So who's going to see the Pope?

RobertKK

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Believing Catholics seem to be a bit stupid - why are there people standing in pens that are almost empty when they could just walk forward and get a bit more into it.

Because they got a better vantage point to see the Pope up close as he drove through the various sections so all could see him up close.

Bubbaclaus

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Believing Catholics seem to be a bit stupid - why are there people standing in pens that are almost empty when they could just walk forward and get a bit more into it.

Sheep pens.

CruelCoin

Collie D wrote: »

Doesn't matter a jot to him. Whether you were there today, are a believer or not, once you were baptised a Catholic you'll always be "one of them" to that poster.

One of us
One of us
One of us

RobertKK

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Are they worse than child abusers though? Graces7 certainly thinks so.

Why compare apples and oranges, or bring in people who are not present at this moment to comment?

murpho999

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Believing Catholics seem to be a bit stupid - why are there people standing in pens that are almost empty when they could just walk forward and get a bit more into it.

I assume their tickets had allocated pens (just like sheep(, that they had to go to.

Really a poor turn out.

gmisk

Patww79 wrote: »

The political and ethical cause of you people is to see all of us wiped out, not just the religion.

Huh?
Are you saying atheists... Want what exactly?!
Wiping out of the human race!?!... Come on now

OldMrBrennan83

gmisk wrote: »

Huh?
Are you saying atheists... Want what exactly?!
Wiping out of the human race!?!... Come on now

The Irish, I was replying to a shankhill butcher in waiting.

Bubbaclaus

batgoat wrote: »

Tickets were literally being handed out on the Christianity forum. They were incredibly easy to come by. Also they were readily available to order online for weeks. Seems clear that the selling out was always misrepresented as there was absolutely no difficultly ordering.

That doesn't fit the narrative of people trying to make excuses for nobody turning up.

Bubbaclaus

RobertKK wrote: »

Why compare apples and oranges, or bring in people who are not present at this moment to comment?

I was asking you the question.

Taytoland

Patww79 wrote: »

Taytoland wrote: »

I'm an Atheist. The demise of the Catholic Church is great for my political and ethical cause.

The political and ethical cause of you people is to see all of us wiped out, not just the religion.

And how do you come to that frankly bizarre conclusion?

Try_harder

People over booked tickets and others booked tickets in a protest, but all were booked up.

Clearly far from 500,000 showed up

OldMrBrennan83

Taytoland wrote: »

And how do you come to that frankly bizarre conclusion?

I've witnessed you all before. You have a constant yearning for all our blood to be spilt, your whole world is built around it. It's also the main reason every other aspect of your country is still in the 1980's.

RobertKK

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

I was asking you the question.

You are bringing someone else into it and I do not have to answer for someone else's views which I don't know if you are misrepresenting.

super_furry

With all this chat about the attendance and Ed Sheeran selling out nine stadium gigs in Ireland this year, is Ed Sheeran now officially and empirically bigger than Jesus?

SPDUB

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I do admit that I'm delighted with the low turnout as it demonstrates that the census will wrong. .

What it actually shows is that there are a lot of people lying on the census form .

CruelCoin

Patww79 wrote: »

I've witnessed you all before. You have a constant yearning for all our blood to be spilt, your whole world is built around it.

That's frankly scary. I suggest you seek mental help.

Guy:Incognito

Patww79 wrote: »

The political and ethical cause of you people is to see all of us wiped out, not just the religion.

You've a serious case of inflated self worth. I doubt anyone has any interest in wiping you out.

Bubbaclaus

RobertKK wrote: »

You are bringing someone else into it and I do not have to answer for someone else's views which I don't know if you are misrepresenting.

Ok. Ignore the bit about Graces7.

Question just for you. Are the people that snapped up tickets with no intention to go worse than child abusers and the people that cover it up?

Simple yes or no question for you Robert.

OldMrBrennan83

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

You've a serious case of inflated self worth. I doubt anyone has any interest in wiping you out.

We're all one entity to them, I'm the same as you and you me.

Sleeper12

Patww79 wrote:

Yes they did, I know lots of people that booked tickets to stop people going. It may not have had much effect in the end but the intention was there. There is lots of triumphalism too, you just don't want to see it because you have your own views. The big twitter brigade jumping on the coat tails of real protests don't want anyone to think anything different than they do themselves.

Tickets were still available free of charge online right up to last night. No one was deprived of tickets but I do agree that the intention was there. As it turns out no one needed to get tickets in protest. So few actually bothered their arse going. Even Dublin City yesterday had a tiny turnout. They expected 100,000 at that but it was closer to 20,000. Not tickets needed. Now the country people showed up the dubs big time. Total respect 45,000 was a great turnout for knock.

No one wants you to convert or dump your religion but many people are delighted that we can no longer be treated as 78 percent RC. It's been very unfair for a long while now the way schools have been very biased towards RC when in reality RC is possibly in the minority now

Bubbaclaus

super_furry wrote: »

With all this chat about the attendance and Ed Sheeran selling out nine stadium gigs in Ireland this year, is Ed Sheeran now officially and empirically bigger than Jesus?

He is an order of magnitude bigger than Jesus.

Try_harder

Whats going to see the pope got to do with anti Islamic paranoia?

erica74

Excuses about tickets. Excuses about abuse and coverups. Excuses, excuses, excuses.

Sleeper12

SPDUB wrote:

What it actually shows is that there are a lot of people lying on the census form .

I'll buy that as fact.

Try_harder

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

He is an order of magnitude bigger than Jesus.

Bigger than the pope anyway

OldMrBrennan83

CruelCoin wrote: »

That's frankly scary. I suggest you seek mental help.

Up to their knees in it, one could say. But they're not the mental ones.

Sleeper12

erica74 wrote:

Excuses about tickets. Excuses about abuse and coverups. Excuses, excuses, excuses.

Plenty of free tickets online up to last night. People didn't want to go

Fighting Tao

Strazdas wrote: »

Yes indeed, I think too the RCC haters are totally over-represented on this forum....the vast majority of the population are just getting on with their lives.

There were loads more pro-Catholic contributors until they acted very unchristian and got banned.

erica74

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Plenty of free tickets online up to last night. People didn't want to go

There's more fervour for tickets to the All Ireland.

Try_harder

erica74 wrote: »

There's more fervour for tickets to the All Ireland.

Well there are far less available tbf

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Maria was raped by a man, allegedly not a 'movement'.. He hasn't had his day in court , to answer the allegations. A court he willingly turned up to.
But you get the noose out anyway there blanch.

I see very little difference between the Republican Movement and the Catholic Church in how they handled abuse allegations. Moving abusers, protecting them from the law, demonising the victims etc.

Acolytes and believers defend both Instiutions, that is to be expected.

Thankfully the truth about the Catholic Church is coming out. Next is the Republican Movement.

gmisk

Patww79 wrote: »

The Irish, I was replying to a shankhill butcher in waiting.

That makes equally as little sense to me... But hey

Bubbaclaus

What was the size of the crowd for the limerick homecoming last week?

murpho999

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Tickets were still available free of charge online right up to last night. No one was deprived of tickets but I do agree that the intention was there. As it turns out no one needed to get tickets in protest. So few actually bothered their arse going. Even Dublin City yesterday had a tiny turnout. They expected 100,000 at that but it was closer to 20,000. Not tickets needed. Now the country people showed up the dubs big time. Total respect 45,000 was a great turnout for knock.

No one wants you to convert or dump your religion but many people are delighted that we can no longer be treated as 78 percent RC. It's been very unfair for a long while now the way schools have been very biased towards RC when in reality RC is possibly in the minority now

For me its he opposite and the Dubs showed more maturity by not going than the country folk.

1hnr79jr65

billyhead wrote: »

So much bitterness on this thread against the church
It was a very small minority of priests whom abused their position. You would swear they were all at it the way some clowns here go on.

The whole damn organisation has been corrupt for hundreds of years. Manipulating countries and lives of individuals while proclaiming a holier than thou attitude. Telling old folks they need to pay into a basket of an already stupidly rich organisation to get into heaven or to pay for a roof which they can easily afford to repair.

Celibate men and women telling couples how to have sexual relationships, abusing children, killing children of single mothers, covering up scandal after scandal while protecting the guilty. Using excuses and moving them around to try hide what went on.

I have no issue with people being religious at all, everyone is entitled to believe in what gives them comfort or belief in nothing if they so choose. But NOT ONE person NEEDS a church to have belief.

Germanic tribes worshiped trees long ago, they just needed nature to have their worship.

So in response to your statement, yes there is bitterness at a corrupt organisation that takes advantage on anyone and that goes for any church/mosque/synagog.

Yes have belief if u want/need/must, but leave the church out of it. Best thing that can happen is the RCC is burned to the ground and their wealth distributed to the neediest in all societies that they robbed from over hundreds of years.

OldMrBrennan83

murpho999 wrote: »

For me its he opposite and the Dubs showed more maturity by not going than the country folk.

Wise up.

Whoever wanted to go went and whoever didn't want to go didn't. And it had **** all effect on you as regards who did what.

Hitman3000

Graces7 wrote:

At Knock, earlier, there were 45,000, a capacity attendance... strong sincere folk with joy in their hearts; lots of families.

My sister in law is a Guard. She was on duty in Knock. Nothing approaching 45k according to her .

Sleeper12

murpho999 wrote:

For me its he opposite and the Dubs showed more maturity by not going than the country folk.

Ah I respect anyone that wanted to go. There just wasn't too many of them

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

super_furry wrote: »

With all this chat about the attendance and Ed Sheeran selling out nine stadium gigs in Ireland this year, is Ed Sheeran now officially and empirically bigger than Jesus?

Was gonna post something similar.

GarIT

Patww79 wrote: »

Wise up.

Whoever wanted to go went and whoever didn't want to go didn't. And it had **** all effect on you as regards who did what.

But it does say a lot about someone whether they went to the supporters of abusers rally or not. Every one of the 130,000 there is a supporter of abusing children, if they gave a **** they wouldn't go to listen to a guy speak who is hiding wanted criminals known to have abused children in his private city.

RobertKK

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Ok. Ignore the bit about Graces7.

Question just for you. Are the people that snapped up tickets with no intention to go worse than child abusers and the people that cover it up?

Simple yes or no question for you Robert.

Of course not and the fact you ask me that is really weird and strange.

erica74

How about all the Irish who put "Catholic" on the census now make a pact not to do that anymore unless they actually are a Catholic? How about people stop getting married in churches "for mammy"? How about people stop having their babies baptised because "sure it's a nice day out for everyone"? How about parents actually take a stand with regard to their child's education? If you want your child to do religious studies (and not just indoctrination into catholicism), teach them at home. If you're not a practicing catholic, you're not a catholic.

OldMrBrennan83

GarIT wrote: »

But it does say a lot about someone whether they went to the supporters of abusers rally or not.

Away with that mindless shíte you absolute headcase.

Allinall

Hitman3000 wrote: »

My sister in law is a Guard. She was on duty in Knock. Nothing approaching 45k according to her .

A guard quoting stats????

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

erica74 wrote: »

How about all the Irish who put "Catholic" on the census now make a pact not to do that anymore unless they actually are a Catholic? How about people stop getting married in churches "for mammy"? How about people stop having their babies baptised because "sure it's a nice day out for everyone"? How about parents actually take a stand with regard to their child's education? If you want your child to do religious studies (and not just I dictrination into catholicism), teach them at home. If you're not a practicing catholic, you're not a catholic.

Pardon the irony but...

Amen to that!

GarIT

Patww79 wrote: »

Away with that mindless ****e.

I think the exact same about what you're saying.

blanch152

blanch152 wrote: »

I see very little difference between the Republican Movement and the Catholic Church in how they handled abuse allegations. Moving abusers, protecting them from the law, demonising the victims etc.

Acolytes and believers defend both Instiutions, that is to be expected.

Thankfully the truth about the Catholic Church is coming out. Next is the Republican Movement.

Presidential election campaign starting early for you blanch? You'll be very active round these parts in the weeks to come I take it?

OldMrBrennan83

erica74 wrote: »

How about all the Irish who put "Catholic" on the census now make a pact not to do that anymore unless they actually are a Catholic? How about people stop getting married in churches "for mammy"? How about people stop having their babies baptised because "sure it's a nice day out for everyone"? How about parents actually take a stand with regard to their child's education? If you want your child to do religious studies (and not just I dictrination into catholicism), teach them at home. If you're not a practicing catholic, you're not a catholic.

Are you allowed to be a practicing Catholic if you want to be though? Because I'm not seeing the freedom to be one from a lot of peoples attitudes.

OldMrBrennan83

GarIT wrote: »

I think the exact same about what you're saying.

We all think it about something someone else is saying.

shenanagans

erica74 wrote: »

How about all the Irish who put "Catholic" on the census now make a pact not to do that anymore unless they actually are a Catholic? How about people stop getting married in churches "for mammy"? How about people stop having their babies baptised because "sure it's a nice day out for everyone"? How about parents actually take a stand with regard to their child's education? If you want your child to do religious studies (and not just I dictrination into catholicism), teach them at home. If you're not a practicing catholic, you're not a catholic.

Well said. Too much hypocrisy when it come to religion in this country.