Mayo vs Kildare [What Mayo should do]

LandersDublin

No harm but the verbal diarrhoea spewed on here is embarrassing. Everyone has an opinion doesnt mean its correct.

martingriff

Brusna wrote: »

Ah ffs, I give up. That the 10,000 fans who wanted to attend this game cannot now do so.

So every game now is right and wrong if full to capacity as people can't go due to capacity?

munster87

LandersDublin wrote: »

No harm but the verbal diarrhoea spewed on here is embarrassing. Everyone has an opinion doesnt mean its correct.

Exactly, sums up your comments perfectly.

LandersDublin

jj72 wrote: »

Its just a pity that the numbers weren't high when ye were struggling to win Leinster and All Irelands

Ah here we go, Rubbishhhhhh

LandersDublin

munster87 wrote: »

Exactly, sums up your comments perfectly.

Of course it does.

DONTMATTER

LandersDublin wrote: »

No its simple fact. I say it as an Unbiased Dub, im as unbiased on this as I was when I voiced my opinion the Longford Dublin game, And then Kildare Mayo game.

Dublin Senior footballers are the most attractive and best footballers to play the game in Modern times. The numbers out to see them is exceedingly high.

What about the Longford/Dublin game?

There was 41,000 at the Leinster final on Sunday, is that exceedingly high?

LandersDublin

jj72 wrote: »

Its just a pity that the numbers weren't high when ye were struggling to win Leinster and All Irelands

With 57 Leinsters and the nearest less then half of those. When exactly did we struggle.

LandersDublin

DONTMATTER wrote: »

What about the Longford/Dublin game?

There was 41,000 at the Leinster final on Sunday, is that exceedingly high?

with 2100 Longford and rest decorated in Blue.

charlie14

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

Well I wouldnt say so because that will be a 50-50 split between clubs of each county, which is controlling the distribution. This isnt done for any other game so why are the rules changing for this one? For example, when the dubs play kildare in cp do they send 50% of the tickets to the kildare clubs?
This game shouldnt be handled any differently to any other game of its type. To do so discriminates against the opposition

But is it ot a bit hypocritical to look after county season ticket holders iwhile at the same time club members who are the lifeblood of clubs have to scramble with people who may have never contributed anything towards the GAA for tickets.


We have been told often enough by the powers that be, and I agree, that clubs are the lifeblood of the organisation, but when it comes to ticket allocation in situations like this then it just sounds very hollow.


Btw, I have no problem with season ticket holders getting first dibs, I`m one myself, but I feel club members should at least get some recognition as well.

MayoAreMagic

LandersDublin wrote: »

Mate you have no Idea what your talking about. Thanx very much for your opinion.

Actually 'mate', ive just given you the figures that suggest I know more about it than you do.

Of that one sixth of the population, half either are from other counties or dont follow dublin gaa. So if you think that 1/12th of the population having to row in with everyone else and travel for an odd game at the business end is going to put a stop to all commercial success in the gaa community - countrywide, then you either havent a clue about scale, or you havent a clue about the gaa, or both.

DONTMATTER

Will people stop quoting him now? Thanks.

charlie14

DONTMATTER wrote: »

That's a good idea. It's Dublin's home ground isn't it?

Supposedly so.;)

Bonniedog

DONTMATTER wrote: »

The Dubs really have a high opinion of themselves. They think they are the GAA!

No. But nor do we think we should be expelled like you do.

You have been asked several times what county you are from.

I would make shrewd guess it is one of those counties which allowed itself to be intimidated into abandoning the GAA by the Brits and the Catholic Church after Parnell, at a time when the Munster counties, Dublin, Kilkenny, Galway, Wexford, Louth and a few others kept it going.


Would I be correct now?

LandersDublin

Bonniedog wrote: »

No. But nor do we think we should be expelled like you do.

You have been asked several times what county you are from.

I would make shrewd guess it is one of those counties which allowed itself to be intimidated into abandoning the GAA by the Brits and the Catholic Church after Parnell, at a time when the Munster counties, Dublin, Kilkenny, Galway, Wexford, Louth and a few others kept it going.


Would I be correct now?

Definitely.

Brusna

bennyl10 wrote: »

Which is simply a supply and demand issue, what happens with every event.

that would never have been an issue if the GAA had just done the right thing to begin with.

In my opinion they tried to do the right thing by accommodating the fans but that point seems to be lost on you.

Brusna

martingriff wrote: »

So every game now is right and wrong if full to capacity as people can't go due to capacity?

What?

DONTMATTER

Bonniedog wrote: »

No. But nor do we think we should be expelled like you do.

You have been asked several times what county you are from.

I would make shrewd guess it is one of those counties which allowed itself to be intimidated into abandoning the GAA by the Brits and the Catholic Church after Parnell, at a time when the Munster counties, Dublin, Kilkenny, Galway, Wexford, Louth and a few others kept it going.


Would I be correct now?

No, they should be split!

I represent the smaller counties!

MayoAreMagic

charlie14 wrote: »

But is it ot a bit hypocritical to look after county season ticket holders iwhile at the same time club members who are the lifeblood of clubs have to scramble with people who may have never contributed anything towards the GAA for tickets.


We have been told often enough by the powers that be, and I agree, that clubs are the lifeblood of the organisation, but when it comes to ticket allocation in situations like this then it just sounds very hollow.


Btw, I have no problem with season ticket holders getting first dibs, I`m one myself, but I feel club members should at least get some recognition as well.

It might well be (id argue club members and season ticket holders are often one and the same but I will go with your point for the sake of argument).
The thing is, that this is the system that is in place for all other games bar the AI final. So if it is hypocritical then it is the same for everyone. And if you want to change that then you have to change them all or leave them all as they are.
If other counties can go and buy them online or at supervalue or whatever, then disallowing mayo to do that for this game is discriminating against their fans. If they want to change it, then they have to split the tickets between the clubs for every game.

Otherwise all that is happening is you are just changing the rules to stop one well supported team from bring their big support to an away game, and that is just biased...

So unless they send 50% of rhe upcoming galway-dublin game down to the galway clubs, and 50% of the cavan-tyrone tickets to cavan etc etc, then it is 100% discrimination against the mayo fans

LandersDublin

DONTMATTER wrote: »

No, they should be split!

I represent the smaller counties!

You represent nobody but your self behind an anonymous internet handle.

blanch152

Bonniedog wrote: »

No. But nor do we think we should be expelled like you do.

You have been asked several times what county you are from.

I would make shrewd guess it is one of those counties which allowed itself to be intimidated into abandoning the GAA by the Brits and the Catholic Church after Parnell, at a time when the Munster counties, Dublin, Kilkenny, Galway, Wexford, Louth and a few others kept it going.


Would I be correct now?

He is from a part of the Pale.

km79

FuzzyFrog wrote: »

In a spirit of GAA brotherhood Mayo should turn up and play at Conleth Park in Kildare and really show the GAA that they are out of touch with the people. Discuss

I now firmly support this stance
And in the spirit of the GAA brotherhood Kildare should then leave the pitch and award Mayo a walkover

ProudDUB

LandersDublin wrote: »

Definitely.

Ew an d another poster may be on to something.

salmocab

LandersDublin wrote: »

You represent nobody but your self behind an anonymous internet handle.

It’s people bothering to argue with him that has led him to believe he’s on a crusade. He’s destroying multiple threads because people keep responding to his nonsense.

LandersDublin

salmocab wrote: »

It’s people bothering to argue with him that has led him to believe he’s on a crusade. He’s destroying multiple threads because people keep responding to his nonsense.

His self importance is shocking. Im done with him.

ArielAtom

Bonniedog wrote: »

DONTMATTER wrote: »

The Dubs really have a high opinion of themselves. They think they are the GAA!

No. But nor do we think we should be expelled like you do.

You have been asked several times what county you are from.

I would make shrewd guess it is one of those counties which allowed itself to be intimidated into abandoning the GAA by the Brits and the Catholic Church after Parnell, at a time when the Munster counties, Dublin, Kilkenny, Galway, Wexford, Louth and a few others kept it going.


Would I be correct now?

That would be County Belo Horizonte I presume you allude to😉

ProudDUB

ArielAtom wrote: »

That would be County Belo Horizonte I presume you allude to

A great bunch of lads.

charlie14

LandersDublin wrote: »

If the GAA moved Dublin from Croke Park you could say goodbye to the commercial side of the GAA. Let this be known without Dublin and their huge numbers, the GAA as we know it would not be viable. Figures wise, Dublin are huge to GAA, Like McGregor to the UFC, Man Utd to Football.

Croke Park was not just built with Dublin GAA money and the last time I checked it was still the GAA national stadium, not the property of Dublin GAA.


If your arguement is based soley on commercial reasons then lets talk about that and all it would entail down the road.

To just throw it in here as a reason for Dublin using Croke Park as their home pitch in the context being discussed is disingenuous imho.

LandersDublin

ProudDUB wrote: »

A great bunch of lads.

If he is anything to go by, I refute your suggestion of Great lads.

km79

I think it’s fair to say if the match delivers as much entertainment as this thread we are in for a treat

ProudDUB

LandersDublin wrote: »

If he is anything to go by, I refute your suggestion of Great lads.

The natives are a great bunch of lads.

Blow-ins from Kildare?

Not so much.

LandersDublin

charlie14 wrote: »

Croke Park was not just built with Dublin GAA money and the last time I checked it was still the GAA national stadium, not the property of Dublin GAA.


If your arguement is based soley on commercial reasons then lets talk about that and all it would entail down the road.

To just throw it in here as a reason for Dublin using Croke Park as their home pitch in the context being discussed is disingenuous imho.

When have I ever said that Croke park is a Dublin stadia. What I stated by taking Dublin to smaller venues, which will dwindle fans numbers, resulting in loss of money that could of been made in Croker.
Spending in stadia facilities, Museum. Do you realise the money taken in by the GAA on match day in Croke park.

jj72

LandersDublin wrote: »

Ah here we go, Rubbishhhhhh

Sorry if that's rubbish then your point about the latest Dublin team having huge numbers following them doesn't make sense?? Either you have bigger numbers now or you don't? If anyone's spouting rubbish lad its yourself

Coillte_Bhoy

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

Actually the system is used specifically to allow neutral games to be played as not to bias a group of four in anyone's favour, i.e. no team getting 2 home games while another gets 1. That is the whole point of the system. These neutral games then happened to be placed in croke park, for obvious reasons. But they are still neutral games and this case would now suggest that dublin should play a game in a game down the country. Corks new stadium would be a good option

Sorry but you are completely wrong. It makes perfect sense to launch the series with huge high profile games over a weekend at CP, this was always the intention right from the start. Not one county that i have heard of objects to this

MayoAreMagic

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Sorry but you are completely wrong. It makes perfect sense to launch the series with huge high profile games over a weekend at CP, this was always the intention right from the start. Not one county that i have heard of objects to this

It does, that is why they decided to put the neutral games there...

However, when one game would result in it not being a neutral venue any more, obviously this development with kildare would suggest that this is not in line with what the gaa are going to be doing going forward.

You seem to think that it is mutually exclusive - ie either the games are neutral or they are in croke park. The reality is they are in croke park because it is the best neutral venue.

charlie14

LandersDublin wrote: »

When have I ever said that Croke park is a Dublin stadia. What I stated by taking Dublin to smaller venues, which will dwindle fans numbers, resulting in loss of money that could of been made in Croker.
Spending in stadia facilities, Museum. Do you realise the money taken in by the GAA on match day in Croke park.

With the number of games involving Dublin that have been switched to Croke Park it would not surprise me that many now believe Dublin`s county pitch is Croke Park rather than Parnell Park.


Are you not arguing a point on commercialism in favour of Croke Park and its environment while ignoring the commercial loss to other venues when games are moved.

Are sponsors of other county teams not entitled to feel they are as entitled to a share of the spending around big match days rather than have it all sucked into Dublin by a venue change ?

charlie14

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

It does, that is why they decided to put the neutral games there...

However, when one game would result in it not being a neutral venue any more, obviously this development with kildare would suggest that this is not in line with what the gaa are going to be doing going forward.

You seem to think that it is mutually exclusive - ie either the games are neutral or they are in croke park. The reality is they are in croke park because it is the best neutral venue.

Sorry but I fail to see how Croke Park can be looked upon as a neutral venue for Dublin when they are playing as many if not more games in it both league and championship than they are in their county pitch, Parnell Park.

AMKC

Great to see the GAA finally came to their senses and are having the game where it should have been in the first place at St Conleth's Park Newbridge, Co.Kildare.

Bonniedog

DONTMATTER wrote: »

No, they should be split!

I represent the smaller counties!

In your own mind perhaps. I can't think of one single other poster on this forum that I don't know what county they are from!

Why? Is it that bad?

MayoAreMagic

charlie14 wrote: »

Sorry but I fail to see how Croke Park can be looked upon as a neutral venue for Dublin when they are playing as many if not more games in it both league and championship than they are in their county pitch, Parnell Park.

This is my argument - one of their two games should go to a neutral venue like tipperary or cork

Bonniedog

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

This is my argument - one of their two games should go to a neutral venue like tipperary or cork

Glad to see you back as it is good excuse to distract me from what I ought to be doing! And you are interesting, a bit like Brick in The Middle.

But Jesus man, you are obsessed. Not only did the mess over the Mayo/Kildare not have anything to do with Mayo., but it certainly had nothing whatsoever to do with Dublin

km79

AMKC wrote: »

Great to see the GAA finally came to their senses and are having the game where it should have been in the first place at St Conleth's Park Newbridge, Co.Kildare.

What the Eircode

DONTMATTER

Bonniedog wrote: »

In your own mind perhaps. I can't think of one single other poster on this forum that I don't know what county they are from!

Why? Is it that bad?

No, it's just that I'm too wise for the deflectors.

MayoAreMagic

Bonniedog wrote: »

Glad to see you back as it is good excuse to distract me from what I ought to be doing! And you are interesting, a bit like Brick in The Middle.

But Jesus man, you are obsessed. Not only did the mess over the Mayo/Kildare not have anything to do with Mayo., but it certainly had nothing whatsoever to do with Dublin

It's about gaa fixtures and fairness, and a move in the right direction. Kidare and mayo are relevant in the discussion. Dublin-wicklow, dublin-laois and dublin-carlow are the other relevant cases.

Pass it off as a bias all you want, but deep down you know what im saying is right.

threeball

If Roscommon make the super 8s will they go after their home game. Unlikely now but I'm sure they would have done.

Bonniedog

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

It's about gaa fixtures and fairness, and a move in the right direction. Kidare and mayo are relevant in the discussion. Dublin-wicklow, dublin-laois and dublin-carlow are the other relevant cases.

Pass it off as a bias all you want, but deep down you know what im saying is right.

I don't give a somersaulting fart where Dublin play. Been with hurlers for over 40 years. We go to all sorts of strange places.


Of course Wicklow game should have been in Aughrim. This week proves that these decisions have nothing to do with counties involved. Despite some imbeciles claiming it was to benefit your chaps/

(whispers) : benefits your chaps :-)

Bonniedog

you might also take a quiet moment later and reflect upon the fact that your own county became irrational objects of hate for a decision that had nothpng to do with them.

Just as Dublin footballers having venue shifts was down to Leinster Council on which we have one vote in 12.

Do you see how this works now?

seligehgit

Closing this thread as the matter has now been resolved.