not to be dragging others down too, but of course I'm always telling lies on here don't you know....
Justin said that eighty cow herds needed subsidising a lot more than 8 cow herds, maybe disregard the first ten of every herd.
Didn't hear anyone at the farm walk reflecting the attitude against subsidies that's on here

Gawddawggonnit

Bullocks wrote: »

What are you on about sure all those are the best ways to become a real capitalist haha.

Bit rich dairy farmers quoting capitalism when they must be one of the most subsidized bunch, ever.

Bullocks

wrangler wrote: »

Maybe it's a message for those that's doing it for the ''lifestyle''...not to be dragging others down too, but of course I'm always telling lies on here don't you know....
Justin said that eighty cow herds needed subsidising a lot more than 8 cow herds, maybe disregard the first ten of every herd.
Didn't hear anyone at the farm walk reflecting the attitude against subsidies that's on here

Who are these lifestyle farmers?
How is it them that's dragging down other farmers?
I don't think you tell many lies on here.
I wonder how may 80 cow suckler herds there are in the country?
Justin probably wouldn't stand in connemara and say an 8 cow herd doesn't deserve a subsidy(at least not for long).
From an ANC point of view they might be worth more subsidies to maintain those types of areas than large herds.
Of course I can understand exactly where/who Justin is coming from but it wouldn't reflect everyone's opinions either

patsy_mccabe

Its the larger suckler farmers that are exiting to dairying. Smaller suckler guys will keep plugging away. Small they may be, but they are big in numbers and democracy rules.

Who2

Stop will ye’s. It’s a drought chat and I’m getting sick of this rain. Cattle were better settled when they had nothing but burnt pickings.

croot

Who2 wrote: »

Stop will ye’s. It’s a drought chat and I’m getting sick of this rain. Cattle were better settled when they had nothing but burnt pickings.

That’s for sure. Feckers bawling and coming to the gap as soon as they see you these days. They were very settled in the sunshine. Serious amount of rain in Sligo today and lots more due. Really could do with a few dry days to get the second cut done.

blue5000

Who2 wrote: »

Stop will ye’s. It’s a drought chat and I’m getting sick of this rain. Cattle were better settled when they had nothing but burnt pickings.

Mod note
I think on that note I'll close the thread. Thanks to everyone for all the contributions. If anybody wants to re-open it send me a PM.