Should calling someone a Culchie be a sacking offence?

Wombatman

Some guy at Netflix just lost his job for using the N-word. Surely the same should apply to use of the word Culchie?

ohnonotgmail

Can we sack people who use the term jackeen as well?

whisky_galore

Since when have Culchies been enslaved?

World of a difference there.

verycool

It's only half ten and I know nothing else will top this for the "stupidest thing I've read all day".

abff

Wombatman wrote: »

Some guy at Netflix just lost his job for using the N-word. Surely the same should apply to use of the word Culchie?

Not even remotely comparable. I doubt he would have been fired for calling someone a redneck.

The Backwards Man

Culchie is a moniker I wear with pride.

Wombatman

whisky_galore wrote: »

Since when have Culchies been enslaved?

World of a difference there.

I beg to differ.

Culchie may be derived from an Irish-language term cúl an tí meaning 'back of the house'. The servants were not permitted to enter the house through the front door but had to use the back door or servants' entrance. It became common practice in Dublin to use culchie in a derogatory manner. Over time, as the numbers of servants dwindled through the 20th century, the term was retained in everyday use.

Working for little of nothing, for rich exploitative Dubliners. Little has changed really.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

The comparison is odious and shows a complete ignorance of the topic. Ludicrous thread.

Skylinehead

This thread is a sackable offence.

JRant

I prefer to use the terms Spudheads or Rockmunchers as they are far better descripters than culchie.

Canis Lupus

This would have been a good Friday evening thread. You've ruined it posting it on a Monday.

Vita nova

Wombatman wrote: »

Some guy at Netflix just lost his job for using the N-word. Surely the same should apply to use of the word Culchie?

No, not fired but the user should be told to save that nonsense for the pub or for outside of work.

endacl

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Culchie is a moniker I wear with pride.

Jaysus. Yer very well spoken for a culchie!

Grayson

OP, I could call you a Cnut and it's still not as offensive as the n word.

Grayson

endacl wrote: »

Jaysus. Yer very well spoken for a culchie!

I'd say he's a north kildare culchie. Not a real culchie.

JRant

Canis Lupus wrote: »

This would have been a good Friday evening thread. You've ruined it posting it on a Monday.

All the muck savages ( ) would be traveling home from Dublin to mammies on a Friday evening with a boot full of washing and missed this thread then.

The Backwards Man

endacl wrote: »

Jaysus. Yer very well spoken for a culchie!

Never confuse patois with stupidity.

Wombatman

Grayson wrote: »

OP, I could call you a Cnut and it's still not as offensive as the n word.

You can call anyone a cnut. The other two words target specific racial minorities for offence.

sexmag

if thats the case we should just stop talking to each other for fear of offending someone.

I for one will be happy to not have to talk to anyone....especially culchies as i cant understand half of what they f**king say

bennyineire

Where does the culchie/Jackeen world collide (besides Coppers of course),
Where do you suppose the physical border area is ?

sexmag

Wombatman wrote: »

You can call anyone a cnut. The other two words target specific racial minorities for offence.

have you not heard of the cnut race of people?

Bunch are fannys if ive ever seen one

sexmag

bennyineire wrote: »

Where do you suppose the physical border area is ?

like the post box says "Dublin" "Everywhere else"

whisky_galore

Wombatman wrote: »

I beg to differ.

Working for little of nothing, for rich exploitative Dubliners. Little has changed really.

No.

So were they brought over on slave ships, bought and sold, beaten and whipped? Living in ghettos to this day, huh?

Bit like that white supremacist claptrap likening the treatment of the Irish to what African Americans had to go through.

Grayson

Wombatman wrote: »

You can call anyone a cnut. The other two words target specific racial minorities for offence.

Culchies, as in those outside Dublin, make up the majority of the population in Ireland.

Grayson

bennyineire wrote: »

Where does the culchie/Jackeen world collide (besides Coppers of course),
Where do you suppose the physical border area is ?

Lucan.

El Tarangu

Wombatman wrote: »

You can call anyone a cnut. The other two words target specific racial minorities for offence.

Given that (i) culchies are far and away in the majority in Ireland, and (ii)culchies and dubs are ethnically homogenous, I'm not really sure that you can make that argument...

Q: if someone from Kilkenny tells his mate from Waterford: "sure, Waterford hurlers are useless", should the equality commission be contacted about this hate crime?

Hector Bellend

culchie mulchie

endacl

Grayson wrote: »

Culchies, as in those outside Dublin, make up the majority of the population in Ireland of the observable universe.

For accuracy.

Vita nova

El Tarangu wrote: »

Given that (i) culchies are far and away in the majority in Ireland, and (ii)culchies and dubs are ethnically homogenous, I'm not really sure that you can make that argument...

Q: if someone from Kilkenny tells his mate from Waterford: "sure, Waterford hurlers are useless", should the equality commission be contacted about this hate crime?

Culchie would generally be regarded as a pejorative word for a rural dweller, if you think everyone outside of Dublin is a culchie then you are awfully ignorant.

OED Definition of Culchie
"one who lives in, or comes from, a rural area; a (simple) countryman (or woman), a provincial, a rustic"

Ps. I'm a ruralite

Auguste Comte

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Culchie is a moniker I wear with pride.

Yea but it's probably 2 sizes too big and tied on with bailing twine..

numbnutz

No it shouldn't and for this reason...the Culchie of the year competition....you don't hear about N1gg3r of the Year competition do you?

AlmightyCushion

Surely people should be getting sacked for hiring culchies in the first place.

Franz Von Peppercorn

I would say it’s a pejorative, so in work it should be avoided.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Reading about the Netflix guy - he was their communications guy and was listing words that should be avoided in comedy at a meeting.

Your Face

Just sack the culchies.

Vita nova

Grayson wrote: »

Culchies, as in those outside Dublin, make up the majority of the population in Ireland.

Not everyone would agree with your definition, so here you go:

Some definitions of culchie:
Google: "an unsophisticated country person"
OED: "one who lives in, or comes from, a rural area; a (simple) countryman (or woman), a provincial, a rustic"
Dicitionary.com: "a rough or unsophisticated country-dweller from outside Dublin"

ohnonotgmail

Vita nova wrote: »

Not everyone would agree with your definition, so here you go:

so everyone from outside Dublin then, which is the majority of the population.

AlmightyCushion

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

I would say it’s a pejorative, so in work it should be avoided.

You're pejorative.

pwisp

If you get that angry by being called a culchie then you need to get out more and try enjoy life a little.

Vita nova

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

so everyone from outside Dublin then, which is the majority of the population.

0/10 for comprehension

super_furry

Wombatman wrote: »

Some guy at Netflix just lost his job for using the N-word. Surely the same should apply to use of the word Culchie?

Fair play, it’s still Monday morning and already we have a contender for the worst post of the week. That’s an impressive achievement.

Mutant z

No its just a bit of banter i myself live in the countryside so i couldn't care less what I'm called my skin is much thicker than that.

ohnonotgmail

Vita nova wrote: »

0/10 for comprehension

0/10 for sense of humour.

biko

Grayson wrote: »

OP, I could call you a Cnut and it's still not as offensive as the n word.

You know one is more offensive than the other when one is not even spelled out.

Franz Von Peppercorn

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

You're pejorative.

Did you just learn a new word and decide to use it?

Wibbs

Only in the Civil Service, because the name caller just outed themselves as a Dub.

Grayson

Vita nova wrote: »

Not everyone would agree with your definition, so here you go:

Culchies are people from outside dublin. They don't come from Dublin. That's part of the definition. You might say that it's "country people" but that's still people who aren't from Dublin city.

And yes, the majority of people in Ireland aren't from Dublin which makes them culchies and that means that culchies aren't a minority.

Grayson

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Reading about the Netflix guy - he was their communications guy and was listing words that should be avoided in comedy at a meeting.

Apparently he did it twice after being told not to after the first time. The second time he was talking to a group of black staffers after the first time.

AlmightyCushion

Grayson wrote: »

Culchies are people from outside dublin. They don't come from Dublin. That's part of the definition. You might say that it's "country people" but that's still people who aren't from Dublin city.

And yes, the majority of people in Ireland aren't from Dublin which makes them culchies and that means that culchies aren't a minority.

Where I grew up, culchie generally meant people from rural areas which would include a lot more places than just Dublin city. But I have heard it used to describe anyone outside of Dublin so I guess it depends where you grew up what a culchie is defined as like a lot of slang.

Vita nova

Grayson wrote: »

Culchies are people from outside dublin. They don't come from Dublin. That's part of the definition. You might say that it's "country people" but that's still people who aren't from Dublin city.

And yes, the majority of people in Ireland aren't from Dublin which makes them culchies and that means that culchies aren't a minority.

Re-read the definitions I presented. Culchie was defined as "unsophisticated", "rough" or "simple", so not a country person in general (IMHO). In fact I wouldn't call myself a culchie, nor would I use the term because of its generic associations.

Secondly, to me, the country is rural and a country person is a ruralite. Someone from the centre of Cork, Limerick, Galway or any big town is not living in the country they are living in a town or city.

Hector Savage

I'd like to know the context of him using it, if he called a someone a n*gger then fair enough, but if he was quoting Huckleberry Finn or using it in a non offensive scenario then it's a bit much - context is important here, it's worrying if you could just be sacked for using it whatever the reason.

There was a teacher in the US that was fired for using "niggardly" - crazy.