Ireland Under 20 2019 6 Nations and World Championships

Squidgy Black

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

ped at this level

Unavailable due to injury
Harry Byrne, Brian Deeny, David Hawkshaw, Martin Moloney, Scott Penny, Conor Phillips

That's some list of players out injured.

Clegg

Missing our best 10, 12 (who was also captain) and best player in Penney.

The squad did brilliantly to absorb the injuries to Byrne and Hawkshaw midway through the 6 Nations campaign. Might be a step too far now though. But they're very well coached so they'll make a proper go of the World Championship despite missing a lot of talent.

hype101

Does anyone know much about Cormac Izuchukwu?..He was drafted into the Irish 7s this week.. Roscrea I think.. He's under age this year and next.. A 6'7 centre who has the gas to play 7s is usually pretty handy to have about.

Lucas44

hype101 wrote: »

Does anyone know much about Cormac Izuchukwu?..He was drafted into the Irish 7s this week.. Roscrea I think.. He's under age this year and next.. A 6'7 centre who has the gas to play 7s is usually pretty handy to have about.

Plays second row and centre, didn’t get feature in sct until in 6th year and wasn’t great, also not playing AIL this year so I’d say 7s will be the place for him

realhorrorshow

Lucas44 wrote: »

Plays second row and centre, didn’t get feature in sct until in 6th year and wasn’t great, also not playing AIL this year so I’d say 7s will be the place for him

He was playing second tier in Scotland I think, wonder would it be the equivalent of AIL 2A or B.

Is Penny overage now?

The Lost Sheep

Deleted User wrote: »

Is Penny overage now?

No. injured.

Dubinusa

Not very confident about our prospects! The injury bug strikes again. Hawkshaw and Byrne are massive losses, but Maloney and Penny could be the straw that breaks our hearts.

worldcupfever

Squad breakdown

LH Prop
Josh Wycherley(Bantry Bay RFC-CC Roscrea/Young Munster) - 5 caps
Michael Milne(Birr RFC-CC Roscrea/UCD) - 3 caps

Wycherley started and played the majority of every game during the under-20 6 nations, Milne who is a destructive carrier had the sub appearances before injury ended his 6 nations early.

TH Prop
Tom Clarkson(Blackrock College/DUFC) - under 19, 5 caps.
Charlie Ward(Tullow RFC/Clontarf) - under 19, uncapped.

Clarkson started and played the majority of every game during the under-20 6 nations, Ward was injured during the 6 nations and has somewhat surprisingly made this squad ahead of older options who were in the squad during the 6 nations - Lomas, Masters.

Hooker
Dylan Tierney Martin(Corinthians RFC) - 6 caps.
John McKee(Campbell College/Old Belvedere) - under-19, 4 caps.
Declan Adamson(Clontarf RFC) - uncapped.

Martin started and played the majority of every game during the under-20 6 nations, McKee was the primary backup during the 6 nations and will return next season. Adamson somewhat surprisingly made the squad ahead of Billy Scannell given Scannell was ahead of him during the 6 nations but a strong AIL season for Adamson has been rewarded.

Lock
Charlie Ryan(Blackrock College/UCD) - 9 caps.
Ryan Baird(St. Michaels College/DUFC) - 2 caps.
Niall Murray(Buccaneers RFC) - 5 caps.
Tom Ahern(Dungarvan RFC/Shannon) - under-19, uncapped.

Ryan returns from last season and will captain the side at the World cup, no relation to the older Ryan who recently captained Ireland u20, Charlie is a workhorse tighthead lock who started all 5 games during the 6 nations. Baird who missed the first three games due to injury, is a potential difference maker for ireland this world cup, recently made his debut for leinster in the pro 14. Murray who started all 5 game during the 6 nations is very athletic and could lineup at blindside. Ahern who makes the squad due to injury, will be back next season is a super athlete for the position.

Backrow
John Hodnett(Clonakilty RFC/UCC) - 5 caps.
Azur Allison(Ballymena Academy/Ballymena) - uncapped.
Ronan Watters(St. Marys College/St. Marys) - 1 cap.
David McCann(RBAI/Banbridge) - under-19, 3 caps.
Ciaran Booth(Sale Sharks) - under-19, uncapped.

Hodnett who started all 5 games during the 6 nations at 8, will likely feature heavily at 7 during the world cup. Has been compared to SOB due to size and style of play. Allison missed the 6 nations due to injury, will likely feature heavily at 8 during this tournament, is somewhat similar to Max Deegan is style of play. Watters is a versatile backrow who has experience at all three backrow positions. McCann who will be back next season, is a massively physical player who cover 6 and 8. Booth who was a late inclusion due to injury covers 6 and 7.

Scrumhalf
Craig Casey(Ardscoil Ris/Shannon) - 4 caps.
Cormac Foley(St. Gerards College/St.Marys) - 4 caps.
Colm Reilly(Buccaneers RFC) - 2 caps.

The diminutive Casey was a star during the 6 nations and will need to be the same during the world cup. Foley was the primary backup during the 6 nations during his 1st season playing 9 full time. Reilly scored the winning try for the grand slam. Somewhat surprising ireland are being 3 scrumhalves, Foley does have experience of playing 10 and 12 so might be needed there in case of emergency.

Outhalf
Ben Healy(Glenstal Abbey/Garryowen) - 2 caps
Jake Flannery(Rockwell College/Shannon) - 5 caps

Healy who started the 3 games that Harry Byrne missed during the 6 nations will likely start the 1st game, while Flannery who was primarily starting fullback during the 6 nations until he replaced Healy against Wales to win the game looks likely to be the backup. Don't rule out this changing as the world cup goes on.

Outside Backs
Sean French(PBC/Cork Con) - 3 caps.
Stewart Moore(Ballymena/Malone) - uncapped.
Liam Turner(Blackrock/DUFC) - 5 caps.
Rob Russell(St.Michaels/DUFC) - 5 caps.
Jonathan Wren(PBC/Cork Con) - 5 caps.
Iwan Hughes(Exile/Ballynahinch) - uncapped.
Angus Kernohan(Ballymena/Queens) - 6 caps.

Wren(11) & Turner(13) started all 5 games during the 6 nations, Turner has experience of playing on the wing also while Wren could also feature at 15. Russell covers the back three and did so from the bench during the 6 nations. Kernohan has a lot experience at pro 14 level on the wing but could also lineup at centre. French who is a star in attack could played any position from 12 out, his defence was tested during the 6 nations and he will need to show improvement there if he lines up at centre. Hughes was a unused sub during the wales game and covers the back three. Finally Moore, missed the 6 nations due to concussion and has the potential to be a star performer at 12 or 13.


Likely 1st XV

1. Josh Wycherley
2. Dylan Tierney Martin
3. Tom Clarkson
4. Ryan Baird
5. Charlie Ryan
6. Niall Murray
7. John Hodnett
8. Azur Allison
9. Craig Casey
10. Ben Healy
11. Jonathan Wren
12. Stewart Moore
13. Liam Turner
14. Sean French
15. Jake Flannery

kingofthekong

Yep injury cripples the squad again, really disappointing . - wouldnt expect them to beat England with that team, might give Australia a go but Australia just beat NZ

Lucas44

kingofthekong wrote: »

Yep injury cripples the squad again, really disappointing . - wouldnt expect them to beat England with that team, might give Australia a go but Australia just beat NZ

If you take away Harry Byrne and penny the replacements for each other position are as good if not better, Moore is every bit as good as hawkshaw and more of a threat with ball in hand, Allison is a good bit better than Molony, Baird although in the row will bring the carrying and physicality missed by penny and French is probably our best attacker.. although there’s a few missing if the starting 15 avoid injuries there’s no reason why we can’t do well, the English team we played in cork were a far more star studded team than what’s available in the world cup

kingofthekong

Molony is a different player to Allison, Molony was relenltess in defense and in the ruck for Ireland and a massive reason why they were succesful, also Penney is probabaly the best player in that pack of forewards,

But I hope you are right and I am wrong

kingofthekong

When is the team named?

kingofthekong

England U20s named, look very very strong

Buer

15. Iwan Hughes (Ballynahinch/Ulster) *
14. Angus Kernohan (Queen’s University/Ulster)
13. Liam Turner (Dublin University/Leinster)
12. Stewart Moore (Malone/Ulster) *
11. Jonathan Wren (Cork Constitution/Munster)
10. Jake Flannery (Shannon/Munster)
9. Craig Casey (Shannon/Munster)
1. Josh Wycherley (Young Munster/Munster)
2. Dylan Tierney-Martin (Corinthians/Connacht)
3. Thomas Clarkson (Dublin University/Leinster)
4. Charlie Ryan (UCD/Leinster) (capt)
5. Ryan Baird (Dublin University/Leinster)
6. David McCann (Banbridge/Ulster)
7. John Hodnett (UCC/Munster)
8. Azur Allison (Ballymena/Ulster) *

Replacements:

16. Declan Adamson (Clontarf/Leinster) *
17. Michael Milne (UCD/Leinster)
18. Charlie Ward (Clontarf/Leinster) *
19. John McKee (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
20. Ronan Watters (St. Mary’s College/Leinster)
21. Niall Murray (Buccaneers/Connacht)
22. Thomas Ahern (Shannon/Munster) *
23. Ciaran Booth (Sale Sharks/IQ Rugby) *
24. Colm Reilly (Buccaneers/Connacht)
25. Cormac Foley (St. Mary’s College/Leinster)
26. Ben Healy (Garryowen/Munster)
27. Sean French (Cork Constitution/Munster)
28. Rob Russell (Dublin University/Leinster)

thomond2006

I thought Jake Flannery was a back three player?

Edit: A quick Google tells me he's more of a 10.

bilston

I'm looking forward to seeing Moore and Allison and also to seeing Casey again. Based on the 6Ns he is far and away the best U20 scrum half I've seen from Ireland.

kingofthekong

Anyone know if you can purchase eir sport for only online viewing via laptop in the UK without buying a box and broadband etc?

mogwai81

Anyone know if World Rugby are streaming the Ireland v England match tonight? Outside of Ireland so I can’t watch it on Eir.

Squidgy Black

kingofthekong wrote: »

Anyone know if you can purchase eir sport for only online viewing via laptop in the UK without buying a box and broadband etc?

mogwai81 wrote: »

Anyone know if World Rugby are streaming the Ireland v England match tonight? Outside of Ireland so I can’t watch it on Eir.

Games will be streamed on YouTube by world rugby

Digifriendly

Blank screen on Premier Sports 1 due to World U 20 Rugby Championship being shown live on Eir Sport 1. This is presumably blanked out on PS1 and Eir Sport 1 in N. Ireland because ITV hold UK rights yet ITV show no live coverage of U20 WC until next week due to French Open tennis. Also live coverage is available of this rugby via both Youtube and IRB website and there is no geoblocking.
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Cosmo Kramer

Apparently only the final will be geoblocked in the UK. A shame that Premier Sports can't show the games that ITV aren't showing. Anyway YouTube it is.

shootermacg

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Games will be streamed on YouTube by world rugby

Looking at the you0tube channel, it says not available in Ireland.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ1m_8kQgjM

Squidgy Black

Geoblocking events like this is mental to me.

Not many people are going to take out an EirSport subscription to watch an underage rugby tournament.

Squidgy Black

shootermacg wrote: »

Looking at the you0tube channel, it says not available in Ireland.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ1m_8kQgjM

Geoblocked in Ireland because it's being shown on EirSport

shootermacg

VPN it is so..Looks OK if you VPN from France.

thomond2006

This isn't looking good so far. Some fantastic hands for that try.

clsmooth

Some famous surnames in that English team. Who are the stand outs for Ireland at this level aside from Casey with Byrne and Penny out?

OldRio

Deary me. This might get ugly. Early days yet but..........

Squidgy Black

English 5 couldn't have been more blatantly in from the side when they were at the base of the posts there.

is_that_so

10-7! Great try. Leinster or Munster would be proud of that!

OldRio

OldRio wrote: »

Deary me. This might get ugly. Early days yet but..........

And what the hell does an old second rower know?

foxyladyxx

is_that_so wrote: »

10-7! Great try. Leinster or Munster would be proud of that!

Who scored it?

AdamD

foxyladyxx wrote: »

Who scored it?

Jake Flannery from close range. Big block down for Charlie Ryan led to it

Diabhal Beag

Have pissed away two decent chances in the 22 since the Flannery try.

Squidgy Black

Getting absolutely demolished at the ruck.

foxyladyxx

Penny is a huge loss

kingofthekong

Allison didn't last long

Squidgy Black

The lads must've learnt something from watching Murray against Toulon!

Diabhal Beag

Great try and a brilliant conversion

The Lost Sheep

Excellent laws knowledge from ireland

Faugheen

Who was it that claimed the kick-off in the build up to that try?

Absolute balls that took even in senior test rugby never mind u20s.

Squidgy Black

Faugheen wrote: »

Who was it that claimed the kick-off in the build up to that try?

Absolute balls that took even in senior test rugby never mind u20s.

Tierney-Martin, I've never seen a front row compete in an aerial contest.

Faugheen

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Tierney-Martin, I've never seen a front row compete in an aerial contest.

He just won a penalty too. Is scrummaging and tackling all over the park. Having a stormer of a game so far.

AdamD

I know there's mitigating factors but that's a disgusting tackle in my opinion

clsmooth

AdamD wrote: »

I know there's mitigating factors but that's a disgusting tackle in my opinion

He knew exactly what he was doing. Bit of a cheap shot.

Lucas44

Harsh yellow there Hinckley couldn’t of got any lower with Kernohan moving down as Hinckley was approaching, a lot of big decisions going our way

Faugheen

Lucas44 wrote: »

Harsh yellow there Hinckley couldn’t of got any lower with Kernohan moving down as Hinckley was approaching, a lot of big decisions going our way

He knew exactly what he was doing. Yellow very much deserved.

Squidgy Black

AdamD wrote: »

I know there's mitigating factors but that's a disgusting tackle in my opinion

I'm not sure. There's only a split second before Kernohan starts kneeling to take the catch, and he hits him in the shoulder but rides up. If Kernohan is an inch or two higher from kneeling that's a perfect hit.

The Lost Sheep

AdamD wrote: »

I know there's mitigating factors but that's a disgusting tackle in my opinion

Could only have been a yellow at max for me. Wasnt that bad though could easily been worse