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_Brian

Suckler wrote: »

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/biochar-from-rushes-worth-1-750-t-441995

I knew the rushes would be useful someday...

No subscription:(

Another reason to hate the rag!

whelan2

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Reading must be done by the end date stated on the letter. We had to get the herd tested to be read read on Christmas eve because nobody wanted to test over Christmas and reading on Jan 2nd wasn't popular either.


Clear test this morning as well:)

We pushed the testing date out last year. By ten days. We always had tested in March and it was now coming due in February. Testi g next week. There was no problem doing this

KatyMac

I had my test read on Saturday. I've been working on it for the past few years to get it to this time of the year - it used to be just after Christmas, 2nd Jan as far as I can remember.

kk.man

KatyMac wrote: »

I had my test read on Saturday. I've been working on it for the past few years to get it to this time of the year - it used to be just after Christmas, 2nd Jan as far as I can remember.

I moved mine this year too. When you move it ...is that the date set for next year?

tanko

kk.man wrote: »

I moved mine this year too. When you move it ...is that the date set for next year?

Yeah, thats the date set for next year.

Buford T. Justice XIX

tanko wrote: »

Yeah, thats the date set for next year.

Afaik, it isn't. Each area has a defined test time and all the tests must be carried out during that time, 2 months or so. It's different with TB in an area alright but I think you will be restricted unless you test inside that time period normally?

Ours used have to be done before the end of November but it has to be done before the end of September now.

Might be one for greysides to sort?

mayota

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Next thing you'll get a letter in the post announcing that your herd is now restricted, and even if it was an annual test that the Dept. would have paid for, now you must pay for it.
( Plus the usual Dept rider about losing part of your SFP, 25,000 euro fine, 6 months jail, or all of the above)

Never had any of that.

charolais0153

_Brian wrote: »

No subscription:(

Another reason to hate the rag!

Double standards much?. You give put when the farmer isnt fairly rewarded yet you hate when another company tries to make its way?

Nekarsulm

mayota wrote: »

Never had any of that.

You might have to be 21 days late.





PS, its 250,000 Euro fine, not 25,000 euro!

greysides

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Afaik, it isn't. Each area has a defined test time and all the tests must be carried out during that time, 2 months or so. It's different with TB in an area alright but I think you will be restricted unless you test inside that time period normally?

Ours used have to be done before the end of November but it has to be done before the end of September now.

By and large I think you're correct with what you say. TB in an area or on a farm can throw you off the general pattern of testing. I think you can bring forward a test to a time that suits you better in the hope it stays at that. But if a neighbouring farm goes down the follow-up testing can put you out again.

_Brian

charolais0153 wrote: »

Double standards much?. You give put when the farmer isnt fairly rewarded yet you hate when another company tries to make its way?

I think charging for hard copy and online is pulling the plumb a bit.

It’s not like the hard copy for cheaper when they started charging for the site access.

Nekarsulm

PS, about that Dept. letter above, it was particulary annoying to recieve as I have no cattle on the herd profile since December 17nt!

Computer systems not talking to each other, me-thinks

wrangler

_Brian wrote: »

I think charging for hard copy and online is pulling the plumb a bit.

It’s not like the hard copy for cheaper when they started charging for the site access.

You get access when you buy the hard copy, probaby could get the password frm someone not using it

whelan2

Nekarsulm wrote: »

PS, about that Dept. letter above, it was particulary annoying to recieve as I have no cattle on the herd profile since December 17nt!

Computer systems not talking to each other, me-thinks

What happens if you don't have the €250000 to pay the fine

Grueller

whelan2 wrote: »

What happens if you don't have the €250000 to pay the fine

If you were a scrote they would send you to Mountjoy for ten minutes, tgen let you out with a meal voucher, a bus ticket and the debt written off.
If you are a decent law abiding citizen they would badger you until you or yhey sold stock and assets to pay them.

Hard Knocks

Grueller wrote: »

If you were a scrote they would send you to Mountjoy for ten minutes, tgen let you out with a meal voucher, a bus ticket and the debt written off.
If you are a decent law abiding citizen they would badger you until you or yhey sold stock and assets to pay them.

And probably the following year come after you for the tax on the sold stock

Willfarman

Just finished the series on Netflix tonight thank god. Dirty John. Disturbing isn’t the word! Lost a bit of sleep last night on the back of it.

longgonesilver

Why, was he reusing his takeaway containers? 😩😩

roosterman71

Willfarman wrote: »

Just finished the series on Netflix tonight thank god. Dirty John. Disturbing isn’t the word! Lost a bit of sleep last night on the back of it.

Mrs. subjected me to that show. It was a strange one, and one I thought was absolutely ridiculous. Seemed to be no structure to it, story all over the place. Was not a fan

Suckler

Willfarman wrote: »

Just finished the series on Netflix tonight thank god. Dirty John. Disturbing isn’t the word! Lost a bit of sleep last night on the back of it.

roosterman71 wrote: »

Mrs. subjected me to that show. It was a strange one, and one I thought was absolutely ridiculous. Seemed to be no structure to it, story all over the place. Was not a fan

I listened to the podcast of the same story, good listen but christ she was gullible.

Willfarman

Suckler wrote: »

I listened to the podcast of the same story, good listen but christ she was gullible.

Infuriatingly so but physchopaths are often very charismatic and have an hypnotic effect on us folk if we are not wary of it.. my mother in law has a saying. Thank god for letting the quare fellows pass by my door. And it’s so true.

ganmo

https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/news/world-news/german-farmer-ordered-to-pay-over-480k-after-tourist-killed-by-herd-of-cows-37851418.html?fbclid=IwAR3Q6KApoGbH3tCg4sIslJp0EiLOWRUdZVgTlXmuDMEQj8Oxh1NkUIw6lxA

this case might be worth following, threats of ending animal grazing in germany etc

marathon

Quick q. Does Zanil drench do for fluke and worms or just fluke? Instructions wiped off front

whelan2

marathon wrote: »

Quick q. Does Zanil drench do for fluke and worms or just fluke? Instructions wiped off front

Just says liver flike and tape worms. Would need to use something else too

patsy_mccabe

marathon wrote: »

Quick q. Does Zanil drench do for fluke and worms or just fluke? Instructions wiped off front

https://www.hpra.ie/img/uploaded/swedocuments/Licence_VPA10996-262-001_24112017183232.pdf

Nekarsulm

ganmo wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/news/world-news/german-farmer-ordered-to-pay-over-480k-after-tourist-killed-by-herd-of-cows-37851418.html?fbclid=IwAR3Q6KApoGbH3tCg4sIslJp0EiLOWRUdZVgTlXmuDMEQj8Oxh1NkUIw6lxA

this case might be worth following, threats of ending animal grazing in germany etc

Someone should point out to the Independent that a court case in Austria is hardly likely to change the law, or Agriculture, in Germany!

charolais0153

Willfarman wrote: »

Infuriatingly so but physchopaths are often very charismatic and have an hypnotic effect on us folk if we are not wary of it.. my mother in law has a saying. Thank god for letting the quare fellows pass by my door. And it’s so true.

There was something about this lad that murdered his family on rte last night aswell. A psycopath aswell

whelan2

charolais0153 wrote: »

There was something about this lad that murdered his family on rte last night aswell. A psycopath aswell

That was just awful what he did

Hard Knocks

Due a herd test and preparing a bull for a sale
how long does export test last is it 30 days?
How long after the test can he be retested to have an export cert?

Nekarsulm

Interesting page from this weeks Farmers Weekly, re British Agriculture in 1973 versus 2017

greysides

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Due a herd test and preparing a bull for a sale
how long does export test last is it 30 days?
How long after the test can he be retested to have an export cert?

Export test lasts 30 days.

Usual interval between tests is 60 days but I think it can be 42 days at times.

Best thing to do is ring your local DVO and get the info from the horse's mouth.

whelan2

If a vet is on route to an emergency call out, do they have to keep to the speed limit and why don't vets have beacons or flashing lights for when they are going to an emergency?

greysides

No flashing lights and keep to the limits.
There was an article recently saying that the Coastguard were no longer able to use lights and sirens and they are the fourth emergency services. Even the gardai have to specifically trained to use them and not all are.

Reggie.

whelan2 wrote: »

If a vet is on route to an emergency call out, do they have to keep to the speed limit and why don't vets have beacons or flashing lights for when they are going to an emergency?

It's say as it's an animal life and not human life that is at risk

Muckit

My pet chihuahua is in a bad way! Get here as fast as you can!!!

Dublin city traffic grinds to a standstill, the streets aswash with blue lights and blaring sirens as emergency services rush to tend to little Toodles.

148multi

greysides wrote: »

No flashing lights and keep to the limits.
There was an article recently saying that the Coastguard were no longer able to use lights and sirens and they are the fourth emergency services. Even the gardai have to specifically trained to use them and not all are.

Think the fire brigade can't break the speed limits, at least that's what we are told locally.

patsy_mccabe

148multi wrote: »

Think the fire brigade can't break the speed limits, at least that's what we are told locally.

When I worked in Dublin, I ended up following a fire brigade one morning for a good few miles as they happened to be going the same way. After a good few turns they ended up in a petrol station with all of them queuing up for breakfast rolls. Lights and sirens flashing the whole way.

KatyMac

Did anyone see the article about the charge of €500 for out of hours vet call out? I will greet my vet with hugs and kisses from now on, his call out is €60!!! But in all fairness that's crazy money - what animal is worth that, unless they are pedigree to the highest order of pedigree. I try very hard to keep my animals healthy but in no way could I afford that.

whelan2

KatyMac wrote: »

Did anyone see the article about the charge of €500 for out of hours vet call out? I will greet my vet with hugs and kisses from now on, his call out is €60!!! But in all fairness that's crazy money - what animal is worth that, unless they are pedigree to the highest order of pedigree. I try very hard to keep my animals healthy but in no way could I afford that.

Vet was saying that yesterday, apparently it's an English company buying up vet practices and they are picking and choosing who they'll visit....vet also used sugar on the cows womb yesterday before putting it back in. Do many vets do that?

_Brian

KatyMac wrote: »

Did anyone see the article about the charge of €500 for out of hours vet call out? I will greet my vet with hugs and kisses from now on, his call out is €60!!! But in all fairness that's crazy money - what animal is worth that, unless they are pedigree to the highest order of pedigree. I try very hard to keep my animals healthy but in no way could I afford that.

First thing that struck me was that a charge for clients who were slow to pay their bills.

whelan2

_Brian wrote: »

First thing that struck me was that a charge for clients who were slow to pay their bills.

That's what I said too.

wrangler

whelan2 wrote: »

Vet was saying that yesterday, apparently it's an English company buying up vet practices and they are picking and choosing who they'll visit....vet also used sugar on the cows womb yesterday before putting it back in. Do many vets do that?

That's an old remedy, heard of it years ago

KatyMac

wrangler wrote: »

That's an old remedy, heard of it years ago

Seen that back in my young days by an old fashioned vet - something about it reduces the serum and makes it easier to put back. The same vet used to give my mother advice like giving calves a drop of washup liquid in their feed if they had bad stomachs - seemed to work as far as I can remember too.

whelan2

wrangler wrote: »

That's an old remedy, heard of it years ago

This was a young vet, a good vet

KatyMac

whelan2 wrote: »

This was a young vet, a good vet

It's good that some remedies that might not exactly have up to date veterinary science attached to them are being used. Anyone every use bread and hot water wrapped up in a bandage as a poultice? That was another one from the old vet.

wrangler

whelan2 wrote: »

This was a young vet, a good vet

Cows innards haven't changed, it still works obviously
It helps to shrink it

visatorro

_Brian wrote: »

First thing that struck me was that a charge for clients who were slow to pay their bills.

My old vet was stung badly by one farmer.
Remember there was a 30 day limit for call outs and no credit for stuff bought in shop. Couldn't blame him .

But someone said that they can't refuse to attend to a sick animal, dunno how true that is.

whelan2

visatorro wrote: »

My old vet was stung badly by one farmer.
Remember there was a 30 day limit for call outs and no credit for stuff bought in shop. Couldn't blame him .

But someone said that they can't refuse to attend to a sick animal, dunno how true that is.

Vet had told me you can be unavailable to attend a call

Nekarsulm

wrangler wrote: »

That's an old remedy, heard of it years ago

Saw it done on a cow with a prolasped calfbed. (35 years ago now, dunno where those years went).
The mothers good white bed sheet was never the same afterwards, either......

Nekarsulm

KatyMac wrote: »

It's good that some remedies that might not exactly have up to date veterinary science attached to them are being used. Anyone every use bread and hot water wrapped up in a bandage as a poultice? That was another one from the old vet.

Bread poultice used here on an abscess, also mashed spuds and turnip. Should be as hot as is bearable.