So who's going to see the Pope?

Ilovethe bonesofyou

It's funny though even for people who are against it, everyone seems to be watching

Spanish Eyes

Plague Maiden wrote: »

Sounds like Glastonbury which sells out in 4 minutes every year.

But there is no religious element to it, just great muddy fun!

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Gael23 wrote: »

Looks like the begrudgers didn’t get their way.
Huge turnout

Ahem. I took this about 15 minutes ago:

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

EdgeCase

road_high wrote: »

They have been quick to move on from that angle each time!

To be honest, I think RTE needs to show this.
It’s an important moment for Ireland and it’s not meant to be doing a PR job.
If the place is empty. Let’s see it empty. That’s a very important message being sent by the Irish public.

Spanish Eyes

Ilovethe bonesofyou wrote: »

It's funny though even for people who are against it, everyone seems to be watching

No law against that. I think a lot are watching to see how low the crowd is and comment is free!

I think it is the marking of the passing of such religious events in this country anymore, so is therefore historic.

rafatoni

Ilovethe bonesofyou wrote: »

It's funny though even for people who are against it, everyone seems to be watching

all very giddy watchig it too lol.

Spanish Eyes

I am enjoying the music and singing. Very good.

I was expecting Kumbaya on a loop!

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Ilovethe bonesofyou wrote: »

It's funny though even for people who are against it, everyone seems to be watching

From a social history point of view, it’s interesting. Not that surprising.

McDermotX

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Not a mission is that 300,000 in the overhead shot. Max 150,000

Official figure is 299,992. So not a bad guess

FWIW I'd say you'll see about 300k mentioned as a turnout, whether thats accurate is another thing, but all things considered it's probably a realistic ballpark expectation.

Tzardine

McDermotX wrote: »

Official figure is 299,992. So not a bad guess

FWIW I'd say you'll see about 300k mentioned as a turnout, whether thats accurate is another thing, but all things considered it's probably a realistic ballpark

Official from who ? The gardai are the only ones that will give an official figure, and it wont be until after the event.

Spanish Eyes

All those priests in dresses and headgear. It is so unnecessary to me and looks medieval.

Frankie I think, would prefer it to be much simpler, with maybe just a server or two to help him.

McDermotX

Tzardine wrote: »

Official from who ? The gardai are the only ones that will give an official figure, and it wont be until after the event.

Whoosh

jrkb

No way there is even close to 300k people at it.

FrancieBrady

McDermotX wrote: »

Official figure is 299,992. So not a bad guess

FWIW I'd say you'll see about 300k mentioned as a turnout, whether thats accurate is another thing, but all things considered it's probably a realistic ballpark expectation.

That is probably based on tickets issued.
It is no were near 299,000. think about that for a second and look at the picture.

Tzardine

McDermotX wrote: »

Whoosh

Whoosh what ?

Dravokivich

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Ahem. I took this about 15 minutes ago:

That picture doesn't show it all though.

They had those corrals all over the place In the park. Not just in front of the cross. By the football pitches, chapelizod gates, all along chesterfield avenue.

The tickets an attendee got, gave them a designated area to go to.

Taytoland

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

The resident Unionists giving out about the Pope. Talk about a complete lack of self-awareness.

How dare people be critical of the Pope and his pedophile organization.

JaMarcus

He really knows how to work the altar. Look at that chalice work!

Mr.Crinklewood

jrkb wrote: »

No way there is even close to 300k people at it.

Any figures from the protest gathering yet?(assuming some people on here are there)

ewc78

Ilovethe bonesofyou wrote: »

It's funny though even for people who are against it, everyone seems to be watching

It's even funnier that those that are complaining will and probably have got married in a Church and their kids will or have already made their Communions.

Eggs For Dinner

What do massgoers, who normally stand outside the church while it's going on, do at a gig like this? Must be very confusing.

McDermotX

FrancieBrady wrote: »

That is probably based on tickets issued.
It is no were near 299,000. think about that for a second and look at the picture.

You'd be surprised trying to guesstimate crowds. It's a notoriously difficult concept to grasp as various pictures can paint a different perspective.
Personally I wouldn't cross the road to attend it, in fact its probably less than 8 miles from me. No problem with anyone who wants to head along if thats their bag.

looksee

The only woman on the altar is a lectern.

Ilovethe bonesofyou

Spanish Eyes wrote:

No law against that. I think a lot are watching to see how low the crowd is and comment is free!

I doubt that's the reason a lot are. We're all voyeurs at the end of the day and it is a big event.

rafatoni

ewc78 wrote: »

It's even funnier that those that are complaining will and probably have got married in a Church and their kids will or have already made their Communions.

The same mob were also rounding figures up for the water protest but rounding down for this..

Suits you sir.

Bubbaclaus

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

Any figures from the protest gathering yet?

By protest gathering do you mean the event to remember and stand with victims of child abuse?

jrkb

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

Any figures from the protest gathering yet?(assuming some people on here are there)

Im not watching the protest.

postsnthing

They are all standing at the back grabbing the pamphlet to show their mams to prove they went

matrim

postsnthing wrote: »

They are all standing at the back grabbing the pamphlet to show their mams to prove they went

Who did the reading and gave out communion?

FrancieBrady

McDermotX wrote: »

You'd be surprised trying to guesstimate crowds. It's a notoriously difficult concept to grasp as various pictures can paint a different perspective.
Personally I wouldn't cross the road to attend it, in fact its probably less than 8 miles from me. No problem with anyone who wants to head along if thats their bag.

It isn't that hard to do from an over head.
Create a square over the densest part of the crowd (to be kind to them) estimate how many are in it. Quite easy to make a guess then. 150,000 would be my guess from the pic and that is being kind.

Mr.Crinklewood

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

By protest gathering do you mean the event to remember and stand with victims of child abuse?

The "Nope to the Pope" campaign.

@NickyRyan_: Big crowd here at Nope To The Pope protest #PopeInIreland #WMOF2018 https://twitter.com/NickyRyan_/status/1033704848624168962/photo/1

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

ewc78 wrote: »

It's even funnier that those that are complaining will and probably have got married in a Church and their kids will or have already made their Communions.

Can’t speak for anyone else but I had a civil ceremony. No kids but they wouldn’t be raised Catholic.

Eggs For Dinner

ewc78 wrote: »

It's even funnier that those that are complaining will and probably have got married in a Church and their kids will or have already made their Communions.

I got married in a church and yes, my sons went through all the ceremonies. Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't do it again if I had a do-over. My eldest is getting married next year and it won't be in a church. Really looking forward to that

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Eggs For Dinner wrote: »

I got married in a church and yes, my sons went through all the ceremonies. Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't do it again if I had a do-over. My eldest is getting married next year and it won't be in a church. Really looking forward to that

Civil ceremonies are increasing in popularity year-on-year.

Kermit.de.frog

It's a ridiculously big space. How many acres is it?

Mr.Crinklewood

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Civil ceremonies are increasing in popularity year-on-year.

Is there a civil ceremony type thingy for funerals?

batgoat

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

By protest gathering do you mean the event to remember and stand with victims of child abuse?

The "Nope to the Pope" campaign.

@NickyRyan_: Big crowd here at Nope To The Pope protest #PopeInIreland #WMOF2018 https://twitter.com/NickyRyan_/status/1033704848624168962/photo/1

That's also including the fact that plenty were struggling to get into the city as public transport is notoriously unreliable today... So pretty great turnout.

Dravokivich

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

It's a ridiculously big space. How many acres is it?

The sports field next to it is known as the 15 acres.

Star Bingo

This is a bangin’ tune

Eggs For Dinner

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

Is there a civil ceremony type thingy for funerals?

Yep, humanist funerals

looksee

No doubt there will be criticism, and it remains to be seen wht difference it will make, but as apologies went that was a pretty thorough, given the time available, apology.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

Is there a civil ceremony type thingy for funerals?

I think so but as of yet, it seems pretty rare in Ireland. I guess because the deceased doesn’t always plan their own funeral so people go for the familiar, tried and true formula at a time of sadness and distress.

murpho999

Lots of empty spaces, no way they got the turn out as expected.

Must be only about 25% of 1979's turnout.

Huge change.

Star Bingo

Lionel Messi has aged

road_high

Ten Pin wrote: »

Don't know exactly how tickets were booked (all online presumably?). There are a lot of people in the target market who just wouldn't have the tech savvy to go to the hassle (as they saw it). Those people are probably a bit disappointed to see enough empty space for 50,000 (and more) tickets at the door.

Did they give them out at parish and church level? Would have been the ideal way to reach the target audience

Dravokivich

murpho999 wrote: »

Lots of empty spaces, no way they got the turn out as expected.

Must be only about 25% of 1979's turnout.

Huge change.

Have they shown anywhere else around the park? Only about 1/3 of the space for attendees is by the cross.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

murpho999 wrote: »

Lots of empty spaces, no way they got the turn out as expected.

Must be only about 25% of 1979's turnout.

Huge change.

And remember, the population has grown a lot since 1979!

murpho999

Dravokivich wrote: »

Have they shown anywhere else around the park? Only about 1/3 of the space for attendees is by the cross.

That's most of the area. Why would't those spaces be full?

road_high

murpho999 wrote: »

Lots of empty spaces, no way they got the turn out as expected.

Must be only about 25% of 1979's turnout.

Huge change.

1979 was an enermous event and a seminal moment in recent Irish history- people still refer to it as a landmark- what they were doing or where they were.
This will be largely forgotten within weeks

FrancieBrady

Dravokivich wrote: »

Have they shown anywhere else around the park? Only about 1/3 of the space for attendees is by the cross.

Ach stop. You are looking at it all.