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Say my name wrote: »

A million calves drown in Nebraska and livelihoods washed away and the media's response in this part of the world is .....Mehhh..pass..What hair do has John Delaney today?

Only for social media. There wouldn't be a clue known about it on this side of the world.

https://twitter.com/mjaeger6/status/1111689750988161025?s=20

greysides

Romaine wrote: »

I dropped a bottle of Synulox yesterday, it broke but I saved half of it, is it still useable once exposed to the air?

I'd be more worried about glass shards than air which will leak in through a pierced cap anyway.

Base price

Base price wrote: »

Happiness is finding the calf that you have been tubing for a week on her feet and then her sucking from the teat feeder.

Feckit I found her dead earlier. I brought her to the Vet last Saturday and Vet said she had an issue with her heart and it could go either way. Anyway it went the wrong way but if your like me you have to keep trying. She was sucking the speedy feeder and nipping at crunch since.

Lady Haywire

Base price wrote: »

Feckit I found her dead earlier. I brought her to the Vet last Saturday and Vet said she had an issue with her heart and it could go either way. Anyway it went the wrong way but if your like me you have to keep trying. She was sucking the speedy feeder and nipping at crunch since.

Feck it BP, sorry to hear it. Had you ever seen it playing?
Two calves I know of which died & had been diagnosed with heart issues never played around the pen, just moped. So in hindsight was a good indicator of something not right.

Base price

kollegeknight wrote: »

Strange question. I was scraping slats today and I saw what looks like nipples on the bulls ball sack. Could this be right? They are too regular looking to be warts.

It's normal and don't worry about it.
Having said that I always wondered if bull elephants had nipples on their scrotums.

Base price

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Feck it BP, sorry to hear it. Had you ever seen it playing?
Two calves I know of which died & had been diagnosed with heart issues never played around the pen, just moped. So in hindsight was a good indicator of something not right.

She was healthy when I bought her and she leaped off the ramp of the lorry when I got her home. TBH I didn't notice if she played as she was amongst several calves that I bought that day.

I put her in a isolation pen two days later as she wasn't greedy on the teat feeder and was dull. Our Vet reckoned that her heart was racing but she didn't have a heart murmur if that means anything.

Romaine

greysides wrote: »

I'd be more worried about glass shards than air which will leak in through a pierced cap anyway.

I asked a vet that came in to yard for other reasons and he gave the ok and a couple of free syringes, erred on the side of Caution and gave one last shot.

Base price

Say my name wrote: »

Only for social media. There wouldn't be a clue known about it on this side of the world.

https://twitter.com/mjaeger6/status/1111689750988161025?s=20

The same could be said for https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/47653713
IMO the USA economy is well and able to fund/support those farmers.

Base price

Romaine wrote: »

Was doing a favour for a neighbour which makes it worse. Second bottle I've dropped in the last few months.

IMO doing favours for neighbours with V-POM medecines never bodes well.
If your neighbour can't afford to pay her/his local Vet than they should'nt be keeping livestock.

whelan2

Base price wrote: »

Feckit I found her dead earlier. I brought her to the Vet last Saturday and Vet said she had an issue with her heart and it could go either way. Anyway it went the wrong way but if your like me you have to keep trying. She was sucking the speedy feeder and nipping at crunch since.

I hate that. You'd nearly prefer they died the first day than getting your hopes up. Any chance she had been injected before you got her to mask her symptoms?

Base price

whelan2 wrote: »

I hate that. You'd nearly prefer they died the first day than getting your hopes up. Any chance she had been injected before you got her to mask her symptoms?

I really doubt it. We buy all his FR bull and cross bred calves every year.
He is the same farmer that I got Daisy from and if she has a heifer calf I give her back to him when it's off milk and tested.
** I have a video of Daisy eating one of her 5 a day but unfortunately I can't/don't know how to load it onto F&F.

ganmo

Base price wrote: »

I really doubt it. We buy all his FR bull and cross bred calves every year.
He is the same farmer that I got Daisy from and if she has a heifer calf I give her back to him when it's off milk and tested.
** I have a video of Daisy eating one of her 5 a day but unfortunately I can't/don't know how to load it onto F&F.

Try https://streamable.com

Say my name

Base price wrote: »

The same could be said for https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/47653713
IMO the USA economy is well and able to fund/support those farmers.

Ah in fairness that disaster has been on the Irish news and radio every day with some commentator or other.

The second point about the U.S. probably has a part to do with the lack of coverage.
But being rural news and not affecting California or New York where the majority of ex pat Irish reside and work probably has a bigger part.
Wildfires in California or blizzards in New York get more coverage here.

Base price

Love is - when your youngest arrives home at 11pm unexpectedly from a survey and has two bags of washing to be done and dried before he heads to the airport for a 8am flight.

Happy Mothers day to all us mammies.

Grueller

Just in the door here. 2nd calver just calved. She broke the blister at 10 o clock. No progress at 11:30. Hand in and felt calf fully on its back. Left her until 12:30 to see would he turn. Tonight 12:30 became 1:30 cos of the change of clocks with no progressand then I rang the vet. He arrived at 2. He got the calf presented properly but no way were the shoulders going to come so in through the side.
Calf fed now and mammy licking him so all good. Despite a section being dear it is still cheaper than a dead calf and a heifer down.

TITANIUM.

Grueller wrote: »

Just in the door here. 2nd calver just calved. She broke the blister at 10 o clock. No progress at 11:30. Hand in and felt calf fully on its back. Left her until 12:30 to see would he turn. Tonight 12:30 became 1:30 cos of the change of clocks with no progressand then I rang the vet. He arrived at 2. He got the calf presented properly but no way were the shoulders going to come so in through the side.
Calf fed now and mammy licking him so all good. Despite a section being dear it is still cheaper than a dead calf and a heifer down.

ya, What's a section these days. 300 euro by the time you have all the medicines paid for. pricey but alternative have you. so long as cow and calf are good you'll see some return on her rather that then plow on and have a ****show on your hands this morning!

einn32

Say my name wrote: »

Only for social media. There wouldn't be a clue known about it on this side of the world.

https://twitter.com/mjaeger6/status/1111689750988161025?s=20

Millennial farmer has been talking about it on you tube too. Sounds pretty rough going.

Grueller

TITANIUM. wrote: »

ya, What's a section these days. 300 euro by the time you have all the medicines paid for. pricey but alternative have you. so long as cow and calf are good you'll see some return on her rather that then plow on and have a ****show on your hands this morning!

To be fair to our vet he is €200 for the section. That includes two bottles of pen and strep.

L1985

Ok I’m prob missing something here but v confused. Last week at the mart the difference between CH and Hereford/AA was 60-80c per kilo. AA performed v poorly for heifers and bullocks overall and yesterday was worse.
My confusion is-I’ve never seen CH or Lim beef advertised on a plate. It’s always AA or Hereford. there was always a price gap but the markets insanely bad for them now. And you get the AA bonus on finishing.....so what am I missing??

whelan2

This time changing is a total pain, nearly milking time again....

kk.man

L1985 wrote: »

Ok I’m prob missing something here but v confused. Last week at the mart the difference between CH and Hereford/AA was 60-80c per kilo. AA performed v poorly for heifers and bullocks overall and yesterday was worse.
My confusion is-I’ve never seen CH or Lim beef advertised on a plate. It’s always AA or Hereford. there was always a price gap but the markets insanely bad for them now. And you get the AA bonus on finishing.....so what am I missing??

The aa and he are not coming into weights for the finisher.

Genghis Cant

A national title for Mayo footballers. Maybe this is the first step in a great journey for 2019!

Mooooo

Genghis Cant wrote: »

A national title for Mayo footballers. Maybe this is the first step in a great journey for 2019!

No no, Corks year definitely....

zetecescort

Mooooo wrote: »

No no, Corks year definitely....

yeah, we're creating the ultimate rope a dope!

mayota

Hon Mayo!

whelan2

mayota wrote: »

Hon Mayo!

Hon Liverpool..

Say my name

kk.man wrote: »

The aa and he are not coming into weights for the finisher.

But just perfect for the processor.

L1985

But some of them were 600+kilos! And again I was always under the impression that it’s AA Beef that’s heavily marketed. So that close to finishing then surely there shouldn’t be that much of a difference?

wrangler

L1985 wrote: »

But some of them were 600+kilos! And again I was always under the impression that it’s AA Beef that’s heavily marketed. So that close to finishing then surely there shouldn’t be that much of a difference?

close to finish might be the problem, isn't there a minimum time on the last farm to get QA and bonuses

Say my name

L1985 wrote: »

But some of them were 600+kilos! And again I was always under the impression that it’s AA Beef that’s heavily marketed. So that close to finishing then surely there shouldn’t be that much of a difference?

It's the grid system.

The grid system favours lean double muscled continental bullocks in this country.
The factories don't care because they'll still get the high numbers of aax and hex from the dairy herd for the premium markets regardless of paying an inferior price compared to the continentals.

It keeps the traditional west of Ireland continental suckler farmers kind of happy too.

The farmer is being hugely misled on what quality beef is supposed to be.

It's a world where the epitome of quality beef such as Dexter or wagyu would only make 600 in the factory for the farmer under the current grid but as a retail product sells for many times the price of continental beef.

It's occurring because it can be got away with.

L1985

Thanks say my name. It just doesn’t seem to make sense to me and I’d love to see the maths fully worked out on it!! Then again I saw BBx Calves going for 300. And the same type of weanings going for 550.That’s with 12-16 months feeding! Doesn’t work out in my head anyway!!

Water John

I think it was Myrtle Allen coined the saying, 'Continental for stewing and He and AA for roasting.'

Reggie.

whelan2 wrote: »

This time changing is a total pain, nearly milking time again....

Ah suck it up

emaherx

whelan2 wrote: »

This time changing is a total pain, nearly milking time again....

But sure isn't there a grand stretch.

whelan2

emaherx wrote: »

But sure isn't there a grand stretch.

Went to lidl after tea. Arrived back and there's the youngest lad who has been dosed for the last few days out in the garden being Salah in his t shirt and shorts while he thought mammy was away. It was cold at this stage. He got some fright when I thundered into the garden

Birdnuts

whelan2 wrote: »

Hon Liverpool..

As a pool fan with Mayo connections I certainly enjoyed 2day:D

mayota

whelan2 wrote: »

Hon Liverpool..

Dare to dream

whelan2

mayota wrote: »

Dare to dream

Heading to a game in a few weeks, can't wait. I think I'm more excited than the young lad

Reggie.

The children have arrived

keepalive213

Sim X bull calves, 2 weeks old and fed on cows milk until now.
Changing to milk replacer.
Big square greedy calves.
How many litres each?
Ballpark figure

Edit - twice a day feeding

_Brian

keepalive213 wrote: »

Sim X bull calves, 2 weeks old and fed on cows milk until now.
Changing to milk replacer.
Big square greedy calves.
How many litres each?
Ballpark figure

Edit - twice a day feeding

I would still be inclined to follow the instructions, tue priority is getting them onto ration not stuffing them with milk.

keepalive213

The reason I ask is because I don't want to 'stuff them' with milk replacer , the normal amount is fine.
The directions are in grams per litre, not litres per calf. Thanks for your 'help'

_Brian

keepalive213 wrote: »

The reason I ask is because I don't want to 'stuff them' with milk replacer , the normal amount is fine.
The directions are in grams per litre, not litres per calf. Thanks for your 'help'

Ahh here
Follow the instructions on the bag. It will say how much powder to add to make up x amount of milk per calf.

Rearing calves on a bucket is different, your not replacing cows milk per volume, you absolutely must get them onto concentrates soon as possible. If you feed them full with milk same as they are sucking a cow then they will have little interest in ration.

Follow the instructions.
The instructions aren’t all the same.

Bass Reeves

L1985 wrote: »

But some of them were 600+kilos! And again I was always under the impression that it’s AA Beef that’s heavily marketed. So that close to finishing then surely there shouldn’t be that much of a difference?

Weight gain is a huge issue with AA's. Between now and mid June an AA might only gain 60-80kgs while other bullocks could gain double that. As other said there is also a perception with big ass syndrome and equating a big bullock with a bit hind quarter as a quality product.

keepalive213

_Brian wrote: »

Ahh here
Follow the instructions on the bag. It will say how much powder to add to make up x amount of milk per calf.

At the risk of repeating myself the instructions are in grams of powder per litre of water, not per animal.
Anyone?

KatyMac

keepalive213 wrote: »

At the risk of repeating myself the instructions are in grams of powder per litre of water, not per animal.
Anyone?

You give 6 Litres of the made up milk replacer in 2 feeds, therefore, 3 litres per feed made up to whatever grams of powder goes into a litre of water.

_Brian

KatyMac wrote: »

You give 6 Litres of the made up milk replacer in 2 feeds, therefore, 3 litres per feed made up to whatever grams of powder goes into a litre of water.

This is the thing.
I’ve seen 2l, 2.5l amd 3l at each feed depending on brands. Same for grams of powder per litre.

I’m surprised that not all brands give specifics for feed volumes and concentration per litre.

whelan2

Reggie. wrote: »

The children have arrived

I'd say there's some noise there this morning

keepalive213

_Brian wrote: »

This is the thing.
I’ve seen 2l, 2.5l amd 3l at each feed depending on brands. Same for grams of powder per litre.

I’m surprised that not all brands give specifics for feed volumes and concentration per litre.

Per average calf it turns out that you should feed up to 750 gm of good quality milk replacer. Split over two feeds.
You'll know for again.

Reggie.

whelan2 wrote: »

I'd say there's some noise there this morning

There was and for the first time ever we had an escapee. Bloody Louth cattle