Ireland Under 20 2019 6 Nations and World Championships

foxyladyxx

What a super talented team. Enthralling match!!

Dubinusa

YouTube, YouTube, YouTube

foxyladyxx

Dubinusa wrote: »

YouTube, YouTube, YouTube

England were favourites by 20 points with the bookies, :P

ClanofLams

Last try potentially huge in terms of championship. 5-0 in terms of points on table instead of 4-1

foxyladyxx

Well coached. grew in confidence as game progressed.

Blackheath

Who stood out?

D14Rugby

Great to see a good crowd at the game too. And at the women's game. Moving the game to Cork seems to have been justified

foxyladyxx

Hodnett and Penny for me ..but they were all brilliant.

Oh and Harry Byrne and the full back ..Flannery?

RugbyLover123

Blackheath wrote: »

Who stood out?

Thought the 8, Scott Penny, the 9 (passing was good but box kicking needs a little work) & Harry Byrne. The 15 too. Tbf they all played really well, great performance.

sydthebeat

Blackheath wrote: »

Who stood out?

Byrne, Tierney, hodnett, penny and flannery for me

The Lost Sheep

Blackheath wrote: »

Who stood out?

Hodnett, Tierney, Byrne, Flannery

D14Rugby wrote: »

Great to see a good crowd at the game too. And at the women's game. Moving the game to Cork seems to have been justified

Always was. with loss of A games etc and last few years of all internationals in Dublin always going to be large crowd at one of first internationals in Cork in a few years

The Lost Sheep

Italy beat Scotland 32-22
France Wales is Sunday

typhoony

I thought the Loosehead was impressive, had to come back on after the sin-bin and won the penalty.

LuckyGent88

Just after watching the second half of the game. What a win. Pure grit and determination in that second half.

Deserved to be in the lead after the first half performance but gifted England a lot of there points.

Brilliant performances from all the pack, Casey, Byrne and flannery.

Cowboy848

How did Hawkshaw play? This team showed plenty of grit to grind out that win like Hawkshaw did in school.

foxyladyxx

Cowboy848 wrote: »

How did Hawkshaw play? This team showed plenty of grit to grind out that win like Hawkshaw did in school.

Hawkshaw played well until he went off injured in the second half..

None of them had a poor game. They really gelled particularly in the second half.

I think Hawkshaw had a knock to the knee, ,

PTH2009

Is it like GAA and almost every Irish born player in the senior squads once played for the under 20s ???

You never hear much from ex players about there under age careers ?

The Lost Sheep

PTH2009 wrote: »

Is it like GAA and almost every Irish born player in the senior squads once played for the under 20s???

You never hear much from ex players about there under age careers?

It isnt the case at all and its far from the case with senior pro squads that every irish born player played for irish 20s.
You dont hear too much from retired players on their under age career because its just their age grade career. A stepping stone to playing adult rugby

wp_rathead

Was at the game
Cracking atmosphere
Impressed with both teams fullbacks
Thought Hill was very good for England too
Our 9-10-12 axis was really efficient- all 3 are cracking players
Hodnett, Penny and T-M went great in the pack (everyone did but those 3 stood out to me there)


Love the name Hawkshaw, sounds like he is the Pokémon evolution of Henshaw

T'was a good night

ArmchairQB

Credit where credit is due We’ll done to the 20s & coaching staff. What a result I never expected that. Feared that we would get bet by 30 or more. Great work done with the scrum and locking them out, great performance all round Harlingen Ryan and our back rows put in some big tackles and turnovers that really made a difference. Nice to be proved wrong!!

scrummieman

Of the Leinster Ireland u20 starters

3. Tom Clarkson(Blackrock/DUFC), was excellent, played the whole game at 3, at 18 years old.
4. Charlie Ryan(Blackrock/UCD), was very good, looked much more athletic that last season. Captain after Hawkshaw went off.
6. Martin Moloney(Athy RFC/Old Belvedere), strong 1st half, quieter in the second, was a strong breakdown threat.
7. Scott Penny(St. Michaels/UCD), excellent all round game, tackle machine.
10. Harry Byrne(St. Michaels/Lansdowne), bar one kick, he was excellent.
12. David Hawkshaw(Belvedere/Clontarf), poor pass at the start to give away a try, other than that pretty good.
13. Liam Turner(Blackrock/DUFC), very good, looked very much up to it physically at 13.

Subs
16. John McKee(Campbell/Old Belvedere) - got 10 mins, scrum improved when he came on.
17. Michael Milne(Roscrea/UCD) - struggled with the scrum at the start but adapted well, carried a lot once he came on.
19. Brian Deeny(Wexford RFC/Clontarf) - wasn't on long enough.
21. Cormac Foley(St. Gerards/St. Marys) - wasn't on long, but did very well to score his try to win the game.
23. Rob Russell(St. Michaels/DUFC) - wasn't on long enough.

D14Rugby

One thing I noticed was Harry Byrne went off with a HIA and was back on less than 5 minutes later. Thought it was a mandatory 10 minutes off for hia?

yurtyaherne

D14Rugby wrote: »

One thing I noticed was Harry Byrne went off with a HIA and was back on less than 5 minutes later. Thought it was a mandatory 10 minutes off for hia?

He didn't come back on in the second half so maybe the 10/15 mins at half time was included?

kmart6

10 minutes is the max assessment time.

wp_rathead

D14Rugby wrote: »

One thing I noticed was Harry Byrne went off with a HIA and was back on less than 5 minutes later. Thought it was a mandatory 10 minutes off for hia?

Think the HIA was on going during H/T?

bilston

scrummieman wrote: »

Of the Leinster Ireland u20 starters

3. Tom Clarkson(Blackrock/DUFC), was excellent, played the whole game at 3, at 18 years old.
4. Charlie Ryan(Blackrock/UCD), was very good, looked much more athletic that last season. Captain after Hawkshaw went off.
6. Martin Moloney(Athy RFC/Old Belvedere), strong 1st half, quieter in the second, was a strong breakdown threat.
7. Scott Penny(St. Michaels/UCD), excellent all round game, tackle machine.
10. Harry Byrne(St. Michaels/Lansdowne), bar one kick, he was excellent.
12. David Hawkshaw(Belvedere/Clontarf), poor pass at the start to give away a try, other than that pretty good.
13. Liam Turner(Blackrock/DUFC), very good, looked very much up to it physically at 13.

Subs
16. John McKee(Campbell/Old Belvedere) - got 10 mins, scrum improved when he came on.
17. Michael Milne(Roscrea/UCD) - struggled with the scrum at the start but adapted well, carried a lot once he came on.
19. Brian Deeny(Wexford RFC/Clontarf) - wasn't on long enough.
21. Cormac Foley(St. Gerards/St. Marys) - wasn't on long, but did very well to score his try to win the game.
23. Rob Russell(St. Michaels/DUFC) - wasn't on long enough.

As delighted as I'm sure the rest of us are for Leinster, maybe post this on the Leinster thread!

D14Rugby

wp_rathead wrote: »

Think the HIA was on going during H/T?

Ah didn't realise he didn't come back out to start the half, rte player froze so I missed first 2 minutes of the second half.

kmart6 wrote: »

10 minutes is the max assessment time.

That's blood sub. For a HIA you have to take the full time

kingofthekong

Is the game on RTE player I cant find it?

6elieve

Why didn’t Eoin Byrne make the Ireland squad ,
Great second row plays for st marys

The Lost Sheep

6elieve wrote: »

Why didn’t Eoin Byrne make the Ireland squad ,
Great second row plays for st marys

who?
Playing what level for Marys? Has he played for Leinster?

6elieve

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

who?
Playing what level for Marys? Has he played for Leinster?

Eoin Byrne , he plays for the marys first team, absolute animal. 6”8 and 110kg at least. He’s born in 2000 so I presume they are saving him for next year .... never seen a man so talented at securing lineout ball.

D14Rugby

6elieve wrote: »

Eoin Byrne , he plays for the marys first team, absolute animal. 6”8 and 110kg at least. He’s born in 2000 so I presume they are saving him for next year .... never seen a man so talented at securing lineout ball.

Well that's just a load of bollix.

For context this lad actually subs for Marys u20s team is actually pretty tall but nowhere near 110kg. Presume this poster is either him or a mate.

6elieve

D14Rugby wrote: »

Well that's just a load of bollix.

For context this lad actually subs for Marys u20s team is actually pretty tall but nowhere near 110kg. Presume this poster is either him or a mate.

Why are you always so passive and rude, no need for it.

Cowboy848

My thoughts on the 20’s this weekend: Firstly I thought it was a big selection risk leaving Milne and French out of the team but it proved to be the right call in the end. McNamara will be counting his chickens after those calls and the result going his way after last years campaign and results. Can I say that I remember Wyhcherly being bigger at school than he looked out on the 20’s pitch – maybe that’s just comparison to the opposition he faced both on Friday night and against other schools but he looked slightly small in my eyes compared to Milne/Clarkson and the English props. He had a solid enough game so I don’t think he’ll be too worried about his place although Milne looks like he can make the grade at Professional and International level despite his collapsing of the scrum when he came on.

Which brings me to another point – why are we changing props positions so often in our pro set ups? I can think of Porter and Milne both changing sides of the scrum they played on at schools level. I don’t know if this is with a view to requirements in each position or if it is because coaches think they are more suited to propping on the opposite side but the 2 props in question have had scrummaging issues since they have made the change. On the tighthead side I thought Clarkson looked the part and had a good game along with Tierney-Martin who got 2 tries. Charlie Ryan looked very good all around the pitch and seems to have the height to make it as a second row forward in the pro/international game. I thought in the backrow Hodnett carried well all day despite being slightly undersized and Penny racked up a big tackle count. I think he needs to be better at jackalling to be a top class 7 but his workrate is quite good.

Scrumhalf was a tough little lad and had a good game – Casey I think his name was. Foley obviously came on and scored but I’m yet to be convinced with Foley after what I saw of him at schools. Harry Byrne had a good game and his highlight reel was well documented by the RTE panel on Friday night no need to re-hash it here other than to say he’s promising if he can show he has an extra bit of pace than his brother and can tackle effectively he’ll make it through to a senior contract. Centres were my highlight of the night. I thought Hawkshaw did really well in several situations he was involved in and Turner made some nice outside half breaks. Both looked hungry for work and not afraid of contact. I thought the all Munster back 3 were very good despite Phillips reminding me a bit of Adam Byrne – by stuffing up a few gilt edged opportunities. All in all very promising but I think French will get selected next week after Hawkshaws injury and perhaps we might see Baird come back in before the end of the championship which will be exciting.

kingofthekong

Still cant find the game on the RTE player is it because I'm in the UK ?

troyzer

kingofthekong wrote: »

Still cant find the game on the RTE player is it because I'm in the UK ?

What happens when you use this link:

https://beta.rte.ie/player/series/u20-s-six-nations-live-s201-e1/SI0000004872?epguid=IH000378945

kingofthekong

I get a page saying . " Uh oh. Looks like you're lost...
Seems like the page you were looking for doesn't exist."

I've tried changing my IP address to Ireland but RTE player is the inly website which still blocks it even with a changed ip

kingofthekong

Why are RTE so strict??

Is there anyone else in the UK that has a trick for getting passed it?

troyzer

kingofthekong wrote: »

I get a page saying . " Uh oh. Looks like you're lost...
Seems like the page you were looking for doesn't exist."

I've tried changing my IP address to Ireland but RTE player is the inly website which still blocks it even with a changed ip

Try this one:

https://www.rte.ie/player/series/u20-s-six-nations-live/SI0000004872?epguid=IH000378945

kingofthekong

Still get the same link error, It seems to be an issue with RTE I can do it with any other country with no issues,

I appreciate your help

kingofthekong

Bought a second VPN blocker and this time it works, thanks a million

troyzer

Great stuff.

kingofthekong

Ah looked like it had worked but its still saying rights restriction, nevermind

troyzer

kingofthekong wrote: »

Ah looked like it had worked but its still saying rights restriction, nevermind

Was it not on Sky over there?

kingofthekong

Id have a better chance of watching Putin in his home via livestream then getting passed RTE's strange geo blocking

kingofthekong

troyzer wrote: »

Was it not on Sky over there?

Nope I was hoping for that too , think they only televise the home games

Dubinusa

Please feel free to post the match on you tube. I won't mind!!

D14Rugby

6elieve wrote: »

Why are you always so passive and rude, no need for it.

Passive? Sorry if I hurt your feelings Eoin.

Cowboy848 wrote: »

Which brings me to another point – why are we changing props positions so often in our pro set ups? I can think of Porter and Milne both changing sides of the scrum they played on at schools level. I don’t know if this is with a view to requirements in each position or if it is because coaches think they are more suited to propping on the opposite side but the 2 props in question have had scrummaging issues since they have made the change.

Because until U20 level side of the scrum doesn't really matter so players go on either side to just get the best players on the pitch. Once the pro coaches get a look at them they try sort out their side of the scrum then.

Sunderland00

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

who?
Playing what level for Marys? Has he played for Leinster?

So he should be called up to the Ireland u20s team beacuase he’s tall, heavy and benches for a premier 2 Mary’s team...

6elieve

Sunderland00 wrote: »

So he should be called up to the Ireland u20s team beacuase he’s tall, heavy and benches for a premier 2 Mary’s team...

Have you ever seen him play ? Didn’t think so. Thank you, next